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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2015 18:21 GMT
#701
Reminds me of what it reminds most, Team Fortress. However i don't really care if it looks or plays like X and Y. All i want is to be a good game and something else to entertain me :D
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 15 2015 18:25 GMT
#702
Yeah, I don't care that its similar to TF, I just want a good and fun game to play :D
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
October 15 2015 18:36 GMT
#703
On October 16 2015 02:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 02:31 Hider wrote:
Although you have to be annoyed, its not really Blizzards fault that their company is in the US and their main market is here.


You sure about main market? Pc gaming is in general much larger in EU than US.

No, I am not 100% sure that Blizzard sells more copies of games in the US or EU. I have literally zero data to back that up beyond that they are a US company that releases most of their games in the US first. So MAYBE????? Or they just picked the US because they hate other regions and want them all to suffer because they are all horrible zealots and love America and America only.

The world may never know.

There can be more reasons than just sales to release it in the US first.

With a quick search all I can find about it is revenue by region for the whole of Activision Blizzard.
It has North America at $2190 million and Europe at $1824 million. Quite a difference but still big enough that I'd think they would release it at the same time across regions if that were the only factor.

http://investor.activision.com/annual-reports.cfm

It's on page 14
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22638 Posts
October 15 2015 18:48 GMT
#704
I believe WoW's beta servers have always been in the US, even for EU Betas.
I would assume the same will be true for Overwatch so that is one reason why US comes before EU.
Also translation can play a factor in the rest of the world being behind the US.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 19:01:33
October 15 2015 19:01 GMT
#705
On October 16 2015 03:36 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On October 16 2015 02:31 Hider wrote:
Although you have to be annoyed, its not really Blizzards fault that their company is in the US and their main market is here.


You sure about main market? Pc gaming is in general much larger in EU than US.

No, I am not 100% sure that Blizzard sells more copies of games in the US or EU. I have literally zero data to back that up beyond that they are a US company that releases most of their games in the US first. So MAYBE????? Or they just picked the US because they hate other regions and want them all to suffer because they are all horrible zealots and love America and America only.

The world may never know.

There can be more reasons than just sales to release it in the US first.

With a quick search all I can find about it is revenue by region for the whole of Activision Blizzard.
It has North America at $2190 million and Europe at $1824 million. Quite a difference but still big enough that I'd think they would release it at the same time across regions if that were the only factor.

http://investor.activision.com/annual-reports.cfm

It's on page 14


Yeh that includes the Activison franchises like CoD and Skylanders. But when I look at PC-games games like Starcraft, Counterstrike and MOBA*s, it seems that there are alot more European than NA players.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 19:02:51
October 15 2015 19:02 GMT
#706
Distribution channels are another one. Although, that's less an issue in the age of digital distribution, it's still present - EU ppl remember how bad Twitch was/is for you guys?

Also don't underestimate the inertia of "We've always done it this way".
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 15 2015 19:08 GMT
#707
Great stream

Game looks soooo much fun
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 15 2015 20:26 GMT
#708
Amazing stream this morning! HYPE!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 15 2015 21:37 GMT
#709
I can't wait for games, that start 6 bastion into 6 times the counter lol. But wow that 2 point cap game was over in a few seconds. Didn't know what hit em.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
October 16 2015 12:41 GMT
#710
Compared to CS:GO the fights looked damn confusing. Too much animations etc.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
October 17 2015 07:37 GMT
#711
On October 16 2015 21:41 Dingodile wrote:
Compared to CS:GO the fights looked damn confusing. Too much animations etc.

Well thats a given since the game is you have 3-4 abilities each, you dont have to worry about that in CS:GO.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2112 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 08:45:32
October 17 2015 08:44 GMT
#712
Has there been any talk about the movement options in particular? The feeling I get is that the game is going start having some nasty deadlock meatgrinders once people figure out the classes and maps a bit and stop running around aimlessly. In the longer run you probably want to have some tools avoid the nastiest focus fire zones and whatever else there is.

Maybe the map design or character abilities allow you to navigate through worst stalemates and defensive fortifications somehow, but so far I'm not sure how things are going to play out.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 15:26:42
October 17 2015 13:06 GMT
#713
There are plenty of movement options to break stalemates, I think this is rather well made, e.g.: Hanzo wall climbing, Widowmaker grappling hook, Junkrat bomb jumping, Pharah jetpack, Reaper shadowwalk - the maps are also designed so that you can always find a backdoor to go around a fortified position, even if you don't have the option to go vertical as the aforementioned characters. Of course, you will have to adapt your team to break stalemates and can't do this with every single comp.
Get off my lawn, young punks
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 17 2015 14:32 GMT
#714
Only thing that I see as problematic is when you get overrun hard in the first engagement and lose an objective. The next time they will have ults to beat you up even harder.

Map design seems to have multiple height levels, 1 or 2 hallways around the main hallway and 1 or 2 reachable by jump mechanic pathways.
And then there is still airways for the flying rocket slinger and the healer who can melt any group of people staying around.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
October 18 2015 08:20 GMT
#715
On October 17 2015 23:32 FeyFey wrote:
Only thing that I see as problematic is when you get overrun hard in the first engagement and lose an objective. The next time they will have ults to beat you up even harder.

Map design seems to have multiple height levels, 1 or 2 hallways around the main hallway and 1 or 2 reachable by jump mechanic pathways.
And then there is still airways for the flying rocket slinger and the healer who can melt any group of people staying around.


You'll have your ults too.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
TL+ Member
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 18 2015 18:42 GMT
#716
This game actually reminds me quite a bit of Firefall.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2015 18:55 GMT
#717
On October 19 2015 03:42 Tachion wrote:
This game actually reminds me quite a bit of Firefall.


Well, the newer Firefall at least, only without the single player. I still prefer the older Firefall that didn't have the stupid loadout/ultimate things.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 20 2015 21:26 GMT
#718
On October 18 2015 17:20 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 23:32 FeyFey wrote:
Only thing that I see as problematic is when you get overrun hard in the first engagement and lose an objective. The next time they will have ults to beat you up even harder.

Map design seems to have multiple height levels, 1 or 2 hallways around the main hallway and 1 or 2 reachable by jump mechanic pathways.
And then there is still airways for the flying rocket slinger and the healer who can melt any group of people staying around.


You'll have your ults too.


nope you get ults by doing damage. Not by being slaughtered.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 20 2015 21:41 GMT
#719
On October 21 2015 06:26 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 17:20 lestye wrote:
On October 17 2015 23:32 FeyFey wrote:
Only thing that I see as problematic is when you get overrun hard in the first engagement and lose an objective. The next time they will have ults to beat you up even harder.

Map design seems to have multiple height levels, 1 or 2 hallways around the main hallway and 1 or 2 reachable by jump mechanic pathways.
And then there is still airways for the flying rocket slinger and the healer who can melt any group of people staying around.


You'll have your ults too.


nope you get ults by doing damage. Not by being slaughtered.

From what I've seen, you keep your Ult charge between deaths, no?
It's your boy Guzma!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 22 2015 14:13 GMT
#720
On October 21 2015 06:26 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 17:20 lestye wrote:
On October 17 2015 23:32 FeyFey wrote:
Only thing that I see as problematic is when you get overrun hard in the first engagement and lose an objective. The next time they will have ults to beat you up even harder.

Map design seems to have multiple height levels, 1 or 2 hallways around the main hallway and 1 or 2 reachable by jump mechanic pathways.
And then there is still airways for the flying rocket slinger and the healer who can melt any group of people staying around.


You'll have your ults too.


nope you get ults by doing damage. Not by being slaughtered.


From what I recall from an interview, there's a losing bonus to your ult timer, where if you die a bunch in quick succession you get charges. Not exactly sure how it works though.
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