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On March 11 2017 09:06 chocorush wrote:
I'm surprised that there's so much love for Sacred Stones. It was probably the least impressionable of the games, and I haven't finished a run through the DS remakes.
I think it's a good beginner game, since it has decent story and has a feature set that's well-positioned to introduce players to both older and modern FE. I don't think it holds up to a veteran's scrutiny.
The game's 3 biggest flaws (low difficulty, short game length, poor unit balance) aren't things that will adversely affect a new FE player's experience, but for someone who's already played the game once, there isn't a ton to go back for.
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Is there a way to read up on the stories without playing the games? I notice there is a fire emblem anime from 1992, anything newer?
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Sister said she wanted to pull a hero a single one and she pulled 5stat takumi!!!! Omg rofl and i was trying to stop her simmoning lol
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On March 11 2017 13:36 Shock710 wrote:
Is there a way to read up on the stories without playing the games? I notice there is a fire emblem anime from 1992, anything newer?
Serenesforest has transcriptions/translations of the text with varying amounts of completeness.
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On March 11 2017 04:23 Musicus wrote:Looks promising! I'm looking into playing a FE on an emulator, which one is a good one to start? Show nested quote +On March 11 2017 01:19 Shock710 wrote:
What lvl and stars were your heros, my camilla is only 4 stars so im warry training her
If you summon a hero then quit the summon do u still get the bonus of 0.25% for a 5star, if so wouldnt just quiting after every summon be better in gettings a 5star cause you can raise the % by much more, or does the game wait for you to summon 5 heros (with no 5stars) before increasing the % rate The game waits until you summoned 5 heroes. I pulled two times on the lucina banner, both times with 10 orbs for 2 red heroes. The percentage did not increased between the first and second pull. My heroes were all lvl 40 5* heroes. Should be doable with a 4* Camilla though, she literally took 2 damage from Ursula.
on lunatic atm, 4star camilla cant take out the ninja at the top and gets hit with return fire on the next turn  what do i do?
checking my camilla at lvl 1 5star she has 13 attack...the iv calculators dont even let me pick an attack that low...my camilla is shit isnt she forgot to include the weapon turns out shes netural
but still having trouble with the lunatic map, i wokred out that i can kill the ninja if i move erika across to tank a ninja hit and give camilla +3 attack
however then comes the problem of killing the red knight that comes up, nino cant touch him, enither can camilla and erika dies in the fight....sigh
spend all day getting camilla up to lvl 40 thinking it would work...now i have one day left to do this. Should i train up subaki to lvl 38~ in hopes he can tank the ninja and kill the red knight...but than without camilla getting erikas bonus she cant kill the top ninja omg.....
i have shanna, sully both at lvl 25 so it should be easier to get to a high lvl, while my 2 star subaki is only lvl 2, can i make do with sully?
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On March 12 2017 01:05 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2017 04:23 Musicus wrote:Looks promising! I'm looking into playing a FE on an emulator, which one is a good one to start? On March 11 2017 01:19 Shock710 wrote:
What lvl and stars were your heros, my camilla is only 4 stars so im warry training her
If you summon a hero then quit the summon do u still get the bonus of 0.25% for a 5star, if so wouldnt just quiting after every summon be better in gettings a 5star cause you can raise the % by much more, or does the game wait for you to summon 5 heros (with no 5stars) before increasing the % rate The game waits until you summoned 5 heroes. I pulled two times on the lucina banner, both times with 10 orbs for 2 red heroes. The percentage did not increased between the first and second pull. My heroes were all lvl 40 5* heroes. Should be doable with a 4* Camilla though, she literally took 2 damage from Ursula. on lunatic atm, 4star camilla cant take out the ninja at the top and gets hit with return fire on the next turn what do i do? checking my camilla at lvl 1 5star she has 13 attack...the iv calculators dont even let me pick an attack that low...my camilla is shit isnt she forgot to include the weapon turns out shes netural but still having trouble with the lunatic map, i wokred out that i can kill the ninja if i move erika across to tank a ninja hit and give camilla +3 attack however then comes the problem of killing the red knight that comes up, nino cant touch him, enither can camilla and erika dies in the fight....sigh spend all day getting camilla up to lvl 40 thinking it would work...now i have one day left to do this. Should i train up subaki to lvl 38~ in hopes he can tank the ninja and kill the red knight...but than without camilla getting erikas bonus she cant kill the top ninja omg..... i have shanna, sully both at lvl 25 so it should be easier to get to a high lvl, while my 2 star subaki is only lvl 2, can i make do with sully?
I think Sully could work, any unit that you can move into the gap and won't die to that red or the ninja in one round basically. Can't say for sure though. My Catria was great for this and I saw people do it with Cordelia and Abel. Nowi could work maybe? Not sure if that Ninja kills her or not. Any flying or cavalry unit that deals with the red unit will be good for you and should replace Eirika.
Thanks to everybody for the input on which game to start with. I think I'm going with Path of Radiance for now.
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So I made the guide more clear and added pictures, hope it helps. Catria and Tharja can be replaced by any unit that can do the job.
Clearing Ursula with Camilla + Olivia + random Mage + random blue close combat non infantry unit step by step for Shock710:
Turn 1:
You start like this + Show Spoiler +
Then you move you Camilla forward and Catria (Sully or what you replaced her with) down and end the turn like this + Show Spoiler +
Turn 2:
You start like this + Show Spoiler +
Now you kill the armor knight with your mage and dance from Olivia, then you kill the Ninja with Camilla. Camilla will kill the Ninja for sure, since she tanked Ursula's attack and her special will activate during her attack. No attack buffs needed. You end the turn like this + Show Spoiler +
Keep your Catria/Sully where it is to bait in Ursula!
Turn 3:
Your start like this + Show Spoiler +
You will have tanked an attack from Ursula. If even Tharja with 20 res and being red can tank it, any mage can, your Nino will be even better.
Then you attack Ursula with Camilla and finish here off with your mage.
Now you move catria/sully forward, use dance on here and kill the Ninja.
Turn 4:
Clean up the red unit, enjoy Ursula.
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Edit: Just realised, that if you use Nino instead of Tharja, Ursula will attack your blue fighter instead of Tharja and things change from here. The red unit will stand behind Ursula and the Ninja attacks the wall. It still works though, you just have to kill Ursula with your Camilla + blue unit, dance the blue unit and kill the red. Only the Ninja will be left, keep Olivia and Nino out of range and kill the ninja next turn.
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Nice guide! For once I am sad that I don't have Camilla lol
At this point I think if I want 4* Ursula I'm going to have to use Setsuna for the ninjas. And maybe Narcian to tank Ursula? Idk, that's where I start running into problems.
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On March 12 2017 04:11 RuiBarbO wrote:
Nice guide! For once I am sad that I don't have Camilla lol
At this point I think if I want 4* Ursula I'm going to have to use Setsuna for the ninjas. And maybe Narcian to tank Ursula? Idk, that's where I start running into problems.
Narcian/Cherche/Frederic or anything like that should do a good job tanking Ursula and the Ninjas. Just not sure if they can oneshot the Ninjas.
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On March 12 2017 04:31 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2017 04:11 RuiBarbO wrote:
Nice guide! For once I am sad that I don't have Camilla lol
At this point I think if I want 4* Ursula I'm going to have to use Setsuna for the ninjas. And maybe Narcian to tank Ursula? Idk, that's where I start running into problems. Narcian/Cherche/Frederic or anything like that should do a good job tanking Ursula and the Ninjas. Just not sure if they can oneshot the Ninjas.
Hooray, I beat it with Narcian (lvl 39, 4*), Setsuna (lvl 35, 4*), Julia, and Nowi (both lvl 40 5*).
Turn one, I put Setsuna inside the range of the bottom ninja and Narcian where Camilla is supposed to go. The bottom ninja attacks Setsuna but can't kill her due to her Assassin's Bow perk. Moreover, Setsuna does a good amount of damage to him, which causes the green knight to warp (via wings of mercy) next to him.
This is very important because it means the top ninja no longer has the green knight between him and Narcian.
So now turn two. Narcian can move up to where the knight used to be and start whacking the ninja. Setsuna moves way back, out of range of Ursula. Julia kills the bottom ninja. Nowi stands right behind Julia.
Ursula attacks Nowi. Top ninja can't do anything because Narcian is blocking the way. Red cavalry does something unthinkably stupid and pulls green knight back one space, effectively freeing Nowi to move in front of Julia next turn.
Turn three, Nowi moves in front of Julia to prevent prevent the red cavalry from killing her. Julia then kills Ursula, healing Nowi for 7. Narcian finishes the top ninja. You can swap Setsuna's HP for Nowi's before doing any of this if you don't think Nowi will have enough otherwise.
Turn four is complicated. For me, Setsuna + Julia was not enough to kill the red cavalry, which meant I had to not attack the red cavalry at all and let Nowi tank another hit (if Nowi is still on that square when the red cav dies, then the green knight will move up and kill her). Fortunately, it took my Nowi 3 hits on her own to kill the red cav, which meant if I left the red cav alone on this turn, he'd still be alive on turn five and I pull Nowi back and kill him with Setsuna.
Also, since the red cavalry didn't die on this turn, I needed to move Narcian out of the way.
So yeah. Assuming turn four goes well, on turn five, you kill the red cav with Setsuna and pull Nowi back. Kill the green knight with Julia and there you go.
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Congrats. Even did without a dancer! Letting the knight teleport out of the way is a pretty sick alternative.
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On March 12 2017 10:03 Musicus wrote:
Congrats. Even did without a dancer! Letting the knight teleport out of the way is a pretty sick alternative.
Thanks :D
Also I look forward to hearing what you think of Path of Radiance... I remember feeling a wee bit meh about it but it's been a long time so maybe I should give it another go. I did like that they finally gave you a soldier class character, I always felt bad for those poor spearmen in FE7 and 8 
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PoR has some of the best story/characters in the series, but the gameplay is probably the easiest in the series unless you can procure a Japanese ROM and can play the game in Japanese. The English release removed the Maniac difficulty and on any lower difficulty the game is basically over by chapter 8.
Chocorush probably has more to say about Maniac mode but I've never played it.
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Musicus!! Thanks so much, im training my subaki atm he is lvl 32 4star now. I've been spamming my duelings swords to lvl him up because stamina limits me too much. Hoping to hit lvl 38 soon, i think i need 33 def and atm i have 29 at 32
I finally did it!!! I didnt know that savage blow doesnt reduce ur hp below 1.
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Nice, finally!
PoR does indeed seem quite easy so far, Titania is just so OP.
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Path of Radiance maniac mode is probably the most "fair" of the series. Nothing really bullshits you, and the difficulty comes mostly from higher base stats and more enemies.
Because of the re-tuning of experience and battle experience, you're not really ahead of the enemy's power curve until quite a bit later in the game. Titania is still the best unit, but you only have one of her while your unpromoted units will easily be taken out if poorly positioned.
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Next banner is Rebecca Jaffar Ninian Lucias FE7 Karel and Priscilla.
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the nino banner was so short i didnt even get to pull from it, with all the princes/cess and sibling banner, which it lasted a bit longer i really want effie
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On March 13 2017 23:46 Shock710 wrote:
the nino banner was so short i didnt even get to pull from it, with all the princes/cess and sibling banner, which it lasted a bit longer i really want effie
I pulled nino which was all I wanted. I really hope I pull a lucius from the Blazing Sword banner tmrw.
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I'm replaying Sacred Stones on my phone and having a total blast :D
First fog of war map is kicking my ass because I refuse to use the OP Paladin Seth (who otherwise hogs all the exp) but after restarting 3 times I think I'm gonna let him go ham.
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