• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:12
CEST 15:12
KST 22:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202538Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up4LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up How to leave Master league - bug fix? Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION TO CRYPTO RECOVERY WITH PRO Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 669 users

ESL ESEA Pro League LAN Finals - Page 11

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 29 Next All
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
July 03 2015 00:01 GMT
#201
Regardless of bo1 shit this is still a huge accomplishment for NA CS. I hope CLG takes it home.
cava!
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
July 03 2015 07:51 GMT
#202
It's just not that big of an upset really, as it was BO1. But I am not taking anything away from the winners. Buuuuuut....
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 03 2015 07:58 GMT
#203
I can see arguments for and against that TSM shoul just have been more prepared then they would advance in the turnament.

Often when people discuss BO1 vs BO3 the discussion goes on that the better team has more probability to advance. This is, to me, not the issue! The better team always advances , EOD.

However, to me, the big fucking problem with BO1 formats like this is that you get to see your favorite or top team play 2, only 2, maps. And then its over, done. And this also goes for the lesser teams who have probably prepared and worked their ass off to get to the turnament and perform well, and then a team like luminosity also plays just two maps. It must be so frustrating. And for a viewer it is almost like a joke.

ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Latringuden
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden79 Posts
July 03 2015 09:07 GMT
#204
I'd be upset about losing the "better" teams this early if fnatic and TSM only had a chance to play each other once every year or something. But since they've played like 9 maps against eachother only in the last month I really don't care. It's more exciting that the NA scene has been improving and I wonder if they can keep up past the bo1's. If the rest of the tournament is EU walking all over NA I'm gonna be disapointed. If they can compete we're in for one of the most exciting tournaments of the year.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
July 03 2015 13:19 GMT
#205
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 03 2015 13:26 GMT
#206
On July 03 2015 16:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I can see arguments for and against that TSM shoul just have been more prepared then they would advance in the turnament.

Often when people discuss BO1 vs BO3 the discussion goes on that the better team has more probability to advance. This is, to me, not the issue! The better team always advances , EOD.

However, to me, the big fucking problem with BO1 formats like this is that you get to see your favorite or top team play 2, only 2, maps. And then its over, done. And this also goes for the lesser teams who have probably prepared and worked their ass off to get to the turnament and perform well, and then a team like luminosity also plays just two maps. It must be so frustrating. And for a viewer it is almost like a joke.


Well the better team that match advances, sure.
The problem is that in a bo1 the better team isn't necessarily the better team overall.
There isn't really a format where we can 100% say that the overall better team won, but the more maps are played the better obviously.
bo3 is just the best format, it's possible timewise and way superior to bo1 to have the better team advancing.
If we now get three bo3 matches where the eu teams wins 2:0 you will see what i meant with "it's bad for the viewers"
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 03 2015 13:31 GMT
#207
Can we start fuck
WriterXiao8~~
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 03 2015 13:46 GMT
#208
Time to see how NA do in a Bo3.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
July 03 2015 13:53 GMT
#209
Good to see NA teams succeed, it means I can take advantage of POV stream.
Hello World!
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 13:58:25
July 03 2015 13:54 GMT
#210
Yeah I don't even bother watching the main stream since there is real passion on the pov stream.
Here are the streams if you're interested:
http://www.twitch.tv/esl_pov1
http://www.twitch.tv/esl_pov2
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
July 03 2015 14:02 GMT
#211
C9 POV here I come. I want veggie wraps and olof spots all day.

Since I hate the french, I'm gonna go with US.

+ Show Spoiler +
Actually I am quarter french, I like France, but I want to see US prevail for once
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
July 03 2015 14:11 GMT
#212
How did the first map go? No updates whatsoever here? Or did they not start yet (watching HSC currently, so I have no clue)?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 14:14:02
July 03 2015 14:13 GMT
#213
First map starting now. It's Dust2.
Hello World!
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
July 03 2015 14:14 GMT
#214
It's just about to start. First map de_Dust2.

Next maps:
de_Train
de_Cache
(not in order)
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 14:32:40
July 03 2015 14:32 GMT
#215
Dem deagles.
JUAAAAAN!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 03 2015 14:32 GMT
#216
damn these deagle rounds <3
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
July 03 2015 14:32 GMT
#217
"Stop being fucking pussies on A"
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 03 2015 14:33 GMT
#218
On July 03 2015 23:32 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
"Stop being fucking pussies on A"

huh?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 14:36:43
July 03 2015 14:36 GMT
#219
On July 03 2015 23:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 23:32 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
"Stop being fucking pussies on A"

huh?

Check out Cloud9 POV stream. Their IGL did NOT approve of that Juan round. http://www.twitch.tv/esl_pov1
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 03 2015 14:39 GMT
#220
On July 03 2015 23:36 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 23:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 03 2015 23:32 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
"Stop being fucking pussies on A"

huh?

Check out Cloud9 POV stream. Their IGL did NOT approve of that Juan round. http://www.twitch.tv/esl_pov1

Oh i see, i would be more interested in the envy side of things, but my french isn't good enough, haha
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
Mondays #46
WardiTV722
Harstem419
Rex122
CranKy Ducklings92
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 419
Lowko230
Rex 122
ProTech53
Codebar 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35067
Calm 5326
Sea 3130
Horang2 2922
Shuttle 2702
Flash 1681
ggaemo 1365
hero 1092
EffOrt 1020
Barracks 1008
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 557
actioN 521
Mini 449
Larva 386
BeSt 354
Zeus 300
Soma 284
Soulkey 279
Pusan 228
ZerO 214
Mong 187
Snow 176
TY 137
Rush 126
Mind 96
Nal_rA 87
Movie 64
Sea.KH 61
Sharp 50
sSak 50
soO 37
JulyZerg 34
sorry 31
[sc1f]eonzerg 30
sas.Sziky 24
scan(afreeca) 18
Terrorterran 12
Bale 11
IntoTheRainbow 5
910 4
Dota 2
Dendi2639
Gorgc1371
qojqva1368
XcaliburYe493
KheZu468
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2879
ScreaM2748
x6flipin566
flusha255
oskar114
markeloff89
Other Games
singsing2328
B2W.Neo1432
hiko930
crisheroes372
Fuzer 259
XaKoH 167
mouzStarbuck163
Happy138
ArmadaUGS56
QueenE37
rGuardiaN32
FunKaTv 21
ZerO(Twitch)18
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1436
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 61
• davetesta26
• iHatsuTV 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV567
League of Legends
• Nemesis4601
• Jankos1330
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
2h 48m
OSC
10h 48m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
21h 48m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 1h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 10h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 21h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.