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NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
April 25 2017 16:40 GMT
#81
GW have denied 40k end times. It is just a new rule set which is coming out. All old Codexes and the such like won't viable any more once new edition comes out.
Some times you just gotta wish...
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-25 16:55:57
April 25 2017 16:55 GMT
#82
On April 26 2017 01:40 NKB wrote:
GW have denied 40k end times. It is just a new rule set which is coming out. All old Codexes and the such like won't viable any more once new edition comes out.
This sounds like a terrible idea. What could possibly be the justification other than a blatant cash grab? That takes business scumminess to a new level - they're like 1 or 2 levels below telecoms now.

And they screwed over fantasy right? Just got rid of Bretonnians?
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
April 25 2017 17:38 GMT
#83
On April 26 2017 01:55 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2017 01:40 NKB wrote:
GW have denied 40k end times. It is just a new rule set which is coming out. All old Codexes and the such like won't viable any more once new edition comes out.
This sounds like a terrible idea. What could possibly be the justification other than a blatant cash grab? That takes business scumminess to a new level - they're like 1 or 2 levels below telecoms now.

And they screwed over fantasy right? Just got rid of Bretonnians?


I've found a FAQ they released. (If I am not allowed to post links please say and I will delete)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/the-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000-your-questions-answeredgw-homepage-post-2/

From reading that seems like all the base rules and the such like will be free downloads like the new fantasy models and will literally be the books if you like hard copies or want modelling and/or lore information.

Regarding fantasy all I know is they blew the world up and rebuilt it with guys that are basically space marines. Fantasy wasn't really my thing so I can't really comment on whether it was a good idea or not.
Some times you just gotta wish...
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-25 18:00:42
April 25 2017 17:57 GMT
#84
Links are fine, I have no problem with it. You arent linking to pirated material so meh

Also thanks for tip on vallejo, alternatively can you revive the paint? If its thick but not hardened, can I add paint thinner of some kind or water or something?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22195 Posts
April 25 2017 18:13 GMT
#85
you can revive GW paint with water if they are not completely solid yeah.

And second the Vallejo option. If you google you can even find conversion tables which GW paint corresponds with which Vallejo one (roughly).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
April 25 2017 18:26 GMT
#86
Cool.

I've also got a bunch of Kroot since they came in the starter box way back when i first built my list years ago.

Do ppl still use kroot or would I be better off not spending time painting them (or even buying paints since they have diff colour schemes to tau)
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22195 Posts
April 25 2017 18:35 GMT
#87
On April 26 2017 03:26 ZeromuS wrote:
Cool.

I've also got a bunch of Kroot since they came in the starter box way back when i first built my list years ago.

Do ppl still use kroot or would I be better off not spending time painting them (or even buying paints since they have diff colour schemes to tau)

Kroot are often used because they are the cheapest way to fill your troop slots.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
April 25 2017 18:43 GMT
#88
On April 26 2017 03:35 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2017 03:26 ZeromuS wrote:
Cool.

I've also got a bunch of Kroot since they came in the starter box way back when i first built my list years ago.

Do ppl still use kroot or would I be better off not spending time painting them (or even buying paints since they have diff colour schemes to tau)

Kroot are often used because they are the cheapest way to fill your troop slots.


So I dont have obsolete models awesome! I remember at one point they were going to pull them from the tau codex or something, so good to know.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
April 25 2017 19:23 GMT
#89
On April 26 2017 03:43 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2017 03:35 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 26 2017 03:26 ZeromuS wrote:
Cool.

I've also got a bunch of Kroot since they came in the starter box way back when i first built my list years ago.

Do ppl still use kroot or would I be better off not spending time painting them (or even buying paints since they have diff colour schemes to tau)

Kroot are often used because they are the cheapest way to fill your troop slots.


So I dont have obsolete models awesome! I remember at one point they were going to pull them from the tau codex or something, so good to know.
I don't know if they're any good anymore but a while ago the competitive mech tau lists would run 2 units of 10 because they were cheap at 70 points and could infiltrate into woods to get a 4+ cover save and act as close-combat speed bumps while your hammerheads and XV8s melted everything.
TwiggyWan
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
France336 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-25 20:58:14
April 25 2017 20:57 GMT
#90
On April 26 2017 00:25 ZeromuS wrote:
As for paints, are there good cheap alternatives to the actual GW ones? Because they are a bit pricey and once I get out of my studio and into a slightly larger space I'll have room to paint again later in the summer. But all my pots are dead now, I'm sure of it haha


+1 for Vallejo
No bad days
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-25 23:34:02
April 25 2017 23:22 GMT
#91
If water isn't enough to revive the paint, a few drops of Vallejo Airbrush Thinner will do the trick.
(Don't use too much though or you'll end up with a wash )

edit:
To stay on topic, my army choice:
Almost exclusively Inquisition, because nothing lights a room like burning heretics! xD
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-26 05:56:45
April 26 2017 04:15 GMT
#92
Well, if you want to get into wargaming I would seriously advise against going with GW. They've already killed Fantasy with Age of Shitmar, they don't give a damn about their customers, they don't care even a little bit about balance (money > balance) and it's all totally unpredictable. Their release schedule is shit (some armies get new codices every year while others have to wait years to get an update), there is plenty of min-maxing going on and it's generally unhealthy.

If you have to go with GW, I'd go with Speehs Mahreens since they're the GW poster boys and are guaranteed to have fairly regular releases.

I've said my farewells to GW and never looked back since. Now I'm playing games that have much better rules and much better models.

Here are some alternatives:

WarmaHordes - steampunk/fantasy with ruleset designed with tournaments in minds. It's fairly well balanced and quite entertaining. Models are OK. There's plenty of WMH players switching over to Infinity though as some of the old-timers are a bit fed up with it.
https://www.wyrd-games.net/malifaux/

Malifaux - steampunk horror. Pretty nifty skirmish game with decent rules and some of the most gorgeous models you've ever seen.
https://www.wyrd-games.net/malifaux/

Infinity - sci-fi awesomeness. I love absolutely everything about this game. The rules are great, balance is good and the models... Damn, the models...

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It has a bit of anime vibe, but I like it (Ghost in the Shell was a pretty big inspiration for it). The rules are completely free too.
http://infinitythegame.com/

On April 26 2017 01:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I heard some random rumor for 40k end times, real or no?

unrelated to 40k but why have I seen so many people rage on sigmar(9th edition)?


Rulebook is 4 pages long (yes, that's four). Do I need to go into further details?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 26 2017 10:10 GMT
#93
I don't play but from what I've heard, GW has really turned a corner after the departure of whatever their last head was... Kirby something or other.

Actually communicating with customers now, reviving specialist games, previewing rules... And Age of Sigmar is even considered to be not quite a disaster anymore with the general's handbook and what not actually providing you know, rules.

Again, I don't play but they seem less shit than in previous years.

Infinity is really cool though, only played a tiny bit but was really fun and it's nice not to need to paint 150 models but like 15 instead. Sadly no time for any of this ; [
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22195 Posts
April 26 2017 10:17 GMT
#94
The start of AoS was a complete disaster. Supposedly it is now a lot better but I havnt played it (They released a "Generals handbook" which added point costs).
I'll wait and see how the new 40k edition turns out.

And yes Infinity is a lot of fun, sadly not enough players at my local club to have diverse games.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24601 Posts
April 26 2017 11:27 GMT
#95
Have you ever considered playing one of their other games which require fewer miniatures? Games like Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim or my personal favorite Blood Bowl? The main box basically contains all you need in it and you can also quite easily order cheaper but usable models from China and whatnot.

Also:


Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™


X.x
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
April 26 2017 12:55 GMT
#96
AoS from a competitive point is still trash. The lists are completely unfun to play with or against and the amount of thought put into playing is minimal. Good game for beer/pretzels tho. I am thankful for AoS so i don't feel compelled to come back due to nostalgia/lore.

I echo Manitou's sentiment for the most part. I am currently playing malifaux the most and it's a top notch game, specially if you have a good community around. I was very skeptic at first, but the game has a lot of depth and being a mix of "card/skirmish game" makes it surprisingly fun.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
April 26 2017 14:31 GMT
#97
On April 26 2017 20:27 Heartland wrote:
Have you ever considered playing one of their other games which require fewer miniatures? Games like Battlefleet Gothic, Mordheim or my personal favorite Blood Bowl? The main box basically contains all you need in it and you can also quite easily order cheaper but usable models from China and whatnot.

Also:

Show nested quote +

Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™


X.x


I do play all of those games, but they have some problems...

BFG - it's pretty much dead. Ultra hard to get minis, even harder to find people to play with (I have 3 fleets and we play it from time to time with friends). Especially now that stuff like Star Wars: X-Wing came along. Also, there's a computer version now.

Mordheim - ahh, the old favorite of mine. I'm still playing it occasionally with friends (currently in the middle of painting a new warband) but the rules are pretty shit and we're all moving to Malifaux, which is the same but better in basically every regard.

BB - sure, but I can simply play the computer game instead. Much easier, faster and doesn't take up my precious space on the shelves. Time at the club is better spent playing Infinity or Malifaux.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
May 05 2017 00:05 GMT
#98


Whats better then space marines?

Super space marines.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
May 05 2017 12:50 GMT
#99
Meh
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2604 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 13:03:23
May 05 2017 13:02 GMT
#100
They screwed up the new Bloodbowl so much.
Rules are okay but no new models except the 8 or 9 teams they have right now.
Not even the stats are in the core rulebook, nor the rules for lague play.

e: infinite looks really nice :O
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
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