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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 23 2016 05:58 GMT
#2581
new map is good
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
March 23 2016 06:01 GMT
#2582
New map is gorgeous. And it's like a shoot out frenzy. One of the very few escort maps I like. I also like the changes made to Nepal.
Skol
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
March 23 2016 06:01 GMT
#2583
On March 23 2016 09:55 Emnjay808 wrote:
ooo the update is really perky. i like it.

edit: oh wow just played my first game after the update and i got potg and i saw "highlights" on the main menu. they actually keep your potg's recorded. thats fucking amazing. blizzard going above and beyond expectations right now.


They go away when you log out though, so if you want to store them, make sure you record video when you play them back :>
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 23 2016 07:53 GMT
#2584
A lot of maps have a lot of unused/empty transitional areas.

- Wide opening in Hollywood at the start goes mostly unused/uncontested.

- The path on Volskaya Industries to the second point is just open space

- The path to Hanamura's second point

Compared to Watchpoint: Gibraltar that is segmented very well and gives many areas to contest.

- First round of Ilios is misleading in how truly "open-space"/multi-entry point it is, when in reality; it's all close-quarters and narrow both trying to get on the point and the areas around it.

I felt similar with Nepal, but it's improving.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
March 23 2016 08:59 GMT
#2585
I think Hollywood should be left untouched. The large opening at the start sometimes gets contested, no reason to modify that.

Volskaya does feel very narrow and linear for such a "big" map. Although Im not complaining since it gives me lots of hiding spots as Symmetra for her teleports.

Hanamura seems fine to me. Its pretty even when its the second phase. First phase however feels so unbalanced, literally only 1 entry point so defense just focuses on a single chokepoint.

Skol
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 23 2016 09:01 GMT
#2586
How long does an average game of Overwatch roughly last? 15-25? 30-40?
WriterXiao8~~
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
March 23 2016 09:40 GMT
#2587
some games are under 2 minutes. Longer games are around 10 minutes.
Skol
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
March 23 2016 15:17 GMT
#2588
On March 23 2016 18:01 Kipsate wrote:
How long does an average game of Overwatch roughly last? 15-25? 30-40?


Most rounds last less than 10 minutes, and if you consider a game to be two rounds, one attacking and one defending, between 10-20 minutes total unless it's a stomp.
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
March 23 2016 16:25 GMT
#2589
STILL no genji skin! Is he the only one, now? Oi...


Also, RIP the Zen meta. Things got REALLY shaken up!
"overwatch is jesus" - motbob 2016
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
March 23 2016 16:50 GMT
#2590
Overwatch keeps improving by leaps and bounds.

On March 22 2016 09:52 ZeromuS wrote:
I need to look into streaming or using shadow play because I had a SICK potg with 6 man zarya ult today where i wiped their team.

This game needs to save your potgs to a local folder because honestly they usually suck but sometimes you want to relive them.


i replay my close SC2 game victories in slow motion and pretend i'm the real jim raynor.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 09:13:22
March 24 2016 06:30 GMT
#2591
the mei changes are great. they took her crosshair off. so assuming no one sticks a piece of paper on their monitor, she cant snipe with her right click anymore :D

edit: I guess it was bugged during that time, cause now I have a crosshair again...

edit 2: its a bug, if you have no crosshair just press escape.
Skol
ZP
Profile Joined March 2010
United States49 Posts
March 24 2016 11:14 GMT
#2592
Hey,

So there was quite a bit of talk in here over spectating in Overwatch, so I figured I'd drop in and give my viewpoint on things. For reference, I currently cast and run production (stream setup, scenes, camera, etc) for the main stream on the GosuGamers weeklies.

Currently, we run primarily first person camera on our main stream. The reasons for this are manifold, but the biggest are as follows:

1.) Player Skill

- It's very difficult to convey the player skill being displayed when in freecam. While you might get a more complete view of what's going on, you end up losing some degree of appreciation for what's happening. This is most apparent on hitscan characters (ie: tracer/mccree/widow), but also for moments like this:

https://www.twitch.tv/gosugamers/v/56192374?t=1h30m38s

Not being in first person for a moment like the above would simply be a crime.

2.) Freecam doesn't resemble the played game.

- Unlike games like Starcraft or League, the primary Overwatch view as you play the game is first person. This means that large sweeping overhead views feel relatively alien to what people are actually seeing when they're in game themselves. It creates a much larger disconnect between the observed game and the played game. In the long term, that sort of disconnect can definitely alienate potential viewers.

3.) General Feedback

- We had constant complaints/feedback about people wanting dramatically more first person back when we ran primarily freecam. Everything from general chat in Twitch, to big names from other games PM'ing behind the scenes with feedback for focusing on first person. There's definitely a split in preference between first person / freecam, but my (highly unscientific) view probably puts it somewhere in the realm of 80% / 20% split in favor of first person. In where we'd be making far more people unhappy by switching to freecam than vica versa.

I think ideally some sort of minimap or picture in picture feature would be great for showing a more complete picture of a game without sacrificing all of the benefits of first person. But until that feature comes in I think our hands are somewhat tied as to what to do with the camera. That said, I think our game sense at figuring out when plays are going to happen has improved greatly since the beginning and hopefully will continue to improve in time
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
March 24 2016 13:49 GMT
#2593
Wait, is that ZP the ZP? Hi! :D

Have been loving GG's stuff more and more every week, it has come so far since the first beta. I may be Team Hex but I love you too <3

Keep it up!
"overwatch is jesus" - motbob 2016
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 24 2016 14:21 GMT
#2594
Wow I was in fill leaver games duty yesterday for some reason. Damn the amount of exp you get is insane. Think leavers should be downvoted by the whole team automatically as well unless its a crash/disconnect. But I really like the exp buffs for good sports.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
March 24 2016 14:30 GMT
#2595
Leavers get punished a lot now. Its such a refreshing change.

One thing Im kinda bothered with is the "staying in consecutive games for more exp" thing. I usually like to refresh my games and search for a new host of people to play with. I dont really like the idea of playing with the same majority of people over and over again, feels stagnant to me for some reason.

Also I just saw the new Reaper skin... HOT DAMN YESS BLIZZ THANK U.
Skol
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
March 24 2016 15:31 GMT
#2596
Since the new patch I've seen some real duds in POTG. Even when it was my own play that's shown, I'm left wondering how the system managed to pick the absolute worst 10 seconds from the match... I think it gave me the "sharpshooter" one when I killed a close-range pharahh with widowmaker unscoped (meanwhile the game-winning triple on the payload gets ignored).
"See you space cowboy"
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
March 24 2016 15:39 GMT
#2597
do you still get thrown into half played matches? and do you get punished for leaving? because i'd 100% leave those games....
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 24 2016 15:49 GMT
#2598
On March 25 2016 00:39 malcram wrote:
do you still get thrown into half played matches? and do you get punished for leaving? because i'd 100% leave those games....


Yes and you get a massive XP bonus for completing the game and a 1/2 XP penalty for leaving them.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 24 2016 15:52 GMT
#2599
they changed the potg system, as it now searches for 4 different potg situations, guess they still have troubles sorting out the best one out of the best 4.

And valid point about keeping it fresh though hmmm. Love The B.Va skin !

and yes you get still thrown into half played matches and you get rewarded for staying in them. So if you like your loot boxes, don't leave .
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-27 09:39:51
March 27 2016 08:51 GMT
#2600
Once I get a decent winrate I start to get really really bad teammates lol. Like Genjis that dont know how to kill Bastions. Tracers that I see zip off the map by accident. Im seeing Mercys that spam heal on you when youre already full HP.

I feel like if I dont play 76 (my main) its gonna be a really really bad game. And even if I start playing 76, I have to put on my super tryhard pants. And when it reaches that point--I get exhausted from at least 2 games of tryhardness and have to take a break. And having to take a break from Overwatch because it mentally exhausts me is something that Id like to avoid with my free time.

/end rant


Anyways. Im exploring new heroes. Zenyatta right now is actually so fun. I started playing with him cause I got the Ra skin, its so sick looking! Only thing I dislike about him now is how I have to keep spamming his orb of discord since it returns to you after they LOS for a bit. Other than that, such a glass cannon type of hero. Really fits my style.
Skol
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