Total War: Warhammer - Page 89

On November 22 2017 00:26 Meta wrote:
I have the option to go for a non-aggression pact with Varg as Empire in my current legendary campaign. It would cost a lot of money but I have positive standing with them due to an extensive war against VC. Should I go for it? It would suck if they just declared war as soon as chaos invasions come.

I'm on turn 75.

On November 22 2017 00:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Finished my first ME campaign with HE. I think i enjoyed game 1 grand campaign more. Lustria / Southlands feel very unfleshed imo. Also racial imbalance mean dwarves just steamrolled the south east, lizardmen lustria, and me the rest. Fought some vampires in Sylvania, but they were super marginal. Skaven never did anything else than die. Didn’t fight one battle with the greenskins.

The campaign has tremendous potential but we need Norsca, Tomb Kings and hopefully Tilea with some New World colonies before it really feels like a finished product. For me it doesn’t at this stage.

I don’t really like playing as Ulthuan. Being on an island is not very fun, especially with the Chaos bitches spawning in the middle of the ocean. I had four defensive doomstacks in Teclis islands and north Ulthuan, and some armies raping Naggarond and later the eastern empire.

The long campaign makes 0 sense on normal (yup i’m a noob). I guess when ai is super aggressive and you need to fight dwarves for Karaz a Karak or wood elves for Athel Loren, it can be really fun, but the grand alliance of all good factions (tm) meant for a super dull endgame. I was constantly building new doomstacks and still had 20k surplus by the end, and was just waiting for my armies to reach Lahmia or whatever it’s called.

Probably going back to TWWH1 until they flesh that out. The potential is huge, but right now it feels a bit underwhelming.

On November 22 2017 05:57 Manit0u wrote:
The biggest problem is with TWWH (both of them) is "the hurdle". Once you overcome it the game simply becomes a boring grind. That's one thing I can agree on with LegendOfTotalWar: they should inverse the difficulty. As it is, the game is super hard in the beginning and a breeze in the end game. It should be the opposite, you should be able to establish 2-3 provinces fairly easily but late game should be punishing as hell with basically 0 chances to autoresolve battles.

On November 22 2017 08:32 xDaunt wrote:
I played a little further in my Empire campaign, and I have a question for y'all. It's turn 156, and I just wiped out WoC, triggering the Age of Peace. I own Kislev, the Empire territories, most of the Dwarfholds in the north, Tilea, Estalia, and the Border Prince territories. The Wood Elves are the number one faction (I'm 3) and control their home territories, half of Bretonnia, and are rapidly conquering the Badlands. I just bribed them into war with the Cult of Pleasure (number 2 faction), who owns all of the Dark Elf territories and Ulthuan. Lothern is all but dead. At some point, I'll need to invade the Southlands to complete long campaign objectives. I'd like to personally control Lothern, if not a good chunk of Ulthuan as well. I have 8 armies (3 are doomstacks, 5 are full stacks of halberdiers, handgunners, and hellblasters). I'll need to dedicate 3 of those for defense (one stack in Kislev, one stack in Marienburg, and one stack in Tilea/Border Princes). Leaving me 5 stacks for offensive operations.

Here's the question: Do I invade Ulthuan now or go into the Southlands?

I'd really like to take the Southlands because it has the best climate and will most easily allow me to expand. I'd also really like to see the Dark Elves beat up on the Wood Elves and knock them down a few pegs. However, I want to control Lothern and other parts of Ulthuan as a staging ground for invading Naggarond, and I don't like the idea of the Wood Elves going ape shit and wiping out the Dark Elves without me being involved. So I guess the real question is, who wins the CPU auto-resolve battle: Dark Elves or Wood Elves?

On November 22 2017 06:05 Gorsameth wrote:

Its a common problem in 4x games and I don't really know of any game that really solves it.

In WH:1 they had the chaos events to give a lategame difficulty bump.
In WH:2 they tried (but failed imo) with the chaos stacks that spawn on ritual casts.
Total War: Shogun 2 had realm divide, where literally everyone, including eventually your allies, would unity against you at a certain point.

On November 22 2017 06:05 Gorsameth wrote:

Its a common problem in 4x games and I don't really know of any game that really solves it.

In WH:1 they had the chaos events to give a lategame difficulty bump.
In WH:2 they tried (but failed imo) with the chaos stacks that spawn on ritual casts.
Total War: Shogun 2 had realm divide, where literally everyone, including eventually your allies, would unity against you at a certain point.

On November 23 2017 03:05 Plansix wrote:

They need to refine the rituals and add more random events. One of the strengths of Stellaris is that it has like 4-7 terrible late game that might spawn and try to kill everyone. This game needs a full blown greenskin explosion, skaven explosion explosion and return of the nightmare undead all to be things that could happen in the end game. I'll even take an arrival of genocidal high elves high on Caine Blood.

On November 23 2017 03:16 Gorsameth wrote:

Yeah I thought about Stellaris later and its one of the few of these systems I actually like.

WH:1 is fun a for a bit but it gets boring if you do the campaign a bunch of times.
totaly not a fan of WH:2 or Shogun.

On November 23 2017 01:18 B.I.G. wrote:
Karly French is back with a vengeance. Having been taunted again and again by Surtha Ek he chased him and his gang of chariot outlaws through Norsca itself, razing every settlement he came across. The chaos corruption and bad weather slowed him down to a crawl though...

MEANWHILE, IN THE SOUTH, the border princes, the remaining Wissenland rebels, and the one of the minor dwarf factions are raiding Karl's glorious empire and even conquering several settlements. Balthasar Gelt and co. have been having serious work outs running around after these rebellious rascals in guerilla hit and run warfare... And this seemingly minor disctraction was proving to have bigger consequences because...

MEANWHILE, IN BRETTONIA, the military absence lured the treacherous tileans to invade while the wood elves all confederated and mobilized their army. As if that wasn't bad enough Teclis decided Brettonia could use some democracy and went full D-Day on me. Being the no.2 or 3 power at the time he sent 3 stacks to invade all over the Brettonian coast while the Tileans were nipping at my heels in what used to be fay enchantress county. Volky G and Balthazar had to travel all the way from the northern and southern front, leaving both very much undermanned, to support the new recruits who were way in over their heads in the new Bretonnian Great War. In the end, managed to expel the High Elves and the Tileans, and prepared to send Volkmar on a revenge mission to Ulthuan while Balthazar had to return to the southern front as the Border Princes were actually starting to get a foothold north of the mountains seperating them from the Empire.

Up north Karl had chased off Surtha Ek into the Chaos wastes and apparently going insane in the process (-5 to public order FML). However, Volky G + 2 doomstacks had managed to gain a foothold in Ulthuan after some epic battles so it was time for Karl to leave the Norscans to lick their wounds and sail off to Ulthuan.

Fast forward a couple dozen turns and Ulthuan has been all but conquered, the border princes and the other minor southern factions broken, and peace has been made with what is left of the rabble. Balthazar returned once again to Brettonia to join 2 other doomstacks and wiped out all the wood elves. Apart from having to mop up some rebellious remnants peace seemed to have returned to Karl's glorious empire of 80+ settlements and 10 armies.

Just as I was about to call it a day news from the northern front came in... Surtha Ek is back with several armies of chariots and my 2 rookie armies up north seem to be outmatched. Our conquering of Ulthuan has put us on the radar of the Dark Elves and although Morathi seems to like Karl's High Elf butchering ways Malekith is having none of it and is gearing up for war. In the south, war with the Border Princes is turning relations with the dwarves sour. The same dwarves that conquered the entire Badlands and the majority of Araby and the Southlands, putting them solidly into the no.1 power rank. Oh boy.

On November 23 2017 03:51 Archeon wrote:
@lategame: I'd like to see nations confederating more and more the later the game goes and have a scripted event that randoms 1-2 nations and makes them super-powerful. The ME map is big enough that you can't really keep all of them small. Like take non-player power#1 and multiply their eco by 2 in turn 100/150. Does the Ai have an economy?

If CA wants to spend more resources they could fluff those a bit more out depending on the nation.

What I think they'll do is split chaos in 4 in TWW3 and rework doom tide depending on the Chaos god.


Why does your game sound like so much fun while my Morathi game feels like it's over in turn 70 after I conquered Ulthuan? Am I calling quits too early? Or is it just the narrative?

Hell my game was a giant snowball since I got my second province and it was almost as late as in my Skaven campaign.

On November 23 2017 04:05 xDaunt wrote:

I think the difference is that the real action in the Mortal Empires campaign occurs in the Old World. There's a higher concentration of potential super powers over there than in the New World.