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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-05 18:57:15
June 05 2016 18:52 GMT
#41
Arena 4 is a huge fucking powerspike. As an arena 3 player who is on the edge of promotion, I have to defend hogfreezes and hit towers on regular minions + minion horde with... giants and loons and witches and valks and shit?

From what I saw&heard, hogfreeze is a bitch to defend against on any given arena level and I'm trying to defend against that shit with like... 8 out of 20 cards? Yeah, that shit is definitely going to work out.

Can you suggest me a deck out of:
- Spear Goblins at 5
- Knight at 6
- Muskateer at 3
- Valk at 4
- Barbs at 5
- Loon at 1
- Witch at 2
- Bomb Tower at 3

- Archers at 5
- Regular goblins at 5
- Bomber at 5
- Giant at 3
- Mini Pekka at 3
- Goblin hut at 3
- Arrow Spell at 5
- Fireball at 3
- Regular minions at 5
- 1 elixir skeletons at 5
- Tombstone at 2
- Cannon at 5
- Barb hut at 3
- Rocket at 2

That has slightest of chances against arena 4 shit? Thanks in advance.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
June 06 2016 15:02 GMT
#42
At A4 literally anything work so just run your highest level shit and do some normal counterpush deck

spears, knight, barbs, fireball, arrows, giant, valk, archers

ultra simple - defend normally and just do counterpushes with a giant
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
June 06 2016 15:44 GMT
#43
Oh never saw this thread before... A7 almost A8 (I picked at 2936 no later than 2hours ago :D) all that in f2p. Got a princess this morning, first leg after playing this game since the start and almost perfect timing in opening of my chests (and crowned one opened every day needless to say)...

I have a lvl 6 account in A4, running Giant Bloon, at this rank people have a hard time to counter it. I guess any hog cycle should stomp there too (though you dont have zap I guess).

Depending on your lvl ur valk maybe useless so be careful with that (cant kill barbs for example if they too high). In my giant bloon I have a bomb tower to def, arrows FB (must have in A4 as people like to swarm there). Gobs spears skels to cycle and swarm behind a giant when they wasted AOE. Don't forget all the pull tricks in def with skels/gobs, all ppl overlook them in A4 and u can get pekkas for free like this (4 skels with tower help will rekt a mini pekka and that's a +3 elixir trade for u, hooray!).
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
June 06 2016 19:13 GMT
#44
Congratulations on picking up the best card in the game LMAO

giant bloon is kind of a gimmick really, any deck that doesn't make huge mistakes kind of just runs it over. But most people on ladder are kind of bad and makes mistakes so it's good for that reason

so yeah, giant bloon is probably fine if you just wanna rank up and have fun and don't care about being optimal haha
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 19:24:41
June 06 2016 19:21 GMT
#45
I tried giant loon. It's not even a gimmick, it's just... pathetic. It can't defend shit. Not even the simplest hitsquad of one knight and 2 elixir worth of spear goblins.

On June 07 2016 00:02 BrTarolg wrote:
At A4 literally anything work so just run your highest level shit and do some normal counterpush deck

spears, knight, barbs, fireball, arrows, giant, valk, archers

ultra simple - defend normally and just do counterpushes with a giant

Tried this too. This shit gets rammed on a very regular basis by one baby drake with a body in front of it.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 06 2016 19:41 GMT
#46
Recently broke 2k, A7 now with:

Cannon
Mini Pekka
Spear Goblins
Arrows
Barbarians
Witch
Hog Rider
Giant

AEC: 3.9

Been playing really well, only losing due to dumb mistakes, but if I play well, I generally win with one crown or all three. Beaten Miners, and IW, haven't fought an ice princess yet, and I hope not too. I will probably be messing with my deck later in the ranks. Just got a Royal Giant, so that will definitely help once I have him leveled.
Life?
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
June 06 2016 19:56 GMT
#47
On June 07 2016 04:21 Djagulingu wrote:
I tried giant loon. It's not even a gimmick, it's just... pathetic. It can't defend shit. Not even the simplest hitsquad of one knight and 2 elixir worth of spear goblins.

Gonna be rude but imo u should learn to def before blaming decks.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 20:29:41
June 06 2016 20:27 GMT
#48
Been f2p for a couple of months now and was lucky enough to pick up a Sparky a couple of weeks ago. Peaked at 2750 so far with:

Giant (6) Elixir (6) Goblins (8) Archers (8) Zap (8) Fire Spirits (8) Sparky (1) Baby Dragon (2). Think I can get further but I don't mass game that often.

The weakness is anything with an inferno tower which usually beats me quite hard, experimenting with putting Sparky at the front for those types of decks.Sparky v Sparky is pretty fun trying to get yours to blow the other guy's up first.

My best epic is lvl 3 which is Prince but I really can't get an effective deck for him. My favourite card is the Witch but only lvl 2 and ditto.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Capresis
Profile Joined September 2008
United States518 Posts
June 06 2016 22:04 GMT
#49
You people that have played f2p for months, what do you recommend we do with gems?
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
June 06 2016 22:17 GMT
#50
I think saving up 500 for 10k gold is considered the best option?
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5015 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 22:29:23
June 06 2016 22:28 GMT
#51
Im level 9 (just got lvl 9)
Balloonman on CR
Lucky to get one Legendary a sparky!!

I tend to play decks I have fun with weird combos so I drop sometimes down to 1700 and get up to 2100...

I have fun and play F2P I also spend my gems all the time on stupid unlocking chest faster....Its not ideal but I wanna see!!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 22:44:48
June 06 2016 22:40 GMT
#52
This is a fun little game. Just made arena 4. What's a good counter to the big skeleton with a bomb? I find it really hard to trade for equal elixer let alone beat him

Or versus spawning huts? Usually I just highly pressure the other side but it doesn't always work out if they have enough low cost distraction fodder
Neosteel Enthusiast
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 07 2016 00:16 GMT
#53
On June 07 2016 07:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This is a fun little game. Just made arena 4. What's a good counter to the big skeleton with a bomb? I find it really hard to trade for equal elixer let alone beat him

Or versus spawning huts? Usually I just highly pressure the other side but it doesn't always work out if they have enough low cost distraction fodder

Best counter to the big skeleton is distracting him or placing strong guys behind him so they have time to get away before being blown up. If you place stuff in front you'll lose most of it.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
June 07 2016 00:33 GMT
#54
On June 07 2016 04:21 Djagulingu wrote:
I tried giant loon. It's not even a gimmick, it's just... pathetic. It can't defend shit. Not even the simplest hitsquad of one knight and 2 elixir worth of spear goblins.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 00:02 BrTarolg wrote:
At A4 literally anything work so just run your highest level shit and do some normal counterpush deck

spears, knight, barbs, fireball, arrows, giant, valk, archers

ultra simple - defend normally and just do counterpushes with a giant

Tried this too. This shit gets rammed on a very regular basis by one baby drake with a body in front of it.



what how lol. you literally have a hard counter to dragon in your deck (giant + archers) which should be the main component of every counterpush you do

it sounds like you're making a lot of misplays and not playing giant counterpush decks correctly

you can always watch jason videos or just oldschool videos to learn how to play properly
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 01:25:03
June 07 2016 01:14 GMT
#55
Haha I play this. Im level 8 now and around 2100 trophies. And in Arena 7
AKMU / IU
ddengster
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore129 Posts
June 07 2016 04:52 GMT
#56
On June 07 2016 09:16 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 07:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This is a fun little game. Just made arena 4. What's a good counter to the big skeleton with a bomb? I find it really hard to trade for equal elixer let alone beat him

Or versus spawning huts? Usually I just highly pressure the other side but it doesn't always work out if they have enough low cost distraction fodder

Best counter to the big skeleton is distracting him or placing strong guys behind him so they have time to get away before being blown up. If you place stuff in front you'll lose most of it.


alternatively, play the kiting game. drop buildings for distraction since the giant skeleton only goes for those; the bomb that he drops when he dies can thus be exploded away from your tower.
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Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 07:17:35
June 07 2016 07:17 GMT
#57
On June 07 2016 13:52 ddengster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 09:16 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This is a fun little game. Just made arena 4. What's a good counter to the big skeleton with a bomb? I find it really hard to trade for equal elixer let alone beat him

Or versus spawning huts? Usually I just highly pressure the other side but it doesn't always work out if they have enough low cost distraction fodder

Best counter to the big skeleton is distracting him or placing strong guys behind him so they have time to get away before being blown up. If you place stuff in front you'll lose most of it.


alternatively, play the kiting game. drop buildings for distraction since the giant skeleton only goes for those; the bomb that he drops when he dies can thus be exploded away from your tower.


The giant skeletons doesnt go for building first and that's why it is easy to distract it. U can use the 1 elixir skel to pull it in middle of your towers and let the towers do the job. Same strat with big Pekka for example. You need buildings for giants and royal giants (bloons too).
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
June 07 2016 07:19 GMT
#58
On June 07 2016 09:33 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 04:21 Djagulingu wrote:
I tried giant loon. It's not even a gimmick, it's just... pathetic. It can't defend shit. Not even the simplest hitsquad of one knight and 2 elixir worth of spear goblins.

On June 07 2016 00:02 BrTarolg wrote:
At A4 literally anything work so just run your highest level shit and do some normal counterpush deck

spears, knight, barbs, fireball, arrows, giant, valk, archers

ultra simple - defend normally and just do counterpushes with a giant

Tried this too. This shit gets rammed on a very regular basis by one baby drake with a body in front of it.



what how lol. you literally have a hard counter to dragon in your deck (giant + archers) which should be the main component of every counterpush you do

And to add to this: baby drake has no DPS, getting rekt by tank+baby drake sounds like hmm, let's say really weird
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 07 2016 07:46 GMT
#59
I enjoy using rockets, huge ass damage on towers and you can hit tower + unit. currently Level 7 Rocket now, and hoping to Level 2 my Ice wizard
AKMU / IU
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
June 07 2016 13:38 GMT
#60
Also playing F2P. I've been trying a few things:
I have one that's:
Hog 4
Barb 7
Archer 7
Fireball 4
Baby Drake 2
Cannon 6
Spear Goblin 7
Lightning 2

That seems to do okay


I've also tried a spawning deck:
Spear Goblin 7
Skeleton Army 2
Barb Hut 4
Spear Hut 4
Minions 6
Minion Hoarde 7
Barb 7
Arrow 7

That one does okay against decks that don't just have a "Fuck you here's a push" in them.

I'm interested in how best to climb here. I'm in A4, and climbing is pretty slow. Is it just a grind of lots of games?
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