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BravoScripT.DK
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark230 Posts
June 01 2015 08:32 GMT
#401
On June 01 2015 17:26 Nagisama wrote:
Friendly fire protection if you shot him right in the beginning of the round is auto kick no matter how little damage you do.


It was late in the round, 2v2 bomb plant scenario
Zerg all the wayz
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
June 01 2015 09:22 GMT
#402
On June 01 2015 08:12 waffelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 06:13 iXphobos wrote:
You dropped 4 50 Bombs in a row on SMFC?
If you're sure about that, you should go and find a pro Team immediatly.


Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 05:24 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Sounds like all your issues would be solved if you played with friends/in a team instead of soloQ? Shouldn't have any problem finding a team if you really drop 50 bombs at SMFC level :p


Said nowhere it was constantly, just the streak before my post. No need to hold a gruge, just accept that there will always be someone who is better than you without much effort, as long as you arent playing on the very top. Last game we got wrecked 16-3 and I went 10-4-17, feel better now? Also, just do the math: 16:14 / 15:15 etc - 30 rounds. Thats not even 2 kills per round. It wasnt a brag post, I was just stating that I was doing ok, while my team performing very bad/some of them, sometimes even on purpose.

If you want a brag: I played 1.6 on a level where I even earned money from it. So it would be pretty pathetic if my aim would suck.

About teaming up with friends/clan: Yeah sure, If my friends wouldnt a) be goddamn awful, b)be hughe ragers or c)usually dont have time when I play It would work well. c) also make a team pretty much impossible. Sometimes i cant play for more than a week. This also means that I am awful most of the time. I have decent aim/prefire and communication, thats it, and it is stupid how far you come with that. And not doing stupid shit/playing brainless like always doing the same thing etc.. Outside of my semester break, I fuck up most of my nades etc. because I dont have the time to practice them. I am also only able to play on dust2, mirage and cache, with mirage being my favorite map.

Yeah I shouldnt solo-queue, but I dont have any real alternative. I should just quit GO, but even though it disapoints me so much, it also reminds me of a lot of things I loved about 1.6

Just ignore my rants if they annoy you, but dont try to act smart about it. TL would be pretty odd choice to bragg about your cs-skill, dont you think? Anyway, apologies when I sound to harsh, I should have stopped playing after my last rant -.-

EDIT: Also, just think starcraft. If you are not GM, you arent that. Same thing goes for GO.


Jeez man, nobody was 'acting smart'. I was simply suggesting to not soloQ as it seems that is the root of all your problems you described. No need to go on a huge brag/rant. And 50 bombs are simply very very rare at ALL levels of CS, so when someone claims to get them 4 times in a row at very high level of MM, people raise eyebrows.

Anyways, you mention there's reasons why you're playing soloQ (a little ironic that you call all your friends huge ragers in a post like that haha) so constructively speaking, the only option I could come up with to improve your experience would be to add people that were at least decent or okay in soloQ whenever you come across some and then just mass invite whenever you want to play. So it's not an actual 'team' but at least a 3-stack or whatever?
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 09:24:07
June 01 2015 09:22 GMT
#403
On June 01 2015 08:12 waffelz wrote:
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On June 01 2015 06:13 iXphobos wrote:
You dropped 4 50 Bombs in a row on SMFC?
If you're sure about that, you should go and find a pro Team immediatly.


On June 01 2015 05:24 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Sounds like all your issues would be solved if you played with friends/in a team instead of soloQ? Shouldn't have any problem finding a team if you really drop 50 bombs at SMFC level :p


Said nowhere it was constantly, just the streak before my post. No need to hold a gruge, just accept that there will always be someone who is better than you without much effort, as long as you arent playing on the very top. Last game we got wrecked 16-3 and I went 10-4-17, feel better now? Also, just do the math: 16:14 / 15:15 etc - 30 rounds. Thats not even 2 kills per round. It wasnt a brag post, I was just stating that I was doing ok, while my team performing very bad/some of them, sometimes even on purpose.

If you want a brag: I played 1.6 on a level where I even earned money from it. So it would be pretty pathetic if my aim would suck.

About teaming up with friends/clan: Yeah sure, If my friends wouldnt a) be goddamn awful, b)be hughe ragers or c)usually dont have time when I play It would work well. c) also make a team pretty much impossible. Sometimes i cant play for more than a week. This also means that I am awful most of the time. I have decent aim/prefire and communication, thats it, and it is stupid how far you come with that. And not doing stupid shit/playing brainless like always doing the same thing etc.. Outside of my semester break, I fuck up most of my nades etc. because I dont have the time to practice them. I am also only able to play on dust2, mirage and cache, with mirage being my favorite map.

Yeah I shouldnt solo-queue, but I dont have any real alternative. I should just quit GO, but even though it disapoints me so much, it also reminds me of a lot of things I loved about 1.6

Just ignore my rants if they annoy you, but dont try to act smart about it. TL would be pretty odd choice to bragg about your cs-skill, dont you think? Anyway, apologies when I sound to harsh, I should have stopped playing after my last rant -.-

EDIT: Also, just think starcraft. If you are not GM, you arent that. Same thing goes for GO.

Hey, thanks for the "in case of"- rant.
No need to defend youself. This isn't HLTV. xD
I was actually impressed by that, that's all. Thanks for the insight though.
Considering your frustration right now you should maybe try and find some high level players to play with (maybe from TL ) to avoid that solo queue.

Edit: Aah, NIhiL too fast.^^
Amorphous
Profile Joined April 2015
United States6 Posts
June 01 2015 14:15 GMT
#404
Man, I'm sure this isn't really a unique experience at all but the peaks and valleys I experience from game to game are remarkable. My play is just wildly inconsistent whether I warm up or not. It's like either I can't miss or I can't hit anything at all.

I'm also finding it pretty hard (only really about 50-60 hours in I'd say) to be confident with both the AK and m4 simultaneously. Used to think up until a few days ago the m4 was my strong suit, so I spent a bunch of time in recoil master with the AK, and now I struggle with the m4. Frustrating? Yeah. Amusing? A little bit.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
June 01 2015 14:17 GMT
#405
On June 01 2015 23:15 Amorphous wrote:
I'm also finding it pretty hard (only really about 50-60 hours in I'd say) to be confident with both the AK and m4 simultaneously. Used to think up until a few days ago the m4 was my strong suit, so I spent a bunch of time in recoil master with the AK, and now I struggle with the m4. Frustrating? Yeah. Amusing? A little bit.


That happens to me too, a LOT. First I started practicing the M4A1-s for a long time and felt super good with it back in Gold Nova. Then I started practicing the AK instead and it all shifted, I got better at the AK but started to lose skill with the M4A1-s. And now I've switched to the M4A4 anyways and it's a bit better because it's more similar to the AK in terms of recoil! So maybe try that. But that's definitely normal what you're going through haha.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
June 01 2015 16:01 GMT
#406
On June 01 2015 18:22 iXphobos wrote:
Hey, thanks for the "in case of"- rant.
No need to defend youself. This isn't HLTV. xD
I was actually impressed by that, that's all. Thanks for the insight though.
Considering your frustration right now you should maybe try and find some high level players to play with (maybe from TL ) to avoid that solo queue.

Edit: Aah, NIhiL too fast.^^


On June 01 2015 18:22 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
[Jeez man, nobody was 'acting smart'. I was simply suggesting to not soloQ as it seems that is the root of all your problems you described. No need to go on a huge brag/rant. And 50 bombs are simply very very rare at ALL levels of CS, so when someone claims to get them 4 times in a row at very high level of MM, people raise eyebrows.

Anyways, you mention there's reasons why you're playing soloQ (a little ironic that you call all your friends huge ragers in a post like that haha) so constructively speaking, the only option I could come up with to improve your experience would be to add people that were at least decent or okay in soloQ whenever you come across some and then just mass invite whenever you want to play. So it's not an actual 'team' but at least a 3-stack or whatever?


Yeah, just sorry for that stupid 'acting smart' comment. I was just over defensive and enraged from the previous matches, I am honestly sorry for that to both of you.
About the ragers/3man stack. For some reason I often encounter theese asshole-players, even when stacking up with 1 or 2 other guys. I guess it is a mixture of the time during which I play and the fact that these bad games get stuck in my brain, pushing away all those games where its fine. Also, I think I am just frustrated because my argument could be turned around easilie, If I had steped up just a little bit more in key rounds, we also might have won, so yeah. I just very bad at dealing with people that knowingly ruin the experience for others, even embracing it, cause they got their smurfs and dont care about the cooldown.I also get annoyed that I play in a (supposed) high league while feeling like a scrub who just got nice aim and reflexes. I dont know, should let go of my 1.6 past.
About the rage stuff, while my post was highly rage induced, I never rage ingame. When I get higjly annoyed, my calls just get way calmer and I overall get a very apathetic voice, I dont do jokes anyome and lose my enthusiasm. My headshot-rate seriously spikes up also lol. Thats it. I never start to blame others, I dont troll, I dont micspam or ask for a surrender. When talking about ragers, I mean those guys that callout everyone as a cheater who just luckshoted them, caught them at an unsuaalk angle, the guys that blaming their team while being at teh bottom of the scoreboard, 20points behind the next player.

But yeah, my last post was seriously rage induced, not in a ironic way that previous ones where. I will just step back from GO for some time, because I realized I am basicly pulled a Idra here, and you never want to pull a Idra
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
June 01 2015 16:27 GMT
#407
Don't worry, it's the QQ thread after all. You're a long way off from pulling an Idra haha. But yeah, do try and get into a team, man, that would help you I'm sure.
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 19:22:24
June 01 2015 19:22 GMT
#408
On June 01 2015 17:26 Nagisama wrote:
Friendly fire protection if you shot him right in the beginning of the round is auto kick no matter how little damage you do.


Not always though. I play with a friend who tends to shoot people in the head at the start of the round and he usually does not get kicked unless it counts as a kill. Maybe on certain rounds it is true.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
June 02 2015 12:01 GMT
#409
On June 02 2015 04:22 porkRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 17:26 Nagisama wrote:
Friendly fire protection if you shot him right in the beginning of the round is auto kick no matter how little damage you do.


Not always though. I play with a friend who tends to shoot people in the head at the start of the round and he usually does not get kicked unless it counts as a kill. Maybe on certain rounds it is true.


You have to kill at spawn afaik for instant kick. In pistol rounds, close headshot is a sure kill anyways maybe that was the case.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8260 Posts
June 03 2015 17:22 GMT
#410
Oh, how incredibly fucking fun it is to meet GE on their smurf accounts. Pretty much impossible to decide wether they're telling the truth or hacking considering the oneshot headshot every single frikkin round.

"But I want to play with my friends" Then get a frikkin 5 stack ffs! At least then you'll meet people at a reasonable rank.
b3nd3r
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany158 Posts
June 04 2015 10:28 GMT
#411
On June 02 2015 21:01 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 04:22 porkRaven wrote:
On June 01 2015 17:26 Nagisama wrote:
Friendly fire protection if you shot him right in the beginning of the round is auto kick no matter how little damage you do.


Not always though. I play with a friend who tends to shoot people in the head at the start of the round and he usually does not get kicked unless it counts as a kill. Maybe on certain rounds it is true.


You have to kill at spawn afaik for instant kick. In pistol rounds, close headshot is a sure kill anyways maybe that was the case.


1. Dealing 80/90+ damage to a teammate at start of game will be instant ban.
2. Doing a certain amount of damage to teammate(s) over the period of the whole game can get you banned. (You usually get a warning telling you that you have done a lot of damage and the next time you attack a friendly you will be quicked)

Also the System differentiates between Excessive team-killing, Excessive team-damaging and Excessive team-damaging at the start of a round to set Cooldown-Level (1-4).

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gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/110682/how-does-the-csgo-penalty-system-work
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
June 04 2015 22:00 GMT
#412
First Falchion case I opened had a shit UMP skin. Another one drops today. Whatever, lets open it. SAME. FUCKING. UMP. SKIN. What the literal fuck. Dunno why I bother opening this shitboxes.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
June 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#413
Dear talkative guy,

I appreciate when people give information after they die they are trying to be helpful. That's fine. And some of it is invaluable tactical information.

What is NOT valuable is going "please win please win please win" over and over down my ear when I'm in a 1v1 at short range and armed with an AWP. In such circumstances I need my full concentration to try to pull out the round win. You yelling down my ear means I can't hear the opponent running which reduces my chances of winning.

Whilst I appreciate and fully endorse the sentiment "please win" your constant talking makes it much, much less likely.

Regards,
Celestial
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
June 06 2015 16:24 GMT
#414
CT teams that push out constantly and get shit on, holy fuck please stop. Had one game where we got stomped because I think they were simply better than us, but people would constantly rush out long and get killed, or the guy watching short would push out onto cat for no reason and get killed, or people watching B would rush tunnels and get killed. You think "ok, after a couple times they will stop". NOPE. They do it every round and just tell me to stfu when I ask them to just defend and stop pushing.

It's like they have the brains of a goldfish and just forgot what happened last round so they just kept doing the same thing and dying >_>
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
June 07 2015 13:37 GMT
#415
Haha, I actually hate it when people tell me to stop pushing. I wont hold it against people if they like to hold corners and angles, so Id like it if they wouldnt hold it against me that I like to go for frags and information. Especially the russians who sometimes don´t seem like they know any other sentences in english than "dont peak".
"NO" -Has
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8260 Posts
June 07 2015 13:58 GMT
#416
On June 07 2015 22:37 kyllinghest wrote:
Haha, I actually hate it when people tell me to stop pushing. I wont hold it against people if they like to hold corners and angles, so Id like it if they wouldnt hold it against me that I like to go for frags and information. Especially the russians who sometimes don´t seem like they know any other sentences in english than "dont peak".


So you hate it when people are trying to be tactical and win the game? I know this is a QQ thread..but come on! The reason people tell you to not peak is because peaking makes you dead, especially in higher levels. If you're only interested in getting kills then competitive isn't the game mode for you
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 14:57:25
June 07 2015 14:55 GMT
#417
On June 07 2015 22:58 Excludos wrote:
So you hate it when people are trying to be tactical and win the game? I know this is a QQ thread..but come on! The reason people tell you to not peak is because peaking makes you dead, especially in higher levels. If you're only interested in getting kills then competitive isn't the game mode for you


Supreme here. Peaking wont get you killed, if you know how to do it/when to do it. You even have a few advantages through peaking when you know where to expect the enemy. Info is also pretty valueable.
Peaking every round the same way however sure does. Just like holding the same angle every round will get you prefired.

I guess it is a question of what you are more confident in. I for example are very good at peak-fights and aimduels, but dont feel very comfortable with holding angles since (I feel like) you can get picked off so easilie thanks to ADAD - without even having a chance to react, if the opponent prefired and had the right crosshairplacement. I even get so paranoid that most of the time I hold either very weird angles or even stand in the open^^.

EDIT: But please dont be that guy who peaks every round and always dies besides that one time where he suprises 3 opponents and after that you cant critisize him anymore...
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8260 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 19:53:43
June 07 2015 19:47 GMT
#418
On June 07 2015 23:55 waffelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 22:58 Excludos wrote:
So you hate it when people are trying to be tactical and win the game? I know this is a QQ thread..but come on! The reason people tell you to not peak is because peaking makes you dead, especially in higher levels. If you're only interested in getting kills then competitive isn't the game mode for you


Supreme here. Peaking wont get you killed, if you know how to do it/when to do it. You even have a few advantages through peaking when you know where to expect the enemy. Info is also pretty valueable.
Peaking every round the same way however sure does. Just like holding the same angle every round will get you prefired.

I guess it is a question of what you are more confident in. I for example are very good at peak-fights and aimduels, but dont feel very comfortable with holding angles since (I feel like) you can get picked off so easilie thanks to ADAD - without even having a chance to react, if the opponent prefired and had the right crosshairplacement. I even get so paranoid that most of the time I hold either very weird angles or even stand in the open^^.

EDIT: But please dont be that guy who peaks every round and always dies besides that one time where he suprises 3 opponents and after that you cant critisize him anymore...


Yes, obviously its not quite as black and white as I painted it to be. But people are generally way too bloodthirsty in this game. If no T has shown up within the first 20 seconds, they'll rush out to meet them. Defenders advantage in this game is absolutely huge, especially on maps like Nuke where its not entirely unnatural to win 15 rounds followed by losing 15 rounds. But every time someone gets bored and decides to peek, there's a good chance they'll get picked off, and from there it can go quickly downhill once the Ts have taken the position and given the defenders advantage to themselves.

Edit: But sitting in predetermined positions isn't always the best idea either. Good players will know where to place the crosshair before coming around the corner, and from there it's your reaction time vs how quick they can clear the corner that matters, which isn't entirely optimal. But hiding behind that crate and pop up a second after they clear the corner can be super effective, as opposed to meeting them midway in the hallway where they're ready for you.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
June 07 2015 19:59 GMT
#419
On June 08 2015 04:47 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 23:55 waffelz wrote:
On June 07 2015 22:58 Excludos wrote:
So you hate it when people are trying to be tactical and win the game? I know this is a QQ thread..but come on! The reason people tell you to not peak is because peaking makes you dead, especially in higher levels. If you're only interested in getting kills then competitive isn't the game mode for you


Supreme here. Peaking wont get you killed, if you know how to do it/when to do it. You even have a few advantages through peaking when you know where to expect the enemy. Info is also pretty valueable.
Peaking every round the same way however sure does. Just like holding the same angle every round will get you prefired.

I guess it is a question of what you are more confident in. I for example are very good at peak-fights and aimduels, but dont feel very comfortable with holding angles since (I feel like) you can get picked off so easilie thanks to ADAD - without even having a chance to react, if the opponent prefired and had the right crosshairplacement. I even get so paranoid that most of the time I hold either very weird angles or even stand in the open^^.

EDIT: But please dont be that guy who peaks every round and always dies besides that one time where he suprises 3 opponents and after that you cant critisize him anymore...


Yes, obviously its not quite as black and white as I painted it to be. But people are generally way too bloodthirsty in this game. If no T has shown up within the first 20 seconds, they'll rush out to meet them. Defenders advantage in this game is absolutely huge, especially on maps like Nuke where its not entirely unnatural to win 15 rounds followed by losing 15 rounds. But every time someone gets bored and decides to peek, there's a good chance they'll get picked off, and from there it can go quickly downhill once the Ts have taken the position and given the defenders advantage to themselves.

Edit: But sitting in predetermined positions isn't always the best idea either. Good players will know where to place the crosshair before coming around the corner, and from there it's your reaction time vs how quick they can clear the corner that matters, which isn't entirely optimal. But hiding behind that crate and pop up a second after they clear the corner can be super effective, as opposed to meeting them midway in the hallway where they're ready for you.


I once played a match where something like eight rounds in a row on Dust 2 the T side would just hold up and defend their own angles at the entry to long because literally every single round the guys on my CT side would get impatient and push forward into a crossfire.

Seriously. After four rounds of this I'm literally on the mic going "look, they keep doing the exact same thing so stop pushing and just hold your angles ffs and they'll be forced to make an entry themselves rather than you making it for them". Nope. They kept at it. -_-
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kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 21:06:44
June 07 2015 21:04 GMT
#420
On June 07 2015 22:58 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 22:37 kyllinghest wrote:
Haha, I actually hate it when people tell me to stop pushing. I wont hold it against people if they like to hold corners and angles, so Id like it if they wouldnt hold it against me that I like to go for frags and information. Especially the russians who sometimes don´t seem like they know any other sentences in english than "dont peak".


So you hate it when people are trying to be tactical and win the game? I know this is a QQ thread..but come on! The reason people tell you to not peak is because peaking makes you dead, especially in higher levels. If you're only interested in getting kills then competitive isn't the game mode for you

I am trying to be tactical and win the game, thats my point. I know im a "noob" at LEM, but going for agressive plays works wonders for me. Its not like Im rushing trough the entire map as CT, but I like to be in the terrorists faces somewhere they dont expect it.
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