• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:10
CEST 14:10
KST 21:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid21
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1836 users

General Discussion - Page 62

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 60 61 62 63 64 176 Next
Please be advised:

We will be closing this General thread in 24 hours. It will remain searchable.

After that we will require new threads to discuss topics.

Questions should go in the stickied Q&A thread, screenshots and PotG will go in the PotG sticky, QQ/Rage/Complaints should go in the QQ/Rage thread. If you want to talk about maps or strategies open a new thread.

Any comments or concerns will be logged please forward them to ZeromuS. This new forum is still fluid so we will try this out. General TL rules will still apply to new threads.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 02 2015 17:17 GMT
#1221
On November 03 2015 01:45 Kipsate wrote:
Gambling increased it esp for smaller tournies, games and even teams. But skins is what did it in general due to the vast amount of people playing csgo.

I enjoy csgo a lot and seeing fpv of people headshotting or going massive 1v2 or 1v3 still gets me hyped as well. I rarely miss anything in CSGO as a spectator admittedly partially because i play it but I also think its because the game with its round based and tactical gameplay is slow enough to see. As I stated before I worry a little about Overwatch because the gameplay is so fast, COD is just terrible to watch for me when they play domination/HQ.

However Halo was also pretty fast and a large amount of people enjoyed watching that even though I never did so I am not so sure

Because Halo is super popular on consoles where rarely any good FPS can be played.
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
November 02 2015 17:55 GMT
#1222
In the end I suspect pretty much anything that is played will also be watched. HS doesn't seem like a terribly exciting spectator sport on paper, for example. I'm sure there's some benefit to being easy to understand and follow but if it was a major factor we'd have different games as the top esport titles right now.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 02 2015 18:06 GMT
#1223
If Blizzard are smart they'll make the best spectator client we've seen to date for this game. Making it easy for even smaller organizations/teams of people to put out really high quality productions without having to break the bank, will only make their game appear better than the competition.

Things like instant replays, use of multiple screens to select observer camera/replays, auto observer mode, are the ones I can think of at the top of my head.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 02 2015 18:23 GMT
#1224
Well will they do more game modes? Without knowing what Blizz will do with the game its kinda hard to know what will happen competetively.
Off-season = best season
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-02 18:30:56
November 02 2015 18:30 GMT
#1225
On November 03 2015 03:06 salle wrote:
If Blizzard are smart they'll make the best spectator client we've seen to date for this game. Making it easy for even smaller organizations/teams of people to put out really high quality productions without having to break the bank, will only make their game appear better than the competition.

Things like instant replays, use of multiple screens to select observer camera/replays, auto observer mode, are the ones I can think of at the top of my head.


Their current one is the worst, it doesn't even have first person observing. I imagine they do have plans to fix that and ffering replay features for obsing would make sense. They already make use of that kind of functionality heavily when playing the game.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-02 18:47:17
November 02 2015 18:43 GMT
#1226
Overwatch games can be confusing due to limited vision and information, lightshows and fast pace and movement.

They should implement what salle said, but also a nice overlay and minimap to give information for viewers. The viewers should see more than the players do. The observer could toggle something like the sniper ult for one or both teams (defense or offense) visions when zoomed out. Also, some easy way to tell the teams appart.

Without this stuff it looks like a huge mess, or what it curent looks like. You see the individual plays of the streamer and suddenly victory or defeat pops. Its loses a lot of meaning and its hard to tell the cooperative tactics in the game. Losing that is a big deal since individual movement and accuracy is better in other FPS games.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 02 2015 20:20 GMT
#1227
they basically just need to steal the CS one and give it Blizzard polishing.

Really have no issue watching streamers in overwatch. But I did watch CS before they even used a minimap and they just tabbed through the players to see if something interesting was happening.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 02 2015 20:52 GMT
#1228
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
November 02 2015 21:53 GMT
#1229
On November 03 2015 02:55 nighcol wrote:
In the end I suspect pretty much anything that is played will also be watched. HS doesn't seem like a terribly exciting spectator sport on paper, for example. I'm sure there's some benefit to being easy to understand and follow but if it was a major factor we'd have different games as the top esport titles right now.


And HS is also mostly a streamer-thing.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2015 22:26 GMT
#1230
On November 03 2015 05:52 udgnim wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPDsgg9n40

That is pretty great. Glad to see someone finally dug deep into the wall running.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
November 02 2015 22:31 GMT
#1231
On November 03 2015 03:30 nighcol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 03:06 salle wrote:
If Blizzard are smart they'll make the best spectator client we've seen to date for this game. Making it easy for even smaller organizations/teams of people to put out really high quality productions without having to break the bank, will only make their game appear better than the competition.

Things like instant replays, use of multiple screens to select observer camera/replays, auto observer mode, are the ones I can think of at the top of my head.


Their current one is the worst, it doesn't even have first person observing. I imagine they do have plans to fix that and ffering replay features for obsing would make sense. They already make use of that kind of functionality heavily when playing the game.

From what I have heard they current have a hacked in getto observer function. I imagine a proper observer mode is introduced some time during the Beta.

However if you look at HotS I'm not entirely confident. Mostly I think its important if Blizzard is working with the intent to make it an esports viable game from the start (and as such including proper spec mode) or if it is slapped on top as an afterthought (like in HotS. The fact that they use an out of game pick/ban client for Blizzcon is hilariously bad).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
November 02 2015 22:45 GMT
#1232
On November 03 2015 02:55 nighcol wrote:
In the end I suspect pretty much anything that is played will also be watched. HS doesn't seem like a terribly exciting spectator sport on paper, for example. I'm sure there's some benefit to being easy to understand and follow but if it was a major factor we'd have different games as the top esport titles right now.

Hearthstone is great at suspense. the RNG of the game as well as the top decks makes it always nerve wracking to watch when amazing shit happens.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
November 03 2015 00:40 GMT
#1233
Seems like there is actually FPV observing and AskJoshy is currently casting using it, I guess Khaldor didn't find it or it didn't work for him since I was going by what he said in my earlier comment.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 03:05:35
November 03 2015 03:03 GMT
#1234
New hero being teased. It's just this page for now:

http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/blog/19942649

Notable entries:

"...but I had a few more things I wanted to try out with my endothermic diffuser. (Note to self: come up with a less science-y name.) I came upon a part of the trail that was impassable and that would have required me to take a big detour. But not today! I just built my own walkway with the diffuser and went right across it. It's going to be a great help in the mountains—I know it!"

So she is apparently able to make her own paths to cross terrain. A support hero who can open up the rest of the map for her team somehow by creating pathways to higher ledges for other heroes?

"(my arm still hurts from being frozen solid a few days ago… so embarrassing!), and everything is in good working order. Look on the bright side: now that I've tested the equipment on myself, I'm not worried about using it on all the cute animals I want to study!"

Support.

Reddit also seems to think she may be the character in the bottom right of this picture since it appears to be some kind of climbing suit that includes an ice pick and a weapon that looks science-y enough to be an "endothermic diffuser".

Still, she's a female snow/cold based hero that uses endothermic tools to make things cold and create frozen pathways that she can walk on.

So, you know, Elsa.
TL+ Member
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 03 2015 03:40 GMT
#1235
So much hype for announcements at Blizzcon this weekend. HYPE.
It's your boy Guzma!
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 04:00:18
November 03 2015 03:52 GMT
#1236
Top player scrims happening right now.

http://www.twitch.tv/clockwork
http://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull
& more
http://multistre.am/clockwork/a_seagull/layout3/ for multi

vs

http://www.twitch.tv/talespinlol
http://www.twitch.tv/coolmatt69
& more
http://multistre.am/talespinlol/coolmatt69/layout3/ for multi

Edit: Holy shit Talespin got pretty good with Tracer.
TL+ Member
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 03 2015 05:15 GMT
#1237
On November 03 2015 07:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 05:52 udgnim wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPDsgg9n40

That is pretty great. Glad to see someone finally dug deep into the wall running.


wow nice!
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 03 2015 06:25 GMT
#1238
as a somebody who never received early beta key from blizzard im getting more and more annoyed
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 03 2015 09:01 GMT
#1239
http://www.overpwn.com/news/89-never-before-seen-datamined-hero-sprays-potential

Datamined hero sprays present in Overwatch files. Couple of curiosities in there.
TL+ Member
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
November 03 2015 10:00 GMT
#1240
On November 03 2015 15:25 kongoline wrote:
as a somebody who never received early beta key from blizzard im getting more and more annoyed


They announced seven million are in the pool for beta. Don't feel bad, the odds are against you, and have always been against you. Me too. =(
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Prev 1 60 61 62 63 64 176 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
12:00
Group C
WardiTV344
Rex58
3DClanTV 23
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Master Swan Open #102
CranKy Ducklings95
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko252
TKL 64
Rex 58
Railgan 51
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40411
Calm 5871
Horang2 1350
Mini 646
EffOrt 358
BeSt 335
actioN 327
Mind 259
Last 195
ZerO 167
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 159
JYJ 107
Aegong 86
Barracks 62
Sharp 60
Backho 54
Hyun 54
910 48
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
ToSsGirL 29
NaDa 26
Hm[arnc] 25
soO 21
Bale 19
Movie 19
IntoTheRainbow 15
GoRush 13
Dota 2
Gorgc4548
ODPixel82
BananaSlamJamma54
Counter-Strike
zeus1074
Super Smash Bros
Westballz38
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor162
Other Games
singsing1757
B2W.Neo1113
Mew2King129
Sick112
Trikslyr35
QueenE34
ZerO(Twitch)20
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9807
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2457
Other Games
gamesdonequick749
BasetradeTV210
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 20
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 22
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1570
• TFBlade1116
Upcoming Events
SC Evo League
1h 20m
IPSL
3h 50m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6h 50m
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
9h 50m
CranKy Ducklings
11h 50m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 50m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
22h 50m
Ladder Legends
1d 2h
BSL
1d 6h
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
1d 6h
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.