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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44240 Posts
November 08 2014 13:35 GMT
#201
Is this free to play ?
this is a quote
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8651 Posts
November 08 2014 14:00 GMT
#202
On November 08 2014 21:21 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 21:10 shin ken wrote:
I'm a bit sceptical though.

Blizzard already tried to make a Superhero player vs. player game once in the form of "Justice League Task Force" and it was godawful and known as one of the worst fighting games of all times.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that in 19 years Blizz has managed to improve and learn a few things.


If they learned one thing then it is how to make games that draw near to the quality of said fighting game more and more after they did amazing things from 1995 to 2005 or so.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
November 08 2014 14:01 GMT
#203
On November 08 2014 22:35 goody153 wrote:
Is this free to play ?


it will be really strange if blizzard wanna compete with a p2p model against tf2 that is f2p already
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chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
November 08 2014 14:02 GMT
#204
On November 08 2014 22:30 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 07:42 Voronoff wrote:
Battleborn anyone?

http://www.battleborn.com/

This x1000


holy shit! these people must feel bad after the overwatch announcement...
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
November 08 2014 14:33 GMT
#205
On November 08 2014 17:44 SkelA wrote:
If its F2P i might try it. Sticking to my promise to never spend another dime for blizzard games.


why?
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 14:35:39
November 08 2014 14:33 GMT
#206
I am really not impressed by what they showed of it.

I really really dislike superheroes, I am not a fan of TF2 at all, I don't like the graphical design they are going for, and even less the casual focus and easy-to-aim style.
How well, I guess I'll test it if they have a free beta or if it is f2p, but I don't expect too much out of it.

What interest me the most is how they will handle the inevitable rampant cheating. Afaik, their anti-cheats are not doing that great in their other titles.

In the meantime, ill stick to csgo.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
November 08 2014 14:36 GMT
#207
On November 08 2014 23:33 absinthfee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 17:44 SkelA wrote:
If its F2P i might try it. Sticking to my promise to never spend another dime for blizzard games.


why?


Because what they did with BW/SC2.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 08 2014 14:36 GMT
#208
lol theres a weaver in that game :D
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8651 Posts
November 08 2014 15:01 GMT
#209
On November 08 2014 23:36 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 23:33 absinthfee wrote:
On November 08 2014 17:44 SkelA wrote:
If its F2P i might try it. Sticking to my promise to never spend another dime for blizzard games.


why?


Because what they did with BW/SC2.


And with D2/D3. Allthough BW/SC2 weighes heavier. I'm in the same boat.
Dubag
Profile Joined March 2006
Australia82 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 15:17:42
November 08 2014 15:17 GMT
#210
On November 08 2014 22:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd rather have a casual shooter, I'm getting tired of the whole "is this the next big esport" crap from blizzard.


What exactly do you think is non-casual about this game?
It's got casual all over it. The only reason it's going to be an esports title is because it's Blizzard made and it's a great way for them to market it to draw in fans/players. It's like Idra coming out of retirement for HotS even though he's said multiple times he hates casual shit.

Dahang 2010 is an example of a non-casual game. Overwatch looks like the only thing you really need to learn is what each hero can do. (Not saying that it's bad but it does look like the game is casual friendly with a low skill ceiling).
DRG | MC | Gumiho | Soulkey | Effort
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 08 2014 15:26 GMT
#211
Great overview by a Redditor:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2llvx9/blizzard_announces_overwatch/clw0iaw
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50654 Posts
November 08 2014 15:41 GMT
#212
On November 09 2014 00:17 Dubag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 22:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd rather have a casual shooter, I'm getting tired of the whole "is this the next big esport" crap from blizzard.


What exactly do you think is non-casual about this game?
It's got casual all over it. The only reason it's going to be an esports title is because it's Blizzard made and it's a great way for them to market it to draw in fans/players. It's like Idra coming out of retirement for HotS even though he's said multiple times he hates casual shit.

Dahang 2010 is an example of a non-casual game. Overwatch looks like the only thing you really need to learn is what each hero can do. (Not saying that it's bad but it does look like the game is casual friendly with a low skill ceiling).


no I meant this as a casual game, I was speaking in response to this.
On November 08 2014 19:33 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
I'd greatly prefer it if this was actually a skill shooter but oh well, still looks fun and I'm very interested in trying it out. Here's hoping I get lucky with a beta key ONCE.


should have actually quoted the post.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 15:54:37
November 08 2014 15:54 GMT
#213
On November 09 2014 00:17 Dubag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 22:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd rather have a casual shooter, I'm getting tired of the whole "is this the next big esport" crap from blizzard.


What exactly do you think is non-casual about this game?
It's got casual all over it. The only reason it's going to be an esports title is because it's Blizzard made and it's a great way for them to market it to draw in fans/players. It's like Idra coming out of retirement for HotS even though he's said multiple times he hates casual shit.

Dahang 2010 is an example of a non-casual game. Overwatch looks like the only thing you really need to learn is what each hero can do. (Not saying that it's bad but it does look like the game is casual friendly with a low skill ceiling).

wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
November 08 2014 16:02 GMT
#214
looks boring
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Dubag
Profile Joined March 2006
Australia82 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 16:30:57
November 08 2014 16:29 GMT
#215
On November 09 2014 00:54 kongoline wrote:
wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game


I doubt it, IMO Quake is the pinnacle of what that genre can achieve. I've seen the Cooller one (Love the Joe and 2GD casting)...I have a bunch on my external HDD I watch from time to time. The strenx one is insane from a pure aim perspective. (Recommended).

Reborn in development, Reflex recently launched beta or alpha...I think it would take a current behemoth company like Valve to get fast-paced FPS back into the limelight. It's the same with Blizzard...Magic the Gatherings been out for decades in card form and a long time online...yet suddenly Blizzard make an obviously dumbed down version of it and it becomes an esport.

If you wanna see some creativity and know the majority of duel maps check out the Baksteen Frag Vid. Or if you want to see some crazy movement (if he falls off he restarts back at the beginning of the 'tier'...Check out Final Torture. The problem is people don't know how long it takes to reach the level shown in the majority of those vids, or how new things were still being found a decade after release.

Either way, Overwatch doesn't look like it's for me at all.
DRG | MC | Gumiho | Soulkey | Effort
Tzyx
Profile Joined August 2010
Northern Ireland281 Posts
November 08 2014 16:46 GMT
#216
Gotta say nothing really about this floats my boat lol. Will be sticking to the *craft games methinks.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
November 08 2014 17:12 GMT
#217
Sigh, here comes LiquidWatch.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 08 2014 17:14 GMT
#218
On November 09 2014 00:54 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 00:17 Dubag wrote:
On November 08 2014 22:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd rather have a casual shooter, I'm getting tired of the whole "is this the next big esport" crap from blizzard.


What exactly do you think is non-casual about this game?
It's got casual all over it. The only reason it's going to be an esports title is because it's Blizzard made and it's a great way for them to market it to draw in fans/players. It's like Idra coming out of retirement for HotS even though he's said multiple times he hates casual shit.

Dahang 2010 is an example of a non-casual game. Overwatch looks like the only thing you really need to learn is what each hero can do. (Not saying that it's bad but it does look like the game is casual friendly with a low skill ceiling).

wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game


not going to happen

can't be played on console
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 17:46:35
November 08 2014 17:37 GMT
#219
On November 09 2014 02:14 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 00:54 kongoline wrote:
On November 09 2014 00:17 Dubag wrote:
On November 08 2014 22:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd rather have a casual shooter, I'm getting tired of the whole "is this the next big esport" crap from blizzard.


What exactly do you think is non-casual about this game?
It's got casual all over it. The only reason it's going to be an esports title is because it's Blizzard made and it's a great way for them to market it to draw in fans/players. It's like Idra coming out of retirement for HotS even though he's said multiple times he hates casual shit.

Dahang 2010 is an example of a non-casual game. Overwatch looks like the only thing you really need to learn is what each hero can do. (Not saying that it's bad but it does look like the game is casual friendly with a low skill ceiling).

wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game


not going to happen

can't be played on console

Yes it can and yes it was.
How are people still taking a shit on consoles? Can you not remember the GM toss who was playing with a controller?



On November 09 2014 01:29 Dubag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 00:54 kongoline wrote:
wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game


I doubt it, IMO Quake is the pinnacle of what that genre can achieve. I've seen the Cooller one (Love the Joe and 2GD casting)...I have a bunch on my external HDD I watch from time to time. The strenx one is insane from a pure aim perspective. (Recommended).

Reborn in development, Reflex recently launched beta or alpha...I think it would take a current behemoth company like Valve to get fast-paced FPS back into the limelight. It's the same with Blizzard...Magic the Gatherings been out for decades in card form and a long time online...yet suddenly Blizzard make an obviously dumbed down version of it and it becomes an esport.

If you wanna see some creativity and know the majority of duel maps check out the Baksteen Frag Vid. Or if you want to see some crazy movement (if he falls off he restarts back at the beginning of the 'tier'...Check out Final Torture. The problem is people don't know how long it takes to reach the level shown in the majority of those vids, or how new things were still being found a decade after release.

Either way, Overwatch doesn't look like it's for me at all.

I wouldn't call Quake "the pinnacle of fast paced FPS".
There's been other great games, revolving around very different ideas, yet allow for a fast paced gameplay, such as the old Team Fortress titles (including TFC, loving it. Excluding TF2, cause it has been stripped of absolutely everything. I mean everything. Literally everything.).

Now Overwatch will be an entirely new beast. We didn't really have a hero shooter like that yet. I can only wonder how that's gonna turn out.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#220
On November 09 2014 02:37 beg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 02:14 udgnim wrote:
On November 09 2014 00:54 kongoline wrote:
On November 09 2014 00:17 Dubag wrote:
On November 08 2014 22:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd rather have a casual shooter, I'm getting tired of the whole "is this the next big esport" crap from blizzard.


What exactly do you think is non-casual about this game?
It's got casual all over it. The only reason it's going to be an esports title is because it's Blizzard made and it's a great way for them to market it to draw in fans/players. It's like Idra coming out of retirement for HotS even though he's said multiple times he hates casual shit.

Dahang 2010 is an example of a non-casual game. Overwatch looks like the only thing you really need to learn is what each hero can do. (Not saying that it's bad but it does look like the game is casual friendly with a low skill ceiling).

wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game


not going to happen

can't be played on console

Yes it can and yes it was.




Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 01:29 Dubag wrote:
On November 09 2014 00:54 kongoline wrote:
wonder if we ever see fast paced ego fps shooters like quake raise in popularity again, personally i find vids like the one u posted (also worth checking cooler 2011 ) one of the best spectator experience out of any game


I doubt it, IMO Quake is the pinnacle of what that genre can achieve. I've seen the Cooller one (Love the Joe and 2GD casting)...I have a bunch on my external HDD I watch from time to time. The strenx one is insane from a pure aim perspective. (Recommended).

Reborn in development, Reflex recently launched beta or alpha...I think it would take a current behemoth company like Valve to get fast-paced FPS back into the limelight. It's the same with Blizzard...Magic the Gatherings been out for decades in card form and a long time online...yet suddenly Blizzard make an obviously dumbed down version of it and it becomes an esport.

If you wanna see some creativity and know the majority of duel maps check out the Baksteen Frag Vid. Or if you want to see some crazy movement (if he falls off he restarts back at the beginning of the 'tier'...Check out Final Torture. The problem is people don't know how long it takes to reach the level shown in the majority of those vids, or how new things were still being found a decade after release.

Either way, Overwatch doesn't look like it's for me at all.

I wouldn't call Quake "the pinnacle of fast paced FPS".
There's been other great games, revolving around very different ideas, yet allow for a fast paced gameplay, such as the old Team Fortress titles (including TFC, loving it).

Now Overwatch will be an entirely new beast. We didn't really have a hero shooter like that yet. I can only wonder how that's gonna turn out.


poor choice of words by me

the number of console players that desire to play a Quake style game with a controller are an extremely niche market
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
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