EPTOn August 20 2016 01:08 Tictock wrote:
In the end though it's the age old saying, "Buyer beware"
In the end though it's the age old saying, "Buyer beware"
Also "a fool and his money are soon parted"
No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) - Page 17
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
Also "a fool and his money are soon parted" | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
On August 20 2016 08:13 Plansix wrote: I love you too Bo1. Every time I see you in a thread, I know its going to be a little love letter to me. I really appreciate your attention. I think everyone agrees that the the developers were deceitful in some ways. Plansix agreed, he just said it wasn't fraud which it clearly wasn't. It's just not what you want to hear because people feel like they need to go on some crusade about something so minuscule to fill the empty void in their life. Saying it was clearly fraud is taking things ridiculously far. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On August 20 2016 08:13 Plansix wrote: I love you too Bo1. Every time I see you in a thread, I know its going to be a little love letter to me. I really appreciate your attention. C'mon Plansix, you do this on pretty much every shitgame. I don't know if you do it because you believe it will ease the pain (i hope), on purpose to annoy people, or you just enjoy to be a useful idiot for these companies. Like really, do you really think this industry is so tiny that companies don't use marketing schemes if able to like you were pretending to pages back until you changed your stance? People are being ridiculous about fraud or jail time ? Sure they are, they are angry because they were lied to. Let them vent, where is the harm ? A company that lied to its customers getting shat on ? So be it, they deserve the flak and therefore the loss on customer's trust. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On August 20 2016 10:30 Godwrath wrote: People are being ridiculous about fraud or jail time ? Sure they are, they are angry because they were lied to. Let them vent, where is the harm ? Sure, that's what forums are for. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
To inform and discuss, which can end up on a vast majority of the forumites and lurkers sharing the opinion that Hello Games is a shitty company ? Yes. But you forgot to add in your quote the following part of my post, which already answered you. Or do you disagree and think that what the company did was correct ? | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 20 2016 10:30 Godwrath wrote: C'mon Plansix, you do this on pretty much every shitgame. I don't know if you do it because you believe it will ease the pain (i hope), on purpose to annoy people, or you just enjoy to be a useful idiot for these companies. Like really, do you really think this industry is so tiny that companies don't use marketing schemes if able to like you were pretending to? People are being ridiculous about fraud or jail time ? Sure they are, they are angry because they were lied to. Let them vent, where is the harm ? A company that lied to its customers getting shat on ? So be it, they deserve the flak and therefore the loss on customer's trust. Plansix has less spine then a snail, of course he can't help but remind everyone how charming the gameplay of User was warned for this post | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On August 20 2016 12:08 SolaR- wrote: I'm actually enjoying no man sky. Is it worth 60 bucks? Probably not. Well, if you are enjoying it, i would say they were worth it. Don't overthink it  | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On August 20 2016 08:07 Duka08 wrote: Meanwhile people that are calling out Hello Games and arguing with other TLers are excited about Star Citizen in that thread lol I'd say "carefully" excited ;D. On August 20 2016 10:30 Godwrath wrote: C'mon Plansix, you do this on pretty much every shitgame. I don't know if you do it because you believe it will ease the pain (i hope), on purpose to annoy people, or you just enjoy to be a useful idiot for these companies. Like really, do you really think this industry is so tiny that companies don't use marketing schemes if able to like you were pretending to pages back until you changed your stance? People are being ridiculous about fraud or jail time ? Sure they are, they are angry because they were lied to. Let them vent, where is the harm ? A company that lied to its customers getting shat on ? So be it, they deserve the flak and therefore the loss on customer's trust. I just think Plansix likes being right on the Internet. He sees a bunch of angry gamers using big legal terms like "fraud" and calling for devs to be beheaded, and what a tasty Internet argument that would make for. But he'll ignore the more reasonable opinions because there is no fun in reaching a consensus. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But mostly I see it as people who were excited for the game, but found it out it was a let down and didn't live up to their hopes. But they express that disappointment by being angry that that other people has purchased and are enjoying that same game. Or people who just like to dog pile on or vent all their disappointment in past games into this one. Everyone loves some drama or to watch something crash and burn. I have no problem calling out shit games that launched as shit. Arkham knight was a nightmare and the publisher, WB games, should have been slapped around a bit for releasing it in that state. I will have to see how Hello Games does, but it sound like they want to make good on some of those promises. | ||
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KrOmander
United Kingdom78 Posts
On August 20 2016 20:25 ZenithM wrote: I'd say "carefully" excited ;D. I just think Plansix likes being right on the Internet. He sees a bunch of angry gamers using big legal terms like "fraud" and calling for devs to be beheaded, and what a tasty Internet argument that would make for. But he'll ignore the more reasonable opinions because there is no fun in reaching a consensus. I honestly just think he is a troll, and not a particularly entertaining one at that. Sadly TL doesn't seem to have an ignore feature (?) for annoying posters so this section almost gets ruined for me. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 20 2016 22:09 Plansix wrote: Consensus is overrated, understanding others views is where it is at. I enjoy the game and find people getting super pissed about a game they did not buy to be sort of comical. I have openly expressed that Hello games fucked up, dropped the ball and released a game in a state that did not live up to their promises. But because I do not do it with the level of aggression and demanded for punishment that others do, I am seen as a shill. I cannot both enjoy the game and be slightly disappoint. I can express disapproval of Hello Games action, but also be understanding as to how it happened. Its binary, us vs them options on the internet and you are a shill if you don't have those. But mostly I see it as people who were excited for the game, but found it out it was a let down and didn't live up to their hopes. But they express that disappointment by being angry that that other people has purchased and are enjoying that same game. Or people who just like to dog pile on or vent all their disappointment in past games into this one. Everyone loves some drama or to watch something crash and burn. I have no problem calling out shit games that launched as shit. Arkham knight was a nightmare and the publisher, WB games, should have been slapped around a bit for releasing it in that state. I will have to see how Hello Games does, but it sound like they want to make good on some of those promises. Your indecisiveness to ever have an opinion doesn't make you look intelligent. | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On August 20 2016 22:10 KrOmander wrote: I honestly just think he is a troll, and not a particularly entertaining one at that. Sadly TL doesn't seem to have an ignore feature (?) for annoying posters so this section almost gets ruined for me. there was a script for greasemonkey and TL around somewhere iirc. Imo dont take everythink too seriously, in RL you also cant block people (you can get pretty close by telling them you dont want to deal with them in their face, but thats kinda socially retarded) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 20 2016 22:38 bo1b wrote: Your indecisiveness to ever have an opinion doesn't make you look intelligent. It sure beats your constant need for personal attacks over any form of discussion or nuanced opinion. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
You might want to ask your self why you're being victimised here. Do you feel you got good value out of the last AAA game, do you still play protoss, do you think that collecting cabbages in Skyrim is a justifiable answer to gutting all the depth in the series, are the fallout 4 dialogue choices really a good addition to the game, do you think that Hello World has acquitted themselves of lying through their teeth about the games features? Perhaps after years of seeing you hold not a single opinion which goes with or against the grain, or is in fact a deviation from a meaningless platitude apologising for the frankly sorry state of affairs that's befallen the video game industry, people might start noticing trends. I guess victim blaming is acceptable when people have the temerity to pre-order a game and support an up and coming developer. They should instead be soul less insipid robots who through the no doubt vigorous education they undertook, understand the difference between fraud and what occurred here. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On August 20 2016 22:10 KrOmander wrote: I honestly just think he is a troll, and not a particularly entertaining one at that. Sadly TL doesn't seem to have an ignore feature (?) for annoying posters so this section almost gets ruined for me. Agreed. On August 20 2016 23:30 bo1b wrote: What nuanced opinion? Taking an extreme argument and then juxtaposing it with a nice, genial reply that lacks all substance surely isn't an opinion worth having. You might want to ask your self why you're being victimised here. Do you feel you got good value out of the last AAA game, do you still play protoss, do you think that collecting cabbages in Skyrim is a justifiable answer to gutting all the depth in the series, are the fallout 4 dialogue choices really a good addition to the game, do you think that Hello World has acquitted themselves of lying through their teeth about the games features? Perhaps after years of seeing you hold not a single opinion which goes with or against the grain, or is in fact a deviation from a meaningless platitude apologising for the frankly sorry state of affairs that's befallen the video game industry, people might start noticing trends. I guess victim blaming is acceptable when people have the temerity to pre-order a game and support an up and coming developer. They should instead be soul less insipid robots who through the no doubt vigorous education they undertook, understand the difference between fraud and what occurred here. My god man you summed up Plansix quite nice. Him not ever having an opinion is spot on. For me he is by far the most anoying poster on TL and mostly because how he always talks down on people. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On August 20 2016 01:51 Plansix wrote: Once again, what would you like to happen? People can be angry. That is fine and totally acceptable. But what are people looking for? Does Shaun Murray need to go to jail for lying to video game fans? Does Hello Games need to be destroyed for the good of video games and to teach all these developers a lesson? The should get sued. In Croatia they would get sued by "Agencija za zastitu trzisnog natjecanja"' or a free market protection agency, which is an exact translation giving that I dont know what is the equivalent for that governmental body in the US. It's basically an agency that protects consumer rights. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On August 20 2016 23:55 NukeD wrote: The should get sued. In Croatia they would get sued by "Agencija za zastitu trzisnog natjecanja"' or a free market protection agency, which is an exact translation giving that I dont know what is the equivalent for that governmental body in the US. It's basically an agency that protects consumer rights. the federal trade commission | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
On August 20 2016 23:30 bo1b wrote: Perhaps after years of seeing you hold not a single opinion which goes with or against the grain, or is in fact a deviation from a meaningless platitude apologising for the frankly sorry state of affairs that's befallen the video game industry, people might start noticing trends. I guess victim blaming is acceptable when people have the temerity to pre-order a game and support an up and coming developer. They should instead be soul less insipid robots who through the no doubt vigorous education they undertook, understand the difference between fraud and what occurred here. the video games industry and the people who run it partake in the same level of overall dishonesty they did 35+ years ago. things are not getting worse. there are lots of people who will bullshit in exchange for more money in every industry. including the video game industry. Because the industry has grown by leaps and bounds the dishonesty is merely larger in #s because the pie is bigger. The rate of dishonesty is the same. i'd say the bullshitters are more skilled and calculated than ever before because there is more money at stake. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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