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TSM vs Titan will be the tell tale of whether or not titan is ready for cluj. if they cant take TSM to a even game, then they have no hope to advance from groups
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E-frag showing up today.
Never mind, g2 warmed up and are stylin on them
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G2 has been improving steadily
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This stream keeps buffering for me. Like 2 seconds play time for 10 seconds buffer. It never happens to me.
Is anyone else having this problem?
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Guardian: "Okay Zeus, I put us in the lead. Can you get this last player for me?" Zeus: "Yeah I got it." ... Zeus dies Guardian: "Dang it Zeus"
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Na'Vi comeback? important round
edit: dat round :p
-Na'Vi brick wall ct on mirage won't let nV roll ...hold that thought
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Why is the caster saying that this is a huge upset? Seems like recent results would put Na'Vi and nV on pretty much the same level.
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Yeah, nV is in the mandatory major winners slump, and Na'Vi are looking hot. Not an upset
-and they even had maniac instead of happy xd
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Forgot there were games today !
Why is maniac playing ? wtf ?
no IGL and a much worse player, surprise they even took a map out of navi lol
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On January 13 2016 23:01 amazingxkcd wrote: 5 rounds for cyberzen on T side? that's already impressive!
hey, don't you try to apply NA metrics for success to asian teams!
:p
dat 2nd pistol round looked so weird ^^
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ill update the OP when i can (the results section is missing a bit). Pretty easy match for navi, good way to warm up :D
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On January 14 2016 00:22 amazingxkcd wrote: LG falling quite behind
and they actually bounced ahead quite far. They should be able to close this out
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im actually impressed by how bad of a CT side G2 has on train, every round was pretty much a full straight right into a site, not much thinking, props to LG for realizing it tho
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On January 14 2016 00:33 Faruko wrote: im actually impressed by how bad of a CT side G2 has on train, every round was pretty much a full straight right into a site, not much thinking, props to LG for realizing it tho
They did make 1 or 2 b hits to mix it up when they knew G2 was doing an A stack. Very good reads by fallen
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I can actually see LG win this T side inferno. their inferno play is scary...
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I can't waaatch.
LG stronk apparently.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
COLD PUNCHED FALLEN IN THE FACE
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On January 14 2016 00:54 amazingxkcd wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
COLD PUNCHED FALLEN IN THE FACE
hahahaha lol
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7 t rounds for LG already, they should be set to win this map
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On January 14 2016 00:54 amazingxkcd wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
COLD PUNCHED FALLEN IN THE FACE
Wat?
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LG is playing really well!
Next game is LG x navi, right?
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looks like there's a another stream for the other match. ill get that added when that goes up
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Anders talking about Tec9 armour in pistol round... Facepalm.
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On January 14 2016 02:28 Mozdk wrote: Anders talking about Tec9 armour in pistol round... Facepalm. That's a raidboss, someone with good aim buys kevlar and someone drops him a tec9 = profit
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vamos Peru
I mean
Viva Brazil?
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On January 14 2016 02:30 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2016 02:28 Mozdk wrote: Anders talking about Tec9 armour in pistol round... Facepalm. That's a raidboss, someone with good aim buys kevlar and someone drops him a tec9 = profit 
Oh. I thought he was just being stupid.
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Stuchiu wtf. Go back to SC2 and rank some shit for me to enjoy
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LG have all the money they need for full buy next round even if they lose.
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On January 14 2016 03:01 stuchiu wrote: Viva China Jia you?
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Nades are not less accurate from ladders right?
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That last round, omg
Also, fuck that auto sniper 2 awp setup
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Yanko is really good at talking for a long time and saying either nothing, or the same thing 5 times.
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rofl, how did cyberzen hold that?
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cyberzen g2 game live on mirage!
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cyberzen had the perfect read on the a site execute, rotate 5 guys in time but couldn't hold...
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On January 14 2016 02:22 caiovigg wrote: LG gonna win this series
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Fnatic not clutching as usual, that's weird.
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NBK calling instead of Happy, interesting.
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3 maps = 3 wins with maniac as coach
not bad so far
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This production ... I recognize the competence of SL here.
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When your name is Schopenhauer, you are doomed not to be happy
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I have no idea what that means
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very good match, 2-0 but super competitive
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that 2v4 was just pure evil
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OH RIGHT, the pesimist guy
that guy killed all the fun in the world ;_;
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Its time that the CS:GO fixes their got damn timer between games. I just lost interest yet again, i dont want to wait what feels like an eternity. Looked forward to watch fnatic vs ? but nah not gonna watch now.
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yeah, zeus is oftentimes quite impactful in close na'vi games
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so ummm... these matches going on right now don't seem very relevant right? its just to determine which team you play from the other match going on right now...
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its GSL style, winner of NaVi/G2 plays nV and Fnatic/TQM vs Luminosity
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hmmm liquipedia has a Ro6 listed in the playoffs thats all
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Hmm im not sure how does that works out, theres only 2 groups and i doubt 3 teams would advance.
that means 3rd vs 2nd on each group and the winner of that match goes agaisnt nV/LG ?
would be ultra weird
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so yeah these games are pretty irrelevant xd
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wow, what an awful format lmao, althou cool for 3rd team
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Fnatic really getting the D right now. What's the last map?
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Inferno, which looks like we'll be going to
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when apex steps up and does not tilt nV is terrifying
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to be fair, the one that has been tilting or not playing to his standard its k1o, surprisingly
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this is gonna go OT, navi on tilt
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hey man, G2 threw that b execute. No nades or anything on to the site
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On January 15 2016 03:00 Faruko wrote: to be fair, the one that has been tilting or not playing to his standard its k1o, surprisingly true, since he always shows up somewhat
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Yeah, I think Fnatic advances, and Na'Vi form feels better than TSM. I also want to see Na'Vi - nV, wanna see if Na'Vi have figured them out yet(aka can match their HS ratio)
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this might get ugly for G2
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what is up with G2? They show 0 coordination its like an FPL match for them, no set plays no popflashes no trades.
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Jkaems spray control is nutty
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G2 its getting a good economy and fntic not, this might be a close map if G2 doesnt fucked it up
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G2 needs a tactical coach or caller like right now.
see ? even casters know it lol
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nice, coming home and fnatic is up 1 map :p
was not too close according to the thread lol.
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They need to kick either Fox or Maikelele and get pronax, not having an in game leader its and will always be the bane of this team
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Said before multiple times, G2 has world class aimers and pubbers, that means as long as they can outaim or outpub their opponents they can beat anyone. The problem is that top 3-5 teams have aim that is on par and coordination.
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And now Inferno, G2 will have to pull out some crazy stuff or their donezo
-what's going on lool
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the shots at the game losing play by maikelele on inferno at the major
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wow 1hp molly dance ^^
fnatic just having fun.
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Yeah, idk what G2 can do really
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Fnatic already 6 rounds on T side and their CT is scary too
this game seems over.
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haha that was cute. smoke, then mollying as they have to push through ^^
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yeah i dont know about it but janko was right about this team not having idea how to play this game in a real competitive level (against top5 teams)
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what the actual fuck maikelele 5v3 on CT and you take those kind of risks ?
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this almost looks like nV, with all those T rounds
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On January 15 2016 22:44 Muffloe wrote: this almost looks like nV, with all those T rounds
funny thing is, it shifted again for fnatic and they are - once again - godlike on the CT side, and "only" extremely good on the T side on inferno..
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harder, better, faster, stronger --> fnatic :p
they basically bitch slapped G2 through the map that is inferno.
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find it so funny that smix is basically analysing and interviewing on a super high level - and the belarussian(?) guy is basically there because he looks good lol.
also totally relevant, I met smix at DH stockholm 2014 - just sayin :p
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On January 15 2016 22:57 Doublemint wrote: find it so funny that smix is basically analysing and interviewing on a super high level - and the belarussian(?) guy is basically there because he looks good lol.
also totally relevant, I met smix at DH stockholm 2014 - just sayin :p
Yeah, she seems to have good insight actually ^^
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On January 15 2016 23:23 Makro wrote: is the g2 hype dead ? I think they can come back, but as every says they need better leadership and coordination.
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Aizy and Jkaem are much better than their team mates
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i don't watch that much CS and I haven't watched in a while, but who the heck is '?'
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On January 15 2016 23:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote: i don't watch that much CS and I haven't watched in a while, but who the heck is '?'
? is Team QuestionMark and ?? is ex-titan
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TQM, Ex TSM
Karrigan, device etc.
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oh, TSM and Titan disbanded? that's a little surprising
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Actually Titan entire organization died because of kqly vac ban, they said the fundings drop down big after that
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damn csgo has been undergoing a lot I guess haha
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well, dota 2 game 1 was fast
maybe we wont be waiting till tomorrow for NaVi vs TQM
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cheer for Guardian or cheer for Karrigan
hard life
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Guardian, in-game monster but super friendly and humble. I also like how Na'Vi is both the history and future of CIS in one team
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Yeah, fallen feels like one of the most hard-working guys ever.
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flamie with some sick shots, is he on point today
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device, you need to step up and challenge flamie
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? have to get going right now.
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lol what is this, they just walk in and hs everyone in ?
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is the stadium in ukraine ?
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It is extremely impressive to see the pro CS players reaching new levels every passing tourney. Sick plays by flamie.
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On January 16 2016 03:57 Makro wrote: is the stadium in ukraine ? belarus
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On January 16 2016 03:59 Faruko wrote:belarus thanks
even if na'vi picked dust 2, it is one of the strongest map of ?, can't believe they lost the map like this
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Don't want to take anything from Na'VI but the russian casters are giving away to much info, and we know that the booths aren't that soundproof. I just hope im wrong
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for goodness these ads really ..
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On January 16 2016 03:58 Faruko wrote: stomp
At least we can be happy for Na'Vi in CSGO. Or you are cheering for the other team?
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always navi, in every game
except lol, thats not a game thats a travesty
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On January 16 2016 04:06 Faruko wrote: always navi, in every game
except lol, thats not a game thats a travesty
same here, lol is shit
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cmon atleast put up a fight
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On January 16 2016 04:16 Sn0_Man wrote: Please refrain from bashing other games and keep it on topic
Oh sorry, will do
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TQM is just letting navi setup for executes every time
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ok navi, wtf was that fake?
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TQM needs a shake up, navi its just too metodical and surprisingly, TQM biggest advantage was how good they were tactically speaking, they just seem to lost that
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everyone knows how this movie ends
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1v2 and he goes water? That doesn't seem like the right move to me.
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yup
well it should be since it's one of their better maps
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These carsters are so gooooooooood.
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Can Na'Vi do the comeback
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On January 16 2016 06:06 Muffloe wrote: Can Na'Vi do the comeback
tqm tilt/guardian godmode is always in play
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Such patience in the retake. That's something you never see in MG1
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what a close ending holy moly
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2200 - 4700 on TQM.
And they've lost one in a row. They can't even buy full next with the guys under 3k.
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wow what happened i left and they were up like 9-2 hahah
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On January 16 2016 06:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: wow what happened i left and they were up like 9-2 hahah innovation ? ex tsm ? not the same game but the same destiny
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On January 16 2016 06:24 BlackCompany wrote: NaVi pls End it!
The re-choke is real?
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On January 16 2016 06:25 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 06:23 Makro wrote:On January 16 2016 06:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: wow what happened i left and they were up like 9-2 hahah innovation ? ex tsm ? not the same game but the same destiny you can take them out of tsm, but you can't take the tsm out of them or something the choke man
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On January 16 2016 06:25 Mozdk wrote:The re-choke is real? Thankfully not Was scared for a sec when guardian almost got cought in middle
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GG, TQM played well and could atleast comeback on their map. Na'Vi on the other hand have a really difficult match up coming up against nV
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On January 16 2016 06:28 Muffloe wrote: GG, TQM played well and could atleast comeback on their map. Na'Vi on the other hand have a really difficult match up coming up against nV na'vi has a clear map pool advantage over nV but considering this ban/pick system i don't know how it is gonna turn out
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Actually Na'Vi beat nV the last time they met.
Na'Vi might just be in another finals.
The more interesting series is Fnatic v LG. If LG wins this series, I think they can be called legit.
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I know Na'Vi won latest, I still think their badly matched with nV's fast pace tho I would love to be proven wrong tho!
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nV should just instant ban d2
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I won't even be mad if LG beat Fnatic, these guys are champs
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it's gonna be a fallen vs olofmeister 1v1 by proxy i called it first
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On January 16 2016 06:49 Makro wrote:it's gonna be a fallen vs olofmeister 1v1 by proxy i called it first yeah, fallen can probably force jw into a rifler role, and then battle it out with olof
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Dunno why they still ask for thorin predictions before a LG game. It's always an "Easy 2-0 for the other team"
No wonder why fallen said the analysts are shit and always mute them
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I agree with Thorin about not counting the bo1 inferno vs a fnatic about to change line-up tho
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Fer just too godly. I'm normally in favour of the french teams, but I really want LG to win this tournament.
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ill eat my shoe and realize LGare super legit, i always thought those runs were mostly because of lack of team preparation from other teams but thats really not the case (i mean, they indeed lost 0-2 against c9 in some lan tournament, and drop out of ESL in groups)
fer its indeed a god
and dennis might be a much better player than pronax, but i feel they are in the same situation of G2 except they have 3 exceptional player to carry them
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Great map from LG , Fnatic are still in it , they been there done that before , lets see how LG nerves hold up!
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OK thorin, you were right. Looks like a REALLY ENFATIC 2-0 here.
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WHAT A MAP.
And FalleN didn't even fragged like mad. Oh this is going to be interesting.
On January 16 2016 20:52 bluzi wrote: Great map from LG , Fnatic are still in it , they been there done that before , lets see how LG nerves hold up!
You mean, when they had pronax?
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hahahahah wtf was THAT!!!!
insane
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what the hell
how did fallen killed himself ?
what a throw of a round
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alright if they get cache I think inferno should be doable for Fnatic but if they play like this then nV(or navi for that matter) will beat the shit out of them in the finals
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On January 16 2016 21:38 Kipsate wrote: alright if they get cache I think inferno should be doable for Fnatic but if they play like this then nV(or navi for that matter) will beat the shit out of them in the finals
I would never bet against Fnatic , they always seems to find a way.... they adjust on the fly better then anyone out there maybe envyUs are at the same level of confidence , but Navi are not.
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I hope Na'Vi channels their 2010 form and wins it all.
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Inferno is one of their very best map (fnatic) no? Don't know about LG.
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On January 16 2016 21:50 Roggay wrote: Inferno is one of their very best map (fnatic) no? Don't know about LG.
One the best LG maps as well. They won against TSM on it and it was close against fnatic in dreamhack winter IIRC
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damn missed two games already :D
LG won on mirage ?
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Do we really need to hear the russian casters by the way?...
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3v5 eco no kevlar? fnatic, calm down
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Wait what. That looked like such a dead round for fnatic.
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i cant believe lg threw that round away, 2v5...
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you can't let that happen against fnatic
it may cost them the game
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10-5 its already a good score
9-6 would be a little too much for LG
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wtf are LG doing.... just sit back and take the round ....... worst round of their life
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considering the ct side of fnatic for me it's over for LG
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Pistol round is mega important for LG , if they lose it i think its over for them
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On January 16 2016 22:34 bluzi wrote: wtf are LG doing.... just sit back and take the round ....... worst round of their life Especially because they are always hyped up as a team that always win those rounds where they just don't need to throw it.
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that was not the play fallen, and thats like the third time they try to go for the trade AFTER the round end, why ? save the gun, you are already getting $0
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That push from olof lost fnatic the round.
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lmao they were on the verge of doing it, how is that possible
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Krimz is raging pretty hard.
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god damn LG are fighting like crazy!
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muffloe is your heart ok ?
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On January 16 2016 22:59 Kipsate wrote: is this happening OT or 16-14 for fnatic
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dennis the jump master literally
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this round was all about dennis
he just gave fnatic the winning round with his cz
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Dennis, contract = worth it
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I'm not even mad i've been waiting for hours but this game is fucking crazy
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Damn LG fought like lions , but Fnatic are just so clutch is unreal , when push come to shove they excel ....
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what a game
LG fought back until the last moment, gg fnatic
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Oh smix... "Navi vs.....what is the next team...ENVYUS!"
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I too needed a new pair of pants ^^ I mean unreal this map 3.
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There was also that round where during Luminosity CT-side, they lost against a kevlarless pistol buy from Fnatic.
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On January 16 2016 23:30 Faefae wrote: lol thorin :D
Ppl like to give him shit but he's good for a laugh!
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It would be really cool to have a major in Brasil at some point.
Youd need a local organiser who is capeable tho.
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Hi CS people.
Will finals be played today?
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im pretty sure no, finals should be tomorrow
i dont know if dota or cs would go first, consindering previous schedule, dota should be first then cs
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Finals are tomorrow , there is still another semi`s to play
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On January 16 2016 23:51 bluzi wrote: Finals are tomorrow , there is still another semi`s to play
And the semi is today?
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On January 16 2016 23:59 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 23:51 bluzi wrote: Finals are tomorrow , there is still another semi`s to play And the semi is today? yes
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So why are they showing LoL on CS stream? When is the CS. I do not do LoL.
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Or Dota. It might be Dota. I can't tell the difference.
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starladder features dota and csgo
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according to gosugamers envy vs navi is now but when i click it i go to dota What is going on?
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On January 17 2016 01:13 Foxxan wrote: according to gosugamers envy vs navi is now but when i click it i go to dota What is going on?
It will start after dota will finish. That is about 2 hours from now
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On January 17 2016 02:30 amazingxkcd wrote: nv navi slated to start soon. Hype!!!!!!!!!
Actual soon or SoonTM? 
Is 20 mins to knife round realistic?
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On January 17 2016 02:31 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 02:30 amazingxkcd wrote: nv navi slated to start soon. Hype!!!!!!!!! Actual soon or SoonTM?  Is 20 mins to knife round realistic?
I would say at least 30
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Ffs. Have to watch handball in 1.5 hours. I guess I'll catch most of CS on rerun.
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I was right, NBK is leading EnVy now. You guys all doubted me lol
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rofl i didnt realize we havent seen a single cobble game
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On January 17 2016 02:52 Faruko wrote: rofl i didnt realize we havent seen a single cobble game
Are you saying what you think I'm saying?
"Let's go B, and keep going B"
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"Maybe we cou.... " "NO B, JUST B"
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cobble, train, mirage
we can have a spectacular series
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afaik, nV is quite good at taking A aswell, and on B they can just go out and 'eadshot, a truly terrifying T side
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first round are going to be nuts as always
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navi is going to take it infront of the "home crowd" and because their style matches very well against envyus. or envyus just plays like against fnatic are unstoppable^^
GO NA'VI!
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Are Envy favoured? That would be my guess, but I am not entirely sure.
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poor edward, I've been there. 5-7 just doesn't do the job against a jump spammer lmao
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On January 17 2016 03:13 Mozdk wrote: Are Envy favoured? That would be my guess, but I am not entirely sure. they are (at least imo)
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Na'Vi doing some really good work on the Eco-rounds
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all these rounds, so close
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guardian is a fucking monster
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GUARDIAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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He's playing close to plateau with AWP. That's... I don't know what that is.
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this map is CT or T sided?
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On January 17 2016 03:20 V1ctor wrote: this map is CT or T sided?
traditionally T sided
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On January 17 2016 03:21 amazingxkcd wrote:traditionally T sided
so 4-5 rounds as CT are good enough?
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On January 17 2016 03:22 V1ctor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 03:21 amazingxkcd wrote:On January 17 2016 03:20 V1ctor wrote: this map is CT or T sided? traditionally T sided so 4-5 rounds as CT are good enough?
6 rounds I would expect CT to have, though it is quite varied based on the teams playing. Note that Envy are T side monsters so this is going their way
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its T sided, but if you ask meis still the most balanced map around, 8-7 are pretty normal
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On January 17 2016 03:22 V1ctor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 03:21 amazingxkcd wrote:On January 17 2016 03:20 V1ctor wrote: this map is CT or T sided? traditionally T sided so 4-5 rounds as CT are good enough?
Not that T sided. With 5 you're definately behind.
Somewhere between 9-6 and 8-7 is probably even.
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but nV its the best cobble team and their T side its stupidly awesome
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On January 17 2016 03:26 Faruko wrote: but nV its the best cobble team and their T side its stupidly awesome
Na'Vi lost the knife round?
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Guardian is out of this world lmao
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Happy why you pulling nade out there!?!?!
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i bet guardian and 4 pieces of wood can be a low tier 1 team
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Na'Vi is winning with weird movements. I don't know if it's luck or genius.
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On January 17 2016 03:33 Makro wrote: i bet guardian and 4 pieces of wood can be a low tier 1 team
oh cmon, don't be salty
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seized with the massive YOLO
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On January 17 2016 03:34 V1ctor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 03:33 Makro wrote: i bet guardian and 4 pieces of wood can be a low tier 1 team oh cmon, don't be salty lol what ? i'm literally praising guardian
btw na'vi is a top tier 1 team, the 4 pieces of wood wasn't a reference to his team mate
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On January 17 2016 03:34 V1ctor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 03:33 Makro wrote: i bet guardian and 4 pieces of wood can be a low tier 1 team oh cmon, don't be salty He has 20 kills, edward has 9 ...
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On January 17 2016 03:34 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 03:34 V1ctor wrote:On January 17 2016 03:33 Makro wrote: i bet guardian and 4 pieces of wood can be a low tier 1 team oh cmon, don't be salty lol what ? i'm literally praising guardian
sorry then
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beautiful clutch there by edward, Navi needed that 5th round
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5 is totally doable.
GOGO NA'VI!
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On January 17 2016 03:35 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 03:34 V1ctor wrote:On January 17 2016 03:33 Makro wrote: i bet guardian and 4 pieces of wood can be a low tier 1 team oh cmon, don't be salty He has 20 kills, edward has 9 ...
edward is hit or miss most of the times. Hope he brings his A game soon
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somehow (Guardian) navi managed to get 5 rounds as CT
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that pistol change by Zeus, how...
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if Na'Vi stay calm and play to their strengths they can take it on T side
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good, Na'Vi need that pistol round
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that's gonna go to the OT
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happy what a beast....for a moment i thought Na'Vi will lose this
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lol. high level stuff going on. happy is a beast.
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well, he is 8th in 2015 for a reason (hltv rating)
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Holy shit navi on a roll. Guardian doesnt have to carry as much.
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kennyS losing another duel with guardian, easy site for Navi to take
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Holy. This map turned while I was away. What happened. Envy was so far ahead. I was only gone for like 10 mins.
I guess their CT does not match their T.
Or Navi are ballers too on T?
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On January 17 2016 03:46 Mozdk wrote: Holy. This map turned while I was away. What happened. Envy was so far ahead. I was only gone for like 10 mins.
I guess their CT does not match their T.
Or Navi are ballers too on T?
Just Edward has stepped up a little...and Guardian on fire
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the crowd shouting "envy go home"
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Banking everything on Guardian not going B long :D
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if envy loses this map it's basically over damn
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On January 17 2016 03:53 Makro wrote: if envy loses this map it's basically over damn
if Na'Vi gets to play as CT first on train then yes
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On January 17 2016 03:46 Mozdk wrote: Holy. This map turned while I was away. What happened. Envy was so far ahead. I was only gone for like 10 mins.
I guess their CT does not match their T.
Or Navi are ballers too on T?
10-5 half. Navi won the pistol and has been shutting down all the force buy shenanigans from Envy.
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holy shit navi is playing so fucking well
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i dont think apex has gotten a single kill on CT side yet? thats a lot of missing impact frags
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On January 17 2016 03:59 Faruko wrote: holy shit navi is playing so fucking well
if only their dota squad played as good...
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literally kryptonite
once fnatic, now na'vi
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Man this is some brutal CS from Navi
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Ahahahah Happy, going at that range
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practicaly all the envy players except happy fell off the map after their T half, with happy sporting almost as many kills as the rest of his team combined on the CT side so far (maybe barring that last round where apex and nbk finally stepped up)
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gg Na'Vi, 1 more map please
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Awesome stuff from NaVi Although i am slightly disappointed Edward lost his beard
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very nice
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that 5-10 to 16-12 was impressive as all HELL.
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that was some top tier cs by navi
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On January 17 2016 04:07 Faruko wrote: that was some top tier cs by navi After somehow getting 5 they switched gears HARDCORE
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How is the new Train compared to the old Train?
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On January 17 2016 04:31 WindWolf wrote: How is the new Train compared to the old Train?
pretty good.
Also, KennyS whiffing like hard ahaha
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it's over. envy on full tilt.
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They balanced train ? or Envy are jsut being raped?
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On January 17 2016 04:41 bluzi wrote: They balanced train ? or Envy are jsut being raped?
its Envy losing everything
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envy has to be the weakest top team in terms of mentality right now, this happens so often
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On January 17 2016 04:43 Aocowns wrote: envy has to be the weakest top team in terms of mentality right now, this happens so often
nah. though they are working hard on becoming the new TQM ^^
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yea this is over. nV's economy in shambles
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Look at that bullshit ... Just toss a coin and see if you win ....
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well this was underwhelming
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I don't Navi should have much trouble closing this out on CT side.
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My livestreamer just be behind D: I'm still watching Navi on T side. 13:1
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Envy is way too stubborn with their force buys. Felt like they ruined their chances of taking cbble with it, and now same story. Just do a proper eco round once in a while...
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On January 17 2016 04:53 Latham wrote:My livestreamer just be behind D: I'm still watching Navi on T side. 13:1
nah its thoorin throwing numbers out there, though 3-16 can legit happen at this point
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its over, Happy lurking too hard
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3:16 was either a bible or wrestling reference (john 3:16 / austin 3:16)
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So which is the stronger team? Navi or Fnatic? If the finals won't collide with doto I'll watch with interest.
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fnatic will win once again
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On January 17 2016 04:58 Latham wrote: So which is the stronger team? Navi or Fnatic? If the finals won't collide with doto I'll watch with interest. I don't think that the finals will collide as they have played on the same stage as far as I have watched
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On January 17 2016 04:58 Latham wrote: So which is the stronger team? Navi or Fnatic? If the finals won't collide with doto I'll watch with interest. Fnatic will win. Na'Vi is only in the top 4 because they can bet Tier 2 teams and Envy but they lose against TQM and Fnatic all the time.
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Na'Vi on home turf might expose Fnatic.
I'm super disappointed in EnVy. Wasn't even that competitive.
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On January 17 2016 04:58 Latham wrote: So which is the stronger team? Navi or Fnatic? If the finals won't collide with doto I'll watch with interest.
fnatic has been considered world's strongest team for quite a while, based on their semi match and this spanking of nV by Na'Vi though idk, Na'Vi seems to be in better form. Then again fnatic hasn't lost a series to Na'Vi in a long time.
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that was expected since they lost cobble, now they can only reduce the point difference
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with pronax? easy win fnatic. Without pronax? I still think fnatic edges out ahead, but we'll see
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Are brazilians a top 4 team? or was luminosity a dark horse that almost had a cindarella story?
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Too bad, nv ct side was looking good
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On January 17 2016 05:04 Latham wrote: Are brazilians a top 4 team? or was luminosity a dark horse that almost had a cindarella story? They might be top 5 right now. Two strong showings with this current line-up.
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GG Navi
Really close diffuse there
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i still think fnatic has the edge over na'vi
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GG. envy needs to really work on their mental fortitude. if it was only half as good as their skill and aim they would be unstoppable.
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Would be a great story for Na'Vi to finally come through against fnatic in the finals aswell, I'll be happy with either win
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thinking of it, nV should have a larger map pool, it hurts too much against team like na'vi
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On January 17 2016 05:29 Makro wrote: thinking of it, nV should have a larger map pool, it hurts too much against team like na'vi They actually have a decent map pool
The veto process didnt favor them, really.
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On January 17 2016 04:53 Salazarz wrote: Envy is way too stubborn with their force buys. Felt like they ruined their chances of taking cbble with it, and now same story. Just do a proper eco round once in a while... Oh
Standard envy method when it fails :p
Brilliant ehenbit works disaster when doesnt.
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On January 17 2016 05:32 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2016 05:29 Makro wrote: thinking of it, nV should have a larger map pool, it hurts too much against team like na'vi They actually have a decent map pool The veto process didnt favor them, really. they should be better on at least one more map, they have 4 map on which they are really good
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Come on, those force buys have won them many many more rounds than lost them, and many more maps than those have lost them.
Its a nv special for a reason
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haha yea i agree, you can't remove nV out of nV
if they had their aim on point as usual i bet these fb would have gone way better
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Thats the problem and brilliance about nV
They force buy and it works more then often but sometimes it doesnt.
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Yeah, they clearly had a bad day and navi was super on point.
But this is why i love cs so much, top5-6 teams can beat each other any day of the week
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On January 17 2016 06:51 Kipsate wrote: Thats the problem and brilliance about nV
They force buy and it works more then often but sometimes it doesnt.
Na'vi is a bad matchup for force buys and the new clock timings have benefited them by far the most on T side.
They have also had NV's number ever since Edward started showing some of his 1.6 form. Guardian doing Guardian things with good frag support from Flamie, Seized, Edward has put them into the top tier recently. I didnt count them there around Cluj. I would now.
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The thing with navi is that they are super methodical in their approach
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On January 17 2016 09:17 Faruko wrote: The thing with navi is that they are super methodical in their approach and guardian man, can't say it anymore but this guy, how is it possible to be that consistent
fnatic has olofmeister to shut him down, fortunately
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i think guardian will shut down olof to be fair lol.
Actually even Zeus its now looking like a great player, Starix has been doing phenomenal work for navi as coach and "in game" leader
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Olof is a beast , he always rotates when you don't expect him to , he puts TON of pressure with his moves and has a great aim , Guardian is a rock , you know he is there you peak and get blown up , both are amazing players which are a joy to watch should be great series , you guys know if its before or after the Dota games ?
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Its after the Dota games.
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Awwww still a full hour to go
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The thing with fnatic against other teams is that their awpers might not be as good as kennys or guardian, but they have 2-3 potential awpers so you never know who is awping, that gives them a good secret for some set pieces and stuff
I think the game will be decided by whatever dennis can be a deciding factor or not
Overall i think dennis was a meh move so far, i mean the team is indeed playing better but dennis has been super dissapointing (compared to what we expected) barring some maps here and there, im sure fnatic expected a lot more out of the dennis move
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So will the games be starting any time now, or will they banter until the legit start time at 15 CET?
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To be fair, dennis was a m8 move. Pronax wanted a break, and then play with his friends (which he is doing now in the katowice qualifier), so fnatic countered by bringing in a friend for themselves
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Do you think pronax might actually comeback ?
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Yeah, sure. They have okay-ish potential with this team, and they will obviously have a great mood in the team (haven't heard anything about if Pronax hands have gotten better though)
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I dont think Pronaxs current team will amount to anything to be honest. :D
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On January 17 2016 23:04 Luolis wrote: I dont think Pronaxs current team will amount to anything to be honest. :D Sure, although it seems like Pronax passion isn't for being the best anymore, so unless someone else leaves they can become a lasting team atleast ^^
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so my friends dodged MM about 40mins ago to, uh, watch the finals
we would've played 15+ rounds by the time the final actually starts btw
i'm rarely right, but when i am... ^_^
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Hmm, interesting match. Depends a lot on how Fnatic plays IMO.
On January 17 2016 23:04 Luolis wrote: I dont think Pronaxs current team will amount to anything to be honest. :D
He will on his own. Hard carry IGL all the way :D
But yeah, only twist is actually on the level I'd say.
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Na'Vi what the fuck lol...
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Guardian with the AWP. Let's see how he does.
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he did good, but other Na'Vi teammates are sleeping
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yeah, it's probably a possibility that Na'Vi will tense up alittle too much
that was more uncharacteristic guardian
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Time to get into this map.
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There we go with the entry atleast
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They could have had 5 surviving. Good to get the round, but it could have been a bigger boost.
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Did smoke go into window? The elevator smoke...
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They need the flamienator now
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Holy shit, Fnatic dominating this half so hard.
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back to typical navi? I would never predict navi to win in a final vs fnatic. But lets see...
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Wow, will Sweden 2:0 Starladder?
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Anders and Semmler are being the most Na'Vi apologist ever. Fnatic is winning with ridiculous things ? Well that's Na'Vi base gameplan sooooo
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GUARDIAN OF THE GALAXYYYYY
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GUARDIAN YOU ARE LITERALLY GOD
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Huuu~ that got the crowd into it
e: and that shut them up lol
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That was more 1-sided than the doto 2 finals.
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navi such boring team to watch, they are not even top 5 in the world got damnit. Guardian is good the rest are like mediocre in general
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maybe nv vs navi would have been better ? the match is not over anyway so hopefully navi gets thing going now
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On January 18 2016 00:03 Foxxan wrote: navi such boring team to watch, they are not even top 5 in the world got damnit. Guardian is good the rest are like mediocre in general They looked way good coming in to this tho, they just have a mental block vs Fnatic
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Gonna be double Swedish winners at this Starladder for sure!
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On January 18 2016 00:03 Foxxan wrote: navi such boring team to watch, they are not even top 5 in the world got damnit. Guardian is good the rest are like mediocre in general lol what ? edward, flamie and seized are clearly not mediocre
surely if you watch only this map...
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On January 18 2016 00:03 Foxxan wrote: navi such boring team to watch, they are not even top 5 in the world got damnit. Guardian is good the rest are like mediocre in general I really wanna see your top 5^^
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God damn it, what a map 1. Comeback time NaVi, pleeeeeeeease!
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Even though I wouldn't take it as _the_ reference, HLTV has them as #3. And they have good arguments for that. Like, Cluj Finals, IEM San Jose title, EEPL 2 Finals, and now SLTV XIV finals.
A team that quite consistently makes the finals is quite high in the top if you ask me.
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Yeah to me Na'Vi is substituting for TQM in the top 3 atm, since TQM are chronic chokesters
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Really expensive for Navi
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VOD of this is 6 hours and 30 mins, but when I press it, it's only 29 mins. I hope it gets fixed. I want to rewatch Guardians quad kill.
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On January 18 2016 00:30 Mozdk wrote: VOD of this is 6 hours and 30 mins, but when I press it, it's only 29 mins. I hope it gets fixed. I want to rewatch Guardians quad kill. Twitch VODs of live sessions no longer work properly on any channel.
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NaVi looks broken already and noone but Guardian showed up so far ._.
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i think navi needs 1 more round, if they can get 2 i can see them making a stand on the T side
but this is fnatic, navi's kryptonite
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seen this before, if Guardian is a problem you avoid him, they know Guardian plays A and Navi's B is so weak, dropdown and plateau continiously lose am duels to Fnatic.
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did i miss a lot ?
16:3 dust2 what the heck
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Well this was boring... But hey Sweden 2:0's Starladder.
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On January 18 2016 00:59 Makro wrote: did i miss a lot ?
16:3 dust2 what the heck
nope, just na'vi getting wrecked
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This is heartbreaking
Edit: Okay that was awesome
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at least seized is showing some signs of life
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And they lose the antieco...
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it just show how important the mental is : how can they produce such a level of play against nV and crumble like this against fnatic
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Just get it over with so i can forget this happened
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rofl, flamie ragequit
P.S. fuck you na'vi
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Anticlimactic finals in both games today eh
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4 lans in a row for Fnatic, but I'm just bummed about Na'Vi choke :/
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just wish we had a nV fnatic final
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that was some godlike cs by fnatic
ALTHOU navi didnt showed up to the finals, its kinda hard to watch, they need a new player, someone that could keep the pressure on, fnatic and other team has something that navi doesnt
players that are used to this big stages, i actually think that once navi gets out of their finals choke point, they could sky rocket to the top, but so far they always seem to lack that certain confidence other top tier teams have, that they actually show in semi finals time and time again.
experience its pretty important
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sweden stole ukrainian money in dota and in csgo
literally starladder :swedish edition
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That was depressing. They have some real issues playing Fnatic.
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On January 18 2016 01:11 Rebs wrote: That was depressing. and considering your EG flag
its not the best day for you huh
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Naa I dont care that much unless its a major. I only support EG coz Sumail and Universe I suppose.
I dont care to much about who wins CS period, I like Vp and Nv but I'd rather see good games.
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So predictable. Na'Vi is trash against the Top 4 when they don't face nV.
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On January 18 2016 01:45 Otolia wrote: So predictable. Na'Vi is trash against the Top 4 when they don't face nV.
Considering Na'Vi and nV are 2/4 of the top4, what the fuck are you even talking about lol
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Traditionally it has been NIP, VP, NV, and Fnatic. Navi can only recently be considered for the top 4/5.
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Lmao NIP its super dead
And VP its in a weird spot
#1 Fnatic #2 nV #3 NaVi #4 VP or TQM
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Nip hasn't been in that list for a large part of the last year imo.
Fnatic, nV, VP, TQM was the top 4 for the better part of last year with Na`Vi always encroaching and VP always being in between godtier VPlow and Vthrow.
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I would even say LG has a higher place than NIP and maybe could steal TQM spot if their upcoming tournaments yeild good results
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I liked NIP mostly because of Alu ever since the Redbull clip. Gonna go fanboy LG now... Fallen so sick.
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Hard not to root for LG. They need to get over there Fnatic hump in later knockouts though. This roster is more than capable of winning a tournament with top teams in it. It probably wont happen, but its capable.
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On January 18 2016 02:39 Faruko wrote: Lmao NIP its super dead
And VP its in a weird spot
#1 Fnatic #2 nV #3 NaVi #4 VP or TQM Do you know what traditionally means? This is the first start to a season in GO that the top 4 has really changed. I wasn't listing my top 4 list, I was answering the guy above my post who asked what the other guy meant by top 4..
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