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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 06 2017 12:04 GMT
#2661
On September 06 2017 17:17 ahswtini wrote:
im assuming support buffs are going to apply to arena too

It has been confirmed supports won't affect arena
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
September 12 2017 12:18 GMT
#2662
i pulled a hector with -spd +def, which i thought is pretty much perfect, but according to the wiki recommended build, he should be +spd -def

so is my hector good, and what kind of skills should i give him?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-12 14:20:39
September 12 2017 13:04 GMT
#2663
Your hector is great, you dont care about spd because your weapon is a built in quick-riposte. So yeah u have the best IV's possible :D
Vantage is the B-skill you want, special you can go with bonfire/ignis because of the super high def (also that damage isnt reduced by def/res) so you just kill anything upon activation.
Your C-slot depends on what comp u have, its armor emblem cant go wrong with ward-armor. If you want him to be a solo monster you can run threaten defence.

Either way hector is amazing even without SI
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
September 12 2017 13:32 GMT
#2664
ye the feedback im getting is that the wiki can be pretty shit. thanks, time to eat my units for vantage and bonfire
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
September 12 2017 15:33 GMT
#2665
On September 12 2017 22:32 ahswtini wrote:
ye the feedback im getting is that the wiki can be pretty shit. thanks, time to eat my units for vantage and bonfire
I think +SPD -DEF probably is best but Hector works well with any IV more than most other characters. Congrats on the pull, he's super rare and kills it in TT right now with the extra stat boosts.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
September 12 2017 16:05 GMT
#2666
Grats on the Hector. The TT banner only gave me a shiny 5* Hawkeye from 100 orbs.
Can't complain though, got CYL Roy and CYL Lucina in 60 orbs so the TT banner had to even the luck out a bit.
There is no need to be mad.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 12 2017 16:48 GMT
#2667
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 12 2017 17:45 GMT
#2668
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 12 2017 19:02 GMT
#2669
On September 13 2017 02:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1

Seems solid, but should I bother with Hone Cav if she's my only good horse tho?

Also Sacea's Blessing seems so specific but I guess if there's no better B's. Also one less slot to SI is a bonus.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 12 2017 19:12 GMT
#2670
Sacea's is to be able to attack people with distant counter and not be attacked back (Xander/Ike/Hector/etc).

Can't SI it to other people, so she has to keep it.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 12 2017 19:21 GMT
#2671
Yeah I guess I was only thinking of Hector since he seems more common than the others, but there's a few big threats it would be good against you're right.

I gotta dig up a Brave Bow oh man lol
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 12 2017 20:28 GMT
#2672
I actually see Xander/Camus a lot more since Hector doesn't fit into horse emblem.

Ryoma/Ike are pretty common too, although are not really effective as a full team compared to horses. She basically has to have that b skill since otherwise she dies to any phys attack (18 defense doesn't really cut it, even less with L&D3).

I haven't put much into her for that, although I am running a Green Ike/Azura/BowLyn/Camus Arena team that works well. Ike/Camus can tank plenty and BowLyn will take care of most things I have to go offensive for. I am still using her base setup (+ Breath of Life 1 seal).
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 12 2017 20:28 GMT
#2673
On September 13 2017 04:02 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 02:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1

Seems solid, but should I bother with Hone Cav if she's my only good horse tho?

Also Sacea's Blessing seems so specific but I guess if there's no better B's. Also one less slot to SI is a bonus.

Well I put her on a horse team. If you don't atk smoke is fine.
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
September 13 2017 01:35 GMT
#2674
On September 13 2017 02:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1

Hmm, why LaD3 over her natural Swift Sparrow? Feels like a waste since that's a pretty big hit to her decent magic tankiness.
There is no need to be mad.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 01:44:08
September 13 2017 01:42 GMT
#2675
On September 13 2017 10:35 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 02:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1

Hmm, why LaD3 over her natural Swift Sparrow? Feels like a waste since that's a pretty big hit to her decent magic tankiness.

I was going to ask this too, since +4 when attacking vs +5 all the time seems minor. Unless she's going to die when she gets hit regardless of the LaD penalty, so might as well min/max that glass cannon and go for the bonus 1 atk/spd?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51520 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 01:49:27
September 13 2017 01:47 GMT
#2676
been trying to build a horse emblem team - have lyn/reinhardt/cecilia already and been trying to pull horse roy for the longest time on this banner with no success

meanwhile the difference between tier 18 and 19 is massive. so many whales at advanced levels ugh.
at least i'm chugging along alright with hector/cavlyn/olivia/reinhardt.
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RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
September 13 2017 03:08 GMT
#2677
On September 13 2017 10:47 GTR wrote:
been trying to build a horse emblem team - have lyn/reinhardt/cecilia already and been trying to pull horse roy for the longest time on this banner with no success

meanwhile the difference between tier 18 and 19 is massive. so many whales at advanced levels ugh.
at least i'm chugging along alright with hector/cavlyn/olivia/reinhardt.


I can sometimes make it all the way to 20 with my pauperish team. Haven't managed to stay there though.

I've found that Eliwood is actually pretty serviceable as a 5* horse emblem guy. Atk 3/Swordbreaker/Cav buff with Reposition and Glimmer/an equally good skill and he'll usually win any sword or axe duel he gets into. My horse emblem team is now my default offense team and they give me deathless streaks fairly consistently (Titania/Eliwood/Olwen/Lyn).
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 13 2017 11:19 GMT
#2678
I've made it to rank 20 one time, went on a deathless arena run in rank 20 and still deranked to 19 after that. Had like a 4720 and it wasn't enough lol.

I did run into a few teams when I was there that obliterated me too.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 15:29:53
September 13 2017 13:12 GMT
#2679
On September 13 2017 20:19 Alventenie wrote:
I've made it to rank 20 one time, went on a deathless arena run in rank 20 and still deranked to 19 after that. Had like a 4720 and it wasn't enough lol.

I did run into a few teams when I was there that obliterated me too.

thats weird i constantly hit 4800, and theres only one time it allowed me into tier20.
20 is so hard to stay in, that most the time i allow myself to be demoted into 18, 19 because they give 4 orbs anyway. Getting out of 18 to 19 seems pretty easy at this point.

On September 13 2017 10:42 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 10:35 ykl wrote:
On September 13 2017 02:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1

Hmm, why LaD3 over her natural Swift Sparrow? Feels like a waste since that's a pretty big hit to her decent magic tankiness.

I was going to ask this too, since +4 when attacking vs +5 all the time seems minor. Unless she's going to die when she gets hit regardless of the LaD penalty, so might as well min/max that glass cannon and go for the bonus 1 atk/spd?

Unless you're whaling in this game, DO NOT give her LD3...thats crazy expensive for a tiny buff. Especially if youre running her with calv-buffs. Even more so, that in arena many of the maps require a bait to move the enemy units out of position (the defensive tile ones, where you cant reach them straight away but moving first is advantageous to bait them)
On defensive tiles you might survive, but in any other scenario you're hurting ur options.
Im not saying that LD3 is bad tactically, im just comparing LD3 to swiftsparrow theres no need to swap it out.

On September 13 2017 10:47 GTR wrote:
been trying to build a horse emblem team - have lyn/reinhardt/cecilia already and been trying to pull horse roy for the longest time on this banner with no success

meanwhile the difference between tier 18 and 19 is massive. so many whales at advanced levels ugh.
at least i'm chugging along alright with hector/cavlyn/olivia/reinhardt.


Dont forget to hoard 4star, gunters, eliwoods, reinharts.
You want to arrange your buffs, so that you're bladetome can be hit with both hone and Fort, which means she can run either Goad or Ward Cav.
Reinhart, you want him to receive hone and Goad, therefore you give him Fort.

Example, i run Blade-celica, reinhart, eliwood, lyn atm.
Cecila has Ward (So she doesnt miss out on any Hone/fort, and can be buffed by goad for that speed, i run darting blow so i can double everything)

Reinhart has Fort (he needs mainly atk, so hone and Goad can hit him)
Also often you either can blow up a Red unit with Reinhart or a Blue unit with Celica on the first turn, but then you have to get out of the way, so i run reposition on both of them, thus in the end they end up next to each other for Hone/Goad next turn)

Eliwood, Goad, He has plenty of Res already to tank anyway.

Lyn Hone, Shes so strong that she doesnt even really any attack buffs that badly because of Swift sparrow initiation.


dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 13 2017 14:26 GMT
#2680
On September 13 2017 22:12 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 20:19 Alventenie wrote:
I've made it to rank 20 one time, went on a deathless arena run in rank 20 and still deranked to 19 after that. Had like a 4720 and it wasn't enough lol.

I did run into a few teams when I was there that obliterated me too.

thats weird i constantly hit 4800, and theres only one time it allowed me into tier20.
20 is so hard to stay in, that most the time i allow myself to be demoted into 18, 19 because they give 4 orbs anyway. Getting out of 18 to 19 seems pretty easy at this point.

Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 10:42 Duka08 wrote:
On September 13 2017 10:35 ykl wrote:
On September 13 2017 02:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 13 2017 01:48 Duka08 wrote:
I gotta figure out how to juice up my CYL Lyn+Ike+Lucina. Leveling them was ezpz and I've been using them+Olivia (dancer idk never hurts) for a lot of the TTs to pretty solid effect. I've not done any SI yet (in fact I'm still floating a lot of SP to prep for it since a few of their base skills seem meh). Suggestions? I'm sure I can keep Ike pretty basic as a tank and just abuse his stats, but I've no idea what to do with Lyn for example. Bows are a mystery to me; I've had a 5* Takumi for ages but I barely use him these days and never SI'd him lol.

For bowlyn I did
BB+
Repo
Luna
LaD 3
Sacea's Blessing
Hone Cav
Breath of Life 1

Hmm, why LaD3 over her natural Swift Sparrow? Feels like a waste since that's a pretty big hit to her decent magic tankiness.

I was going to ask this too, since +4 when attacking vs +5 all the time seems minor. Unless she's going to die when she gets hit regardless of the LaD penalty, so might as well min/max that glass cannon and go for the bonus 1 atk/spd?

Unless you're whaling in this game, DO NOT give her LD3...thats crazy expensive for a tiny buff. Especially if youre running her with calv-buffs. Even more so, that in arena many of the maps require a bait to move the enemy units out of position (the defensive tile ones, where you cant reach them straight away but moving first is advantageous to bait them)
On defensive tiles you might survive, but in any other scenario you're hurting ur options.
Im not saying that LD3 is bad tactically, im just comparing LD3 to swiftsparrow theres no need to swap it out.

Show nested quote +
On September 13 2017 10:47 GTR wrote:
been trying to build a horse emblem team - have lyn/reinhardt/cecilia already and been trying to pull horse roy for the longest time on this banner with no success

meanwhile the difference between tier 18 and 19 is massive. so many whales at advanced levels ugh.
at least i'm chugging along alright with hector/cavlyn/olivia/reinhardt.


Dont forget to hoard 4star, gunters, eliwoods, reinharts.
You want to arrange your buffs, so that you're bladetome can be hit with both hone and Fort, which means she can run either Goad or Ward Cav.
Reinhart, you want him to receive hone and Goad, therefore you give him Fort.

Example, i run Blade-celica, reinhart, eliwood, lyn atm.
Cecila has Ward (So she doesnt miss out on any Hone/fort, and can be buffed by goad for that speed, i run darting blow so i can double everything)

Reinhart has Fort (he needs mainly atk, so hone and Goad can hit him)
Also often you either can blow up a Red unit with Reinhart or a Blue unit with Celica on the first turn, but then you have to get out of the way, so i run reposition on both of them, thus in the end they end up next to each other for Hone/Goad next turn)

Eliwood, ward (keeping it cheap since he comes with it and plus i like that he buffs Cecila and Lyn so they can take the bait hit and kill on return) He has plenty of Res already to tank anyway.

Lyn Goad, i rather her get buffed with Hone than Goad, and i rather have her have ward to bait. Shes so strong that she doesnt even really any attack buffs that badly because of Swift sparrow initiation.



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It can use some work I know that, but this is the horse team I'm using.
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