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Mensol
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Luolis
Finland7086 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:42 iXphobos wrote: 2 kills is something you can't overlook. No matter if you're the best player in the world or not. Getting just 2 kills is almost a guaranteed loss for your team. Sure, but all players have reeeally bad games sometimes. Theres no way to be uberconsistent. For example Friberg had only 2 kills after the T side on inferno at the last major final. Still didnt see massive amounts of people wanting him kicked... | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
not sure if nv will beat TSM tho | ||
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iXphobos
Germany1464 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:44 Luolis wrote: Sure, but all players have reeeally bad games sometimes. Theres no way to be uberconsistent. For example Friberg had only 2 kills after the T side on inferno at the last major final. Still didnt see massive amounts of people wanting him kicked... Sure. No need to kick him. But we can make fun of him at the least. xDD | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:45 Kipsate wrote: Didn't really feel like nV played bad, LG just played incredible, not sure if nv will beat TSM tho Really depends on maps, but I think they could. TSM was not the most impressive against Renegades, while nV played 2 amazing games. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7086 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:46 iXphobos wrote: Sure. No need to kick him. But we can make fun of him at the least. xDD Fair enuff ^^ | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:44 Ammanas wrote: He got the Redeye's position at ESL after Redeye stepped down. glad for him, i loved his work at wcs season 1 2013! | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:47 BlackCompany wrote: I hope NiP steps it up and still advances, specially Friberg/allu were bad.. not like the rest of the team was godlike but f0rest and get_right were doing decent most of the time at least Lurking is exceptionally hard in losing games, which sucks for G_R | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:48 Djzapz wrote: Lurking is exceptionally hard in losing games, which sucks for G_R Yeah true but he was getting his kills still. Not as good of course but some As i said, i hope they all step it up and beat which team they face next | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:44 Mensol wrote: tme to get rid of allu and natu. might as well disband completely if that is again the route the team takes. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:47 Djzapz wrote: What would kicking allu even accomplish anyway, definitely don't do that over one single atrocious game. You could slap Olofmeister in Allu's space and NiP still couldn't get shit done because the problems run much deeper than that. And I'm a huge NiP fanboy I think most NiP fans realize Allu isn't the problem. The problems is that NiP simply have nothing which puts them ahead of top teams at the moment. No brilliant tactics, no great shot caller, forest and GTR aren't going godlike anymore etc | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:50 Grettin wrote: might as well disband completely if that is again the route the team takes. The issue is all the other notable Swedish players are locked up in Fnatic. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:53 Ysellian wrote: I think most NiP fans realize Allu isn't the problem. The problems is that NiP simply have nothing which puts them ahead of top teams at the moment. No brilliant tactics, no great shot caller, forest and GTR aren't going godlike anymore etc I'm largely of the opinion that most NiP fans still think that NiP players are the best, fastest and smartest, but are temporarily inconvenienced by bad luck .I'm thinking that serious shit will happen if they don't step up their game for the rest of the tournament. I'm guessing the org is not going to let this pass. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34167 Posts
maybe its because the competition just raised the bar ? I mean tactically NiP its just not good enough, their strategies are just not up to par to teams like TSM, Fnatic and nV and they can even be challenged by tier2 teams. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
 Fucking pause | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:57 Djzapz wrote: I'm largely of the opinion that most NiP fans still think that NiP players are the best, fastest and smartest, but are temporarily inconvenienced by bad luck .I'm thinking that serious shit will happen if they don't step up their game for the rest of the tournament. I'm guessing the org is not going to let this pass. Well at least I'm not that delusional and I'm a NIP fan On August 21 2015 01:03 Djzapz wrote: From my perspective it's not just that their opponents have raised the bar (which does play a role too). They also miss more shots, especially f0rest, who seems to have trouble landing shots that he'd have before. GTR's problem is an extension of that... It's a lot easier to think about the lurker when you're rocking a 5v4 or 5v3 because friberg and f0rest like to stick their heads out and get picked because they're no longer the fastest and the most accurate shots in the west.. I'm a bit biased because I've been a f0rest fanboy since 1.6, but yeah it feels like he isn't landing the shots as well as he used to. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 21 2015 00:57 Faruko wrote: f0resnt and gtr are just shadows of their former self, its jinda sad, obviously the potential is there but theres something just not clicking on them maybe its because the competition just raised the bar ? I mean tactically NiP its just not good enough, their strategies are just not up to par to teams like TSM, Fnatic and nV and they can even be challenged by tier2 teams. From my perspective it's not just that their opponents have raised the bar (which does play a role too). They also miss more shots, especially f0rest, who seems to have trouble landing shots that he'd have before. GTR's problem is an extension of that... It's a lot easier to think about the lurker when you're rocking a 5v4 or 5v3 because friberg and f0rest like to stick their heads out and get picked because they're no longer the fastest and the most accurate shots in the west. And this is because they get flashed and smoked and molotov'd out of their spots, which didn't happen as much in the NiP era, when every team was going for picks. Perhaps the reason why I feel like f0rest is not hitting shots he used to be able to hit is that the shots are actually harder due to the fact that now NiP is flashed all the fucking time and their counterflashes are dirt. | ||
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