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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 20:27:45
April 03 2017 20:27 GMT
#1941
EDIT: Better done through PMs.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 03 2017 23:06 GMT
#1942
I got 2x Spring Xander and a 5* Ephriam from one summoning. It directly followed a 5x 3* summoning.

I guess that's how bad luck prevention works.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 14:05:53
April 04 2017 03:36 GMT
#1943
On April 04 2017 08:06 deth2munkies wrote:
I got 2x Spring Xander and a 5* Ephriam from one summoning. It directly followed a 5x 3* summoning.

I guess that's how bad luck prevention works.

I heard that the pity % stays while ur in the summoning session, so if u have something high like 3.75% and u open a 5star, opening the rest of the orbs also uses that 3.75 so theres a slightly better chance or hitting multiple 5stars if u had a high pity while opening everything

For the navarre GHB, really annoyed about the people who are like
"here's my 4 5stars heroes, like lucina, effie/hector, azure or Kagero. Map was SUPER easy...."
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 04 2017 15:38 GMT
#1944
Dammit now with a 4th hero focus I REALLY don't know what to roll lol. I might go hard for an Effie. I pulled a 4* Camilla (normal) randomly the other day just before the wyvern riders went up. That was going to be my dump originally but now it seems less useful.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 21:44:04
April 04 2017 21:42 GMT
#1945
I spent my 20 orbs on the Navarre set. Didn't get any of the focus heroes, but I did pick up 5* Jaffar. That brings my total 5* lineup to 9 with 20k feathers for whichever 4* I decide to use it on. Not too bad considering I'm basically going f2p (bought one extra round of summons early on right before the siblings banner ended and got nothing for it).

Also, the Navarre fight feels more challenging, I think I basically just won it by the luck of having characters who could barely survive some dicey attacks (I think Marth had 1 hp and Nowi had 4 at the end). Those AI ninjas are hardcore.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 22:02:29
April 04 2017 21:47 GMT
#1946
Navarre fight feels like exploitable than previous ones and more just about having big enough bodies to throw at the problem.

I'm currently leveling up a Death Blow + Drag Back Cordelia & Draw Back Hinoka (who has Swordbreaker 2 because it came with draw back). I'm really excited to get the combo to 40 and into the arena.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 23:03:30
April 04 2017 23:03 GMT
#1947
Navarre is easy if you have a hector because he can kill the 2 thieves very easily and all you need is someone that can 1 round Navarre (Effie or a Brave Lance flier) and someone that can deal with the axe user + cleric (any sword user).

Without that...eh...
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 04 2017 23:06 GMT
#1948
There is a Pegasus Knight that can dance?

that sounds pretty broken lol.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 00:01:02
April 05 2017 00:00 GMT
#1949
On April 05 2017 08:06 Kipsate wrote:
There is a Pegasus Knight that can dance?

that sounds pretty broken lol.

Assuming you're referring to the Echoes discussion from last page, Faye is a villager--she can reclass to either Peg Knight or to Cleric, so she can't simultaneously fly and have access to the Again spell.

Also, everything wrong with Gaiden is still wrong with this game lol. They made everything amazing except the gameplay, and the gameplay still sucks (and was arguably made worse with stuff like the Warp and Falcoknight nerfs).
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
April 05 2017 00:35 GMT
#1950
On April 05 2017 09:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2017 08:06 Kipsate wrote:
There is a Pegasus Knight that can dance?

that sounds pretty broken lol.

Assuming you're referring to the Echoes discussion from last page, Faye is a villager--she can reclass to either Peg Knight or to Cleric, so she can't simultaneously fly and have access to the Again spell.

Also, everything wrong with Gaiden is still wrong with this game lol. They made everything amazing except the gameplay, and the gameplay still sucks (and was arguably made worse with stuff like the Warp and Falcoknight nerfs).

seriously, the art, music, voice acting, ui, literally everything except map design is top tier. I just started Chapter 3, so maybe they have some better maps I haven't seen, but I doubt it
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
April 05 2017 00:47 GMT
#1951
On April 05 2017 09:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2017 09:00 TheYango wrote:
On April 05 2017 08:06 Kipsate wrote:
There is a Pegasus Knight that can dance?

that sounds pretty broken lol.

Assuming you're referring to the Echoes discussion from last page, Faye is a villager--she can reclass to either Peg Knight or to Cleric, so she can't simultaneously fly and have access to the Again spell.

Also, everything wrong with Gaiden is still wrong with this game lol. They made everything amazing except the gameplay, and the gameplay still sucks (and was arguably made worse with stuff like the Warp and Falcoknight nerfs).

seriously, the art, music, voice acting, ui, literally everything except map design is top tier. I just started Chapter 3, so maybe they have some better maps I haven't seen, but I doubt it

How does the gameplay feel? What difficulty are you playing on?

Yango has been telling me horror stories so I'm looking for another opinion.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 05 2017 01:18 GMT
#1952
On April 05 2017 09:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
seriously, the art, music, voice acting, ui, literally everything except map design is top tier. I just started Chapter 3, so maybe they have some better maps I haven't seen, but I doubt it

It's not just the map design, it's also the enemy bulk and annoying hitrates that make things more of a slog than necessary.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 02:28:21
April 05 2017 02:25 GMT
#1953
On April 05 2017 09:47 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2017 09:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 05 2017 09:00 TheYango wrote:
On April 05 2017 08:06 Kipsate wrote:
There is a Pegasus Knight that can dance?

that sounds pretty broken lol.

Assuming you're referring to the Echoes discussion from last page, Faye is a villager--she can reclass to either Peg Knight or to Cleric, so she can't simultaneously fly and have access to the Again spell.

Also, everything wrong with Gaiden is still wrong with this game lol. They made everything amazing except the gameplay, and the gameplay still sucks (and was arguably made worse with stuff like the Warp and Falcoknight nerfs).

seriously, the art, music, voice acting, ui, literally everything except map design is top tier. I just started Chapter 3, so maybe they have some better maps I haven't seen, but I doubt it

How does the gameplay feel? What difficulty are you playing on?

Yango has been telling me horror stories so I'm looking for another opinion.

Considering how easy things are, I *think* I picked Normal Classic. There were admittedly a couple of moments I fucked up like letting Desaix hit me before Slayde rushed in, but Mila's Gear was super useful to fix any mistake I made in those fringe scenarios. Overall it's been pretty easy, but summoners and the damned desert map still exist. It's still a really fun game, but it isn't perfect.
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
April 05 2017 02:26 GMT
#1954
On April 05 2017 10:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2017 09:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
seriously, the art, music, voice acting, ui, literally everything except map design is top tier. I just started Chapter 3, so maybe they have some better maps I haven't seen, but I doubt it

It's not just the map design, it's also the enemy bulk and annoying hitrates that make things more of a slog than necessary.

I'm not sure how much I agree with that, granted I accidentally picked Normal mode so maybe it's significantly easier than hard mode, but the enemy numbers nor hitrates have really been that bad from what I've seen.
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 02:32:06
April 05 2017 02:28 GMT
#1955
Was watching some videos for a normal mode playthrough, the numbers definitely do look a lot more manageable.

I honestly might just do a normal mode playthrough just to experience the story when the game releases, and not bother with higher difficulties. The game looks amazing when it's not such a huge grind to play, it's just that's not all that often.

Also, I'm salty that they nerfed Pegasus Knights and the Warp spell.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 03:18:35
April 05 2017 03:18 GMT
#1956
On April 05 2017 11:28 TheYango wrote:
Was watching some videos for a normal mode playthrough, the numbers definitely do look a lot more manageable.

I honestly might just do a normal mode playthrough just to experience the story when the game releases, and not bother with higher difficulties. The game looks amazing when it's not such a huge grind to play, it's just that's not all that often.

Also, I'm salty that they nerfed Pegasus Knights and the Warp spell.

I, for one, accept our new Pegasus Knight nerfs. I also am okay with Warp spell nerfs.

But how did they nerf Pegasus Knights?

I'm actually okay with this, because it did seem like mounted units were always top of the list as far as unit strength went.

Ideally, all classes would at least fulfill a niche, and not one class would be strictly better than another.

But I'm thinking Normal mode for this game as well.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 03:26:17
April 05 2017 03:23 GMT
#1957
On April 05 2017 11:28 TheYango wrote:
Was watching some videos for a normal mode playthrough, the numbers definitely do look a lot more manageable.

I honestly might just do a normal mode playthrough just to experience the story when the game releases, and not bother with higher difficulties. The game looks amazing when it's not such a huge grind to play, it's just that's not all that often.

Also, I'm salty that they nerfed Pegasus Knights and the Warp spell.

This for sure is a game I want to try to do on higher difficulties with no grind runs, but yes not being able to rush duma turn 1 and the fact I can't let catria and company kill all the things with no effort is disappointing for sure

I can kindof understand warp being nerfed a little, but they went overboard with it

Storywise, I just hope they went full Narcian with Slayde

+ Show Spoiler +
and from what I heard about chapter 6...I hope IS knows what it's doing
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 09:36:26
April 05 2017 06:47 GMT
#1958
On April 05 2017 12:18 Frudgey wrote:
But how did they nerf Pegasus Knights?

Reduced Falcoknight class bases, nerfed Slayer skill to be +10 flat damage to monsters rather than effective damage.

In any other game, it would be fine, it's just Gaiden is such a chore to play that it's to the game's detriment to not have Falcoknights be blatantly OP. It would be like if they "balanced" FE4 by reducing mount movement down to 8 and removed road tile bonuses--yeah you balanced mounts and non-mounts but now you made backtracking across the map even more tedious so if you don't make people do less backtracking, the game sucks even more to play now.

On April 05 2017 12:23 Cricketer12 wrote:
This for sure is a game I want to try to do on higher difficulties with no grind runs, but yes not being able to rush duma turn 1 and the fact I can't let catria and company kill all the things with no effort is disappointing for sure

Being unable to warpskip endgame isn't because of the Warp nerf, it's because you can't suicide people to get them to swap routes like you could in the original Gaiden, so there's no Warp user on Celica's side. OG Gaiden let you revive people from the other route at Mila Shrines so you could suicide Silque from Alm's side and revive her on Celica's side. I'm okay with them removing the route swap trick since that always felt like it was unintended in the first place (then again they kept Nosferatu being able to hurt Duma and that was a bug too).

The Warp nerf sucks because it doesn't actually fix any of the actual warpskips--you still use Warp to put people over walls/rivers/impassable terrain because those don't depend on warp range. It just nerfs open-field warps that you would do to finish routs on huge open fields faster i.e. where you're not actually breaking anything, but just warping to reduce tedium.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18624 Posts
April 05 2017 06:48 GMT
#1959
Did I miss something or how are you playing the game which hasnt been released yet?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 06:50:31
April 05 2017 06:50 GMT
#1960
On April 05 2017 15:48 sharkie wrote:
Did I miss something or how are you playing the game which hasnt been released yet?

JP preload version of the game got leaked so some people are playing it. Modders even had a menu translation patch up and running hours after the leak, which is pretty insane.

There's more info on Serenes, and some people have streamed the game as well.
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