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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
July 03 2015 16:53 GMT
#281
OMG C9 2:0ed nV ???
It's still happening. The Matrix has turned upside down.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 17:00:06
July 03 2015 16:59 GMT
#282
P90 new meta?

edit: but get rekt lol :D
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Swampflare
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1201 Posts
July 03 2015 17:02 GMT
#283
Just tuned in. C9 2-0 EnVy? Hell of a tournament. Good play from keyd, 2-2 on Ts.
Liquipedia<FO-nTTaX> so i ordered a pizza to my house in the pizza service next to me and let them deliver [me] with the pizza
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
July 03 2015 17:11 GMT
#284
Twitch chat is hilarious lol
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
July 03 2015 17:26 GMT
#285
Come on Keyd! I was hoping for at least 5 rounds on T side. This might be a tough mountain to climb right now.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Twoflowers
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany241 Posts
July 03 2015 17:28 GMT
#286
On July 04 2015 02:26 climax wrote:
Come on Keyd! I was hoping for at least 5 rounds on T side. This might be a tough mountain to climb right now.


5 wins against Fnatic on T-side on inferno would have been pretty good.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
July 03 2015 17:39 GMT
#287
How many times have Fnatic won 3v5 situations? They are so good at it, and Olof the beast is almost always one of the guys pulling it off.
"NO" -Has
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 03 2015 17:54 GMT
#288
On July 03 2015 22:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 16:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I can see arguments for and against that TSM shoul just have been more prepared then they would advance in the turnament.

Often when people discuss BO1 vs BO3 the discussion goes on that the better team has more probability to advance. This is, to me, not the issue! The better team always advances , EOD.

However, to me, the big fucking problem with BO1 formats like this is that you get to see your favorite or top team play 2, only 2, maps. And then its over, done. And this also goes for the lesser teams who have probably prepared and worked their ass off to get to the turnament and perform well, and then a team like luminosity also plays just two maps. It must be so frustrating. And for a viewer it is almost like a joke.


Well the better team that match advances, sure.
The problem is that in a bo1 the better team isn't necessarily the better team overall.
There isn't really a format where we can 100% say that the overall better team won, but the more maps are played the better obviously.
bo3 is just the best format, it's possible timewise and way superior to bo1 to have the better team advancing.
If we now get three bo3 matches where the eu teams wins 2:0 you will see what i meant with "it's bad for the viewers"


Still, the argument is terrible. When will the better team win? Bo3, bo5 bo7? In Dota its BO7 i think and so in SC2? It is equal to all.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Swampflare
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1201 Posts
July 03 2015 18:00 GMT
#289
TK into defuse? o-okay
Liquipedia<FO-nTTaX> so i ordered a pizza to my house in the pizza service next to me and let them deliver [me] with the pizza
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 03 2015 18:16 GMT
#290
On July 04 2015 02:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 22:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 03 2015 16:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I can see arguments for and against that TSM shoul just have been more prepared then they would advance in the turnament.

Often when people discuss BO1 vs BO3 the discussion goes on that the better team has more probability to advance. This is, to me, not the issue! The better team always advances , EOD.

However, to me, the big fucking problem with BO1 formats like this is that you get to see your favorite or top team play 2, only 2, maps. And then its over, done. And this also goes for the lesser teams who have probably prepared and worked their ass off to get to the turnament and perform well, and then a team like luminosity also plays just two maps. It must be so frustrating. And for a viewer it is almost like a joke.


Well the better team that match advances, sure.
The problem is that in a bo1 the better team isn't necessarily the better team overall.
There isn't really a format where we can 100% say that the overall better team won, but the more maps are played the better obviously.
bo3 is just the best format, it's possible timewise and way superior to bo1 to have the better team advancing.
If we now get three bo3 matches where the eu teams wins 2:0 you will see what i meant with "it's bad for the viewers"


Still, the argument is terrible. When will the better team win? Bo3, bo5 bo7? In Dota its BO7 i think and so in SC2? It is equal to all.

It's not terrible and there is no definite number of games which will make 100% sure that the better team wins. (as i said already)
The point is that bo3 is clearly superior AND doable in a tournament setting.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Twoflowers
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany241 Posts
July 03 2015 18:32 GMT
#291
2.61 k/d for Olofmeister on train...
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 03 2015 18:45 GMT
#292
On July 04 2015 03:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 02:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
On July 03 2015 22:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 03 2015 16:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I can see arguments for and against that TSM shoul just have been more prepared then they would advance in the turnament.

Often when people discuss BO1 vs BO3 the discussion goes on that the better team has more probability to advance. This is, to me, not the issue! The better team always advances , EOD.

However, to me, the big fucking problem with BO1 formats like this is that you get to see your favorite or top team play 2, only 2, maps. And then its over, done. And this also goes for the lesser teams who have probably prepared and worked their ass off to get to the turnament and perform well, and then a team like luminosity also plays just two maps. It must be so frustrating. And for a viewer it is almost like a joke.


Well the better team that match advances, sure.
The problem is that in a bo1 the better team isn't necessarily the better team overall.
There isn't really a format where we can 100% say that the overall better team won, but the more maps are played the better obviously.
bo3 is just the best format, it's possible timewise and way superior to bo1 to have the better team advancing.
If we now get three bo3 matches where the eu teams wins 2:0 you will see what i meant with "it's bad for the viewers"


Still, the argument is terrible. When will the better team win? Bo3, bo5 bo7? In Dota its BO7 i think and so in SC2? It is equal to all.

It's not terrible and there is no definite number of games which will make 100% sure that the better team wins. (as i said already)
The point is that bo3 is clearly superior AND doable in a tournament setting.


The argument is terrible because people like you make an ultimate statement like BO3 is supperior. It is ONLY supperior if you want the teams that are slow starters, that are more skilled maybe aimwise to win.

What happened at this turnament was teams that clearly prepared specific strats against other teams. E.g. C9 vs NV.
That is more possible in a BO1, which to me makes BO1 sometimes more interesting becuase new, "sniper" strats are made. Like in BW. So in this regard BO1 is more superior and interesting.

I still agree playing 2 maps and going out is bad, but saying BO3 is clearly better is just to narrow minded.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 03 2015 19:42 GMT
#293
On July 04 2015 03:45 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 03:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 04 2015 02:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
On July 03 2015 22:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 03 2015 16:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I can see arguments for and against that TSM shoul just have been more prepared then they would advance in the turnament.

Often when people discuss BO1 vs BO3 the discussion goes on that the better team has more probability to advance. This is, to me, not the issue! The better team always advances , EOD.

However, to me, the big fucking problem with BO1 formats like this is that you get to see your favorite or top team play 2, only 2, maps. And then its over, done. And this also goes for the lesser teams who have probably prepared and worked their ass off to get to the turnament and perform well, and then a team like luminosity also plays just two maps. It must be so frustrating. And for a viewer it is almost like a joke.


Well the better team that match advances, sure.
The problem is that in a bo1 the better team isn't necessarily the better team overall.
There isn't really a format where we can 100% say that the overall better team won, but the more maps are played the better obviously.
bo3 is just the best format, it's possible timewise and way superior to bo1 to have the better team advancing.
If we now get three bo3 matches where the eu teams wins 2:0 you will see what i meant with "it's bad for the viewers"


Still, the argument is terrible. When will the better team win? Bo3, bo5 bo7? In Dota its BO7 i think and so in SC2? It is equal to all.

It's not terrible and there is no definite number of games which will make 100% sure that the better team wins. (as i said already)
The point is that bo3 is clearly superior AND doable in a tournament setting.


The argument is terrible because people like you make an ultimate statement like BO3 is supperior. It is ONLY supperior if you want the teams that are slow starters, that are more skilled maybe aimwise to win.

What happened at this turnament was teams that clearly prepared specific strats against other teams. E.g. C9 vs NV.
That is more possible in a BO1, which to me makes BO1 sometimes more interesting becuase new, "sniper" strats are made. Like in BW. So in this regard BO1 is more superior and interesting.

I still agree playing 2 maps and going out is bad, but saying BO3 is clearly better is just to narrow minded.

Bo3 is clearly better. If only for the fact that we get to see more matchs.
And then its also vastly superior because it promotes consistency and overall the better teams. Is this really up for discussion?

I would go even further. In a tournament where we only have 8 teams for 4 days, round robin should be bo3s, and semi-finals and final should be bo5s ideally. More than enough time for this, and overall way better for the spectators and the players (get the show more).
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
July 03 2015 22:09 GMT
#294
Why C9 is half naked?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 03 2015 23:02 GMT
#295
Just saw results.



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, C9 2-0'ed nV, AHAHAH
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
July 04 2015 05:25 GMT
#296
On July 04 2015 07:09 Laserist wrote:
Why C9 is half naked?

Most likely because it's 35 degrees Celsius in Germany right now.
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 04 2015 07:06 GMT
#297
On July 04 2015 14:25 hymn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 07:09 Laserist wrote:
Why C9 is half naked?

Most likely because it's 35 degrees Celsius in Germany right now.


Or maybe simply because they have something to show off.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 04 2015 14:19 GMT
#298
C9 pov stream already golden.

http://www.twitch.tv/esl_pov1 tune in boys, fuck the main cast
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
July 04 2015 14:29 GMT
#299
so sexy graphics, haven't noticed this thread till now
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 04 2015 14:39 GMT
#300
Sean the mastermind
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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