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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 22:09:23
March 04 2016 22:08 GMT
#2401
On March 05 2016 04:49 Arnstein wrote:
Am I the only one who got bored of Overwatch? I'm level 30 now(just so you get an estimate on how much I've played), and I feel no motivation to ever play it again :/


Probably not the only one. I am on the can't get enough of it side. And I usually dislike team games, because I feel like I will be a burden to the team. But maybe its because its a beta community, those are usually way better.
I just want the downvote system for other Blizzard games lol.

Just imagine you could downvote in HL in heroes *-*.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13406 Posts
March 06 2016 17:02 GMT
#2402
Im still liking it i hit level 50 in a little over a week I spammed a lot of games in my free time XD
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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 20:26:56
March 06 2016 17:47 GMT
#2403
On March 07 2016 02:02 ZeromuS wrote:
Im still liking it i hit level 50 in a little over a week I spammed a lot of games in my free time XD


I'm in love with this game! For me it is the best game Blizz has released since WC3.

edit: Once it's released ofc
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 07 2016 00:53 GMT
#2404
Can't kill the Genji. They will just get another support lol. Well it helps that Zarya Shields are currently bugged. So there is not much that can protect you from a Genji dive.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
March 07 2016 10:05 GMT
#2405
IGN leaked out, not confirmed, release dates and early access. Release 24.5 and early access 03.5.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 07 2016 16:50 GMT
#2406
I've got another newb question. I understand that OW and other FPS games handle player action and interaction differently than RTS and MOBA, in the sense that everything you do is instant on your screen in OW but what you see isn't necessarily what is actually happening, whereas in RTS and MOBA everything you do is delayed but you see the same thing as other people in the game and you see what is actually happening. I hear of people complaining about OW because things don't actually happen the way they see them happen and it's confusing. Is it really unplayable for a game like OW to have things be like RTS and MOBA?

The only FPS I ever got really good at, like could play good games with pros, was Halo 1 (and I know that's not gonna get a lot of credit from PC gamers) and the latency was how RTS and MOBA is. You could feel the delay on your own screen but what you saw was what actually happened. I felt like this was good because I could get used to the latency and adjust my play based on it and it was playable and not frustrating, although there is an objective disadvantage to having higher latency. For aiming, it basically felt like all the projectiles were slower so you just had to lead off more. Same with me playing SC2 on the Korean server now -- it's an objective disadvantage against lower latency opponents but at least I can get a feel for it and adjust and actually know what's going on.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 17:06:01
March 07 2016 17:02 GMT
#2407
Literally unplayable? Nope, even though reddit and others would've you believe otherwise. Frustrating? Definitely, currently even when everyone has pretty low ping the game has very lenient lag tolerance which allows you to example hook people who see themselves behind a wall but still get dragged to roadhog.

Blizzard hasn't commented much on server performance but the game is in closed beta and the servers are probably not at the same level they'll be when it launches.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 17:16:02
March 07 2016 17:07 GMT
#2408
More info on Overwatch beta early access:

Want a chance to check out Overwatch™ ahead of its May 24 launch? Form a team of friends and try out the team shooter of tomorrow in the Overwatch Open Beta, coming in early May to PC, PS4™, and Xbox One!

As a newly added bonus, if you pre-purchase or preorder Overwatch for any platform at www.buyoverwatch.com, you'll also get early access to the Open Beta for you and a friend from May 3–4. After that, everyone will have a chance to play free during an all-access Open Beta period from May 5–9.


PC, PS4, and Xbox One players alike will be able to experience the intense action of Overwatch for themselves, including all of our launch-day heroes and maps. Read on below for more information, and be sure to stay tuned for additional details.

To get a two-day head start in the Open Beta for you and a friend on May 3–4, simply pre-purchase or preorder any edition of Overwatch by April 29 through one of the methods below.
Battle.net Shop:
  • Pre-purchase the digital version of Overwatch or Overwatch: Origins Edition for PC via the Battle.net Shop. We'll send two early-access keys (PC) to your Battle.net email address—one for you and one for a friend—before the Open Beta begins.

  • If you've already pre-purchased digitally through Battle.net, you're good to go. We'll send you two keys before the Open Beta early-access period gets started.

Retail Stores:
  • Pre-purchase or preorder any version of Overwatch wat a participating retailer, and your retailer will give you two Open Beta early-access keys for your specific platform before the early access period begins—one key for you, and one for a friend. Distribution varies by retailer, so check with them for additional details.

  • To find a participating retailer in North America, visit www.buyoverwatch.com. If you don't see your favorite store listed, check with them to find out if they're taking part in this promo.

  • If you previously pre-ordered or pre-purchased Overwatch at a participating retailer, contact your store to find out how to receive your early-access keys.

PlayStation Store & Xbox Store – Coming Soon:

Preorder the PS4 version or pre-purchase the Xbox One version of Overwatch: Origins Edition digitally through the PlayStation Store or Xbox Store (once available), and you'll automatically be flagged for early access to the Open Beta on your console.

Before the Open Beta early-access period begins, you’ll also receive one additional early-access key (valid only for the same platform).


And don't forget: In addition to receiving early access to the Open Beta, when you pre-purchase or preorder any version of Overwatch, you'll also get the Noire Widowmaker skin at launch! Visit www.buyoverwatch.com for more details.

OPEN BETA FAQ

Q. By what date do I need to pre-purchase to get early access to the Open Beta?
A: To ensure you get early access to the Open Beta, pre-purchase or preorder at a participating retailer on or before April 29, 2016.


Q. When will I receive my early access keys?
A. All early access keys will be distributed on or before May 2, 2016.


Q. How will I receive my early access key from a retailer?
A. Your retailer will provide you with early access keys for your chosen platform. Distribution timing and methods vary by platform and retailer, so check with your favorite store for details.


Q. How do I get early access to the Open Beta if I previously preordered or pre-purchased at a participating retail store, but didn't get an early access key?
A. If you previously pre-purchased or preordered Overwatch at a participating retailer, contact your store to find out how to receive your early access keys.


Q. Can I redeem my early access keys right away once I receive them?
A. Early access keys on PC can be redeemed immediately through Battle.net Account Management ("Games & Codes" > "Add a Game Key").


Early access keys on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One will be redeemable beginning on May 3, 2016. Please be sure to save your key(s) and redeem them on May 3 to download and play the game.


Q. Who should I contact if I am having trouble redeeming my early access key?
A. If you're having issues with redeeming your early access key(s), please reach out to whomever you pre-purchased or preordered from for assistance.


Q. What is the exact time the Open Beta will begin in my region?

A. To be determined! We'll be sure to share regional dates and times for the Open Beta (including the early access portion of the Open Beta) once those details have been locked down.


Q. What game content will be available during the Open Beta?
A. All players will have access to the full roster of 21 heroes, along with every map that will be available at launch. We want players to get a feel for the complete Overwatch experience!


Q. Do I need Xbox Live Gold or PlayStation Plus to participate in the Open Beta?
A. Due to the multiplayer nature of Overwatch, Xbox Live Gold is required to play during the Open Beta and at launch. PlayStation Plus is not required during the Open Beta, but will be required to play at launch.

Q. Will my progress from the Open Beta carry over to the launch version of the game?
A. No. All progression including skins, rewards, levels, and stats gained during the Open Beta will be reset at launch. This includes any progression gained during the early access portion, as well.


Q. Will PC and console gamers be able to play together during the Open Beta?
A: No, cross-platform play will not be available during the Open Beta or at launch.


Q. Will the Closed Beta end before the Open Beta begins?
A. Yes. The Closed Beta will end before May 3, 2016. The exact date is still to be determined, though we'll provide Closed Beta participants with advanced notice.

Q. What if I have a question about the Open Beta that hasn't been answered?
A. Stay tuned! We'll be sharing more information about the Open Beta in the coming weeks. In the meantime, please feel free to tweet @PlayOverwatch with your question if you'd like to see it answered in one of our future updates.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 07 2016 17:11 GMT
#2409
On March 08 2016 02:07 karazax wrote:
More info on early access

Basically what I'm hearing here is that I'll get closed beta access at the end of April and will be able to play for about a week before open beta

blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It's your boy Guzma!
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 17:19:21
March 07 2016 17:18 GMT
#2410
You should read again. Open Beta is 5 days from May 5th to 9th. If you pre order, you get an early access to open beta which is May 3rd and 4th, so you have 7 days of "open beta" instead of 5
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 07 2016 17:22 GMT
#2411
On March 08 2016 02:18 Enox wrote:
You should read again. Open Beta is 5 days from May 5th to 9th. If you pre order, you get an early access to open beta which is May 3rd and 4th, so you have 7 days of "open beta" instead of 5

I think he was joking in that he'll probably get a beta key right before they go to open beta anyway.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 07 2016 17:24 GMT
#2412
On March 08 2016 02:22 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 02:18 Enox wrote:
You should read again. Open Beta is 5 days from May 5th to 9th. If you pre order, you get an early access to open beta which is May 3rd and 4th, so you have 7 days of "open beta" instead of 5

I think he was joking in that he'll probably get a beta key right before they go to open beta anyway.

As I did with Heroes and Hearthstone, literally like a couple weeks max of closed beta before everyone else got it anyway LOL
It's your boy Guzma!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22208 Posts
March 07 2016 17:34 GMT
#2413
They have millions sign up for beta's. The vast majority of people is not going to get in.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 07 2016 17:43 GMT
#2414
On March 08 2016 02:34 Gorsameth wrote:
They have millions sign up for beta's. The vast majority of people is not going to get in.

Sure, but that doesn't mean people stop wanting to.
It's your boy Guzma!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 07 2016 17:48 GMT
#2415
On March 08 2016 01:50 NonY wrote:
I've got another newb question. I understand that OW and other FPS games handle player action and interaction differently than RTS and MOBA, in the sense that everything you do is instant on your screen in OW but what you see isn't necessarily what is actually happening, whereas in RTS and MOBA everything you do is delayed but you see the same thing as other people in the game and you see what is actually happening. I hear of people complaining about OW because things don't actually happen the way they see them happen and it's confusing. Is it really unplayable for a game like OW to have things be like RTS and MOBA?
.


You still see the MMO roots of the gamein this. But it procedually got better during beta. But server connection or well a bad computer can really hurt you. (Or if you think 30 fps is enough and use high graphic settings)
Its an issue for reactive play, as you have to use certain things proactively. But its nothing that they can't balance with buffs and nerfs.

For example the hook is so frustrating because they had to make the hitbox of it so large. Which makes it easier to grab people around walls. But thats tweakable.

Imo they keep the servers this way atm, so they can make the base game work for console in the best way possible. Since those are rather weak on the frames per second side and will have the most issues in this regard.
For PC they can just tinker around as they wish post release and crank stuff up. Not sure if they will do it.

They might want to look into the tire though. After a few wall jump bumps its usually 5 meters further ahead then most people see it.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 07 2016 18:52 GMT
#2416
wonder if there will be a competitive queue by launch

will definitely be playing Open Beta
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 07 2016 19:00 GMT
#2417
On March 08 2016 03:52 udgnim wrote:
wonder if there will be a competitive queue by launch

will definitely be playing Open Beta

From what's been said so far probably not by launch.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17435 Posts
March 07 2016 23:02 GMT
#2418
On March 08 2016 01:50 NonY wrote:
I've got another newb question. I understand that OW and other FPS games handle player action and interaction differently than RTS and MOBA, in the sense that everything you do is instant on your screen in OW but what you see isn't necessarily what is actually happening, whereas in RTS and MOBA everything you do is delayed but you see the same thing as other people in the game and you see what is actually happening. I hear of people complaining about OW because things don't actually happen the way they see them happen and it's confusing. Is it really unplayable for a game like OW to have things be like RTS and MOBA?

The only FPS I ever got really good at, like could play good games with pros, was Halo 1 (and I know that's not gonna get a lot of credit from PC gamers) and the latency was how RTS and MOBA is. You could feel the delay on your own screen but what you saw was what actually happened. I felt like this was good because I could get used to the latency and adjust my play based on it and it was playable and not frustrating, although there is an objective disadvantage to having higher latency. For aiming, it basically felt like all the projectiles were slower so you just had to lead off more. Same with me playing SC2 on the Korean server now -- it's an objective disadvantage against lower latency opponents but at least I can get a feel for it and adjust and actually know what's going on.


if you have a substantially higher ( 50% or more and we're both over 20ms ) latency you are at a disadvantage. if we're both below 20ms there is almost no advantage for either player. The exact situations when low latency presents the biggest advantage are explained in the video.

Overwatch uses interpolation and lag compensation.



https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/3u5kfg/everything_you_need_to_know_about_tick_rate/



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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 01:13:05
March 08 2016 01:06 GMT
#2419
On March 08 2016 03:52 udgnim wrote:
wonder if there will be a competitive queue by launch

will definitely be playing Open Beta

What do you mean by that? Pretty sure there is Elo based matchmaking by default. Will they do a 2nd queue where they show Elo?
Off-season = best season
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4206 Posts
March 08 2016 07:34 GMT
#2420
On March 08 2016 10:06 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 03:52 udgnim wrote:
wonder if there will be a competitive queue by launch

will definitely be playing Open Beta

What do you mean by that? Pretty sure there is Elo based matchmaking by default. Will they do a 2nd queue where they show Elo?

If it's hidden then you have no way to know if you're improving. It's the same in league, ranked /unranked queue.
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