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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 23:29:53
August 02 2016 23:05 GMT
#1341
Corrin is pretty reliably your strongest unit if built right, but the Noble classes are both pretty bad. What was your boon/bane/talent, and how high have you raised your tome rank in Nohr Noble?
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 23:18:32
August 02 2016 23:17 GMT
#1342
On August 03 2016 07:59 Kipsate wrote:
Maybe i'm used to how Awakening OP Corin but he feels kinda eh right now, Nohr Noble seems like a meh class (dragon Hex looks like an OK skill to get though), any thought on what I should reclass him(or I feel like I should reclass him).

Personally I like Master Ninja, swordmaster is alright as well. Yango like Wyvern Lord.

And Yango is right, Corrin is incredibly powerful.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 23:29:58
August 02 2016 23:20 GMT
#1343
I mean I could give a blanket ranking of how strong I think the reclass options are, but that's not very helpful when he's more than halfway through the game and doesn't have the luxury of training low weapon ranks in early chapters. Master Ninja isn't that great if you reclass into it late because low rank shurikens are quite weak. Wyvern Lord struggles for the same reasons, but Malig Knight is potentially passable if the has an appropriate bane/boon choice and has some tome rank progress.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 02 2016 23:30 GMT
#1344
My Tome rank is still E(rip), I think I used the default bane/boon

talent was Dragon.
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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
August 02 2016 23:34 GMT
#1345
Draconic hex is a boss killing skill that isn't really useful until later (even then, there are usually better ways to kill bosses).

Anything on a horse or a dragon tends to be straight up better than Nohr Noble, regardless of your build. If you do reclass late, you should probably use your arms scrolls instead of saving them.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2016 23:38 GMT
#1346
Had to check what the default boon/bane were lol. Looks like it's +HP/-Luck, which isn't great but not awful either.

Dragon is fine, your reclass line is Wyvern so you can just Heart Seal into Wyvern Lord (I like Malig Knight better overall, but I'm not so big on it without +Mag boon). If you have Arms Scrolls still, use those to bump your Lance/Axe rank to D after reclassing. If you don't have Arms Scrolls, Paladin from friendship/marriage with Silas/Peri/Xander are probably better since you don't have to worry about E rank weapons that way.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 23:46:44
August 02 2016 23:45 GMT
#1347
I still have an Arms scroll, my Noble dude is level2 I think, should I level till 5 or go reclass immideately? I could use an Axe user apart from Camilla.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 23:51:28
August 02 2016 23:50 GMT
#1348
On August 03 2016 08:20 TheYango wrote:
I mean I could give a blanket ranking of how strong I think the reclass options are

I'd actually be interested in your opinions on this, from a general perspective. I'm back on my feet after a few chapters but feeling like my MU choices were pretty poor and probably going to restart. I was avoiding swordmaster just because that's what I did in Birthright but I've got a few different things in mind.

Feel free to keep it brief lol
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
August 02 2016 23:53 GMT
#1349
Reclass now. If you really want the level 5 skill, you can class into Noble later on and grab it in one level.

I personally think +Mag is overkill if you're going for Malig Knight. You're hitting caps regardless with Corrin's OP growth's, but you don't need that much magic to ORKO things and would be better off rounding out the weaker stats. Maybe the higher base magic makes a bigger difference when you finally get bolt axe...I don't actually know as the power spike at that point is just ridiculous regardless.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 00:03:04
August 03 2016 00:02 GMT
#1350
With the amount of Mounted class I will be using(Ill have like 3 paladins, Leo Elise, Camila, 1-2 Bow Knights probably, 1 Sky Knight Severa, Wyern Lord MU will Beast Killers become a problem?

Also Elise might be weak in defense but she kicks ass if she ever gets to attack someone lol.
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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
August 03 2016 00:03 GMT
#1351
Dragon is not weak to beast killer, and Corrin always has dragon weakness, so you only gain weakness to arrows.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 03 2016 00:04 GMT
#1352
lol I played the Takumi chapter thinking my Camila would get 1-shot by the beastkillers rip.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 03 2016 00:11 GMT
#1353
Chapter 19 is a bitch with lots of mounted units though
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 00:24:20
August 03 2016 00:16 GMT
#1354
On August 03 2016 08:53 chocorush wrote:
Reclass now. If you really want the level 5 skill, you can class into Noble later on and grab it in one level.

I personally think +Mag is overkill if you're going for Malig Knight. You're hitting caps regardless with Corrin's OP growth's, but you don't need that much magic to ORKO things and would be better off rounding out the weaker stats. Maybe the higher base magic makes a bigger difference when you finally get bolt axe...I don't actually know as the power spike at that point is just ridiculous regardless.

You also get an overkill number of Spirit Dusts, so if you really want to, you can just dump those to catch up your Mag. IIRC the LTC approach is +Str/-Luck Malig and then uses Spirit Dusts to catch up their Mag, I just wasn't sure if Kip necessarily had that available still (since he doesn't have Ophelia's para and might not have enough money to buy the shop one).

On August 03 2016 09:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Chapter 19 is a bitch with lots of mounted units though

Again, Wyverns aren't weak to beast-effective weaponry, so C19 can easily be lowmanned using Wyverns (WL Camilla can basically solo it with pairup).

After C19, C26 is basically the only chapter where beast-effective damage actually matters, and there's still plenty of ways to deal with that chapter (I reclass Xander and he stomps the bottom room by himself).
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 00:31:38
August 03 2016 00:29 GMT
#1355
Oke so I may have Ninja instead cause I can only reclass to Master Ninja or Mechanist rip. I can friendship with Silas to Great Knight/Paladin I suppose.

When(or should you) reclass Camila to WL?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 01:07:29
August 03 2016 00:52 GMT
#1356
You can do it any time really. I do it after she gets level 5 MK for Savage Blow, but doing it earlier or later doesn't matter. You just really want to use the Beast Killer for 19, so if you do it too late you might have to use an Arms Scroll to get her to D lances.

On August 03 2016 08:50 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 08:20 TheYango wrote:
I mean I could give a blanket ranking of how strong I think the reclass options are

I'd actually be interested in your opinions on this, from a general perspective. I'm back on my feet after a few chapters but feeling like my MU choices were pretty poor and probably going to restart. I was avoiding swordmaster just because that's what I did in Birthright but I've got a few different things in mind.

Feel free to keep it brief lol

My super-rough 5-minute ranking would be something like:

Wyvern/Malig > Paladin > Dark Knight > Falco/Kinshi > Chieftain/Basara/Mechanist/Master Ninja > Bow Knight > Onmyoji/Sorcerer > Great Knight > Swordmaster/MoA/Spear Master/Hero > Blacksmith/Berserker > Merchant/Sniper/Adventurer > General > Great Master/Priestess/Strategist/Butler/Maid

With basically everything from Swordmaster/MoA/Spear Master/Hero and higher being definitely better than the Noble classes. I'm not 100% confident on some of these placements, particularly as I haven't played with all of these.
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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
August 03 2016 01:19 GMT
#1357
One thing about the classes it is a bit different if you're considering what to pick as the initial alt class and what is the best as a final class, since Avatar gets to choose pretty much whatever she wants. Even then, mounted > non-mounted is almost always true.

I think Bow Knight is the hardest to rank because it's such a huge utility pick with +1 Mov. It's a ton of fun for sure though, but with the obvious weakness being lack of bulk and early game bow lock if you didn't go +Mag.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 01:23:17
August 03 2016 01:19 GMT
#1358
On August 03 2016 09:52 TheYango wrote:
You can do it any time really. I do it after she gets level 5 MK for Savage Blow, but doing it earlier or later doesn't matter. You just really want to use the Beast Killer for 19, so if you do it too late you might have to use an Arms Scroll to get her to D lances.

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 08:50 Duka08 wrote:
On August 03 2016 08:20 TheYango wrote:
I mean I could give a blanket ranking of how strong I think the reclass options are

I'd actually be interested in your opinions on this, from a general perspective. I'm back on my feet after a few chapters but feeling like my MU choices were pretty poor and probably going to restart. I was avoiding swordmaster just because that's what I did in Birthright but I've got a few different things in mind.

Feel free to keep it brief lol

My super-rough 5-minute ranking would be something like:

Wyvern/Malig > Paladin > Dark Knight > Falco/Kinshi > Chieftain/Basara/Mechanist/Master Ninja > Bow Knight > Onmyoji/Sorcerer > Great Knight > Swordmaster/MoA/Spear Master/Hero > Blacksmith/Berserker > Merchant/Sniper/Adventurer > General > Great Master/Priestess/Strategist/Butler/Maid

With basically everything from Swordmaster/MoA/Spear Master/Hero and higher being definitely better than the Noble classes. I'm not 100% confident on some of these placements, particularly as I haven't played with all of these.

Mmmm, I was trying Hero-ish because Sol is cool but more fliers does seem nice. Idk I might ride it out and see how it goes. I think I also chose HP as the boon which is eh.

Or I could just get Sol and switch right to Wyv/Malig. It'll be a bit later on but I'll at least have the axe skill still?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 01:29:05
August 03 2016 01:26 GMT
#1359
Hero's fine, but mostly just for having a solid stat spread. The skills are pretty mediocre. Sol is nice but nothing to write home about since the class doesn't get a 1-2 range weapon type that can take full advantage of it to tank enemy phases.

Switching to Wyvern/Malig that late is gonna be kind of annoying, since you'd already have a hard time using the Axe rank in Hero. You'd have an easier time switching to Paladin since you're basically building up the sword rank for the whole game.
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chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
August 03 2016 01:27 GMT
#1360
Hero is certainly okay. It just takes until level 5 promoted for it to feel notably different than the other classes, and people's opinions of Sol will wildly vary. If it was FE9's level of brokenness my opinion would be quite different, but my playstyle tends to favor higher stats and just reliably tanking things rather than hoping for procs.
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