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JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
October 21 2014 09:58 GMT
#281
I am looking forward to this since it's announcement. Just release it and take my money!
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 21 2014 10:10 GMT
#282
On October 21 2014 18:58 JazVM wrote:
I am looking forward to this since it's announcement. Just release it and take my money!


They already took mine. I don't pre-purchase a lot and I'm always prepared to be disappointed when I do (I usually am), I would have bought this game a second after release anyways
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
October 21 2014 10:15 GMT
#283
This will probably be my entry into the Civilization franchise. So excited, heard a lot of great things!
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 21 2014 10:31 GMT
#284
With EU4: The Art of War releasing the week after BE, I wonder if I'll do anything on my free time other than playing games
EZ4ENCE
Tzyx
Profile Joined August 2010
Northern Ireland281 Posts
October 21 2014 10:40 GMT
#285
So hyped for this it's gonna be awesome!

"Our ancestors harnessed the power of a sun, and so again shall we."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 21 2014 14:20 GMT
#286
On October 21 2014 16:43 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 12:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
Have they said anything about multiplayer?


"We've improved it" basically.

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 11:28 Sub40APM wrote:
one thing that I dont like after watching a couple of Maddjin's preview build games is how easy the game seems. On Diety he has made numerous mistakes in several of his playthroughs and the ai has not punished him.


Maddjinn commented on the issue on civfanatics, saying the game's top difficulty (apollo) is on the level of Civ5 Emperor.

Very disappointing fact for me if true.

But I'm not surprised, the game looks easy as fuck on his lets plays. I've already bet I'll beat Apollo on my first play...

Maybe I'll play more MP this time.


"improved it" oh brother
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
October 21 2014 14:33 GMT
#287
On October 21 2014 23:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 16:43 rezoacken wrote:
On October 21 2014 12:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
Have they said anything about multiplayer?


"We've improved it" basically.

On October 21 2014 11:28 Sub40APM wrote:
one thing that I dont like after watching a couple of Maddjin's preview build games is how easy the game seems. On Diety he has made numerous mistakes in several of his playthroughs and the ai has not punished him.


Maddjinn commented on the issue on civfanatics, saying the game's top difficulty (apollo) is on the level of Civ5 Emperor.

Very disappointing fact for me if true.

But I'm not surprised, the game looks easy as fuck on his lets plays. I've already bet I'll beat Apollo on my first play...

Maybe I'll play more MP this time.


"improved it" oh brother


well the higher difficuties = AI get more free stuff than the player, not the AI making better and smarter decisions. So you can technically play deity level by intentionally handicap your self.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 21 2014 14:39 GMT
#288
On October 21 2014 23:33 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 23:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 21 2014 16:43 rezoacken wrote:
On October 21 2014 12:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
Have they said anything about multiplayer?


"We've improved it" basically.

On October 21 2014 11:28 Sub40APM wrote:
one thing that I dont like after watching a couple of Maddjin's preview build games is how easy the game seems. On Diety he has made numerous mistakes in several of his playthroughs and the ai has not punished him.


Maddjinn commented on the issue on civfanatics, saying the game's top difficulty (apollo) is on the level of Civ5 Emperor.

Very disappointing fact for me if true.

But I'm not surprised, the game looks easy as fuck on his lets plays. I've already bet I'll beat Apollo on my first play...

Maybe I'll play more MP this time.


"improved it" oh brother


well the higher difficuties = AI get more free stuff than the player, not the AI making better and smarter decisions. So you can technically play deity level by intentionally handicap your self.


I think you quoted the wrong person, we're talking about Multiplayer.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
October 21 2014 14:41 GMT
#289
I don't mind the lower difficulty that much. When I played Civ V I usually prefered to play on lower difficulty and just do crazy stuff. Deity just left so little room to have fun imo.
Go big, or go home!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 21 2014 14:45 GMT
#290
On October 21 2014 19:15 Motlu wrote:
This will probably be my entry into the Civilization franchise. So excited, heard a lot of great things!

You should definitely go play Civ 3(my favorite personally) and Alpha Centauri if you can find a copy/get it to work on your pc
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
October 21 2014 15:25 GMT
#291
On October 21 2014 23:41 Tarias wrote:
I don't mind the lower difficulty that much. When I played Civ V I usually prefered to play on lower difficulty and just do crazy stuff. Deity just left so little room to have fun imo.


Deity in C5 was a joke compared to earlier iterations of the game. I believe I managed to achieve every possible win condition on deity in C5 during the first week of playing it, and I never was very good at civ...

On October 21 2014 23:45 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 19:15 Motlu wrote:
This will probably be my entry into the Civilization franchise. So excited, heard a lot of great things!

You should definitely go play Civ 3(my favorite personally) and Alpha Centauri if you can find a copy/get it to work on your pc


You can get AC from GOG. Best civ game ever.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 21 2014 15:27 GMT
#292
On October 21 2014 16:43 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 12:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
Have they said anything about multiplayer?


"We've improved it" basically.

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 11:28 Sub40APM wrote:
one thing that I dont like after watching a couple of Maddjin's preview build games is how easy the game seems. On Diety he has made numerous mistakes in several of his playthroughs and the ai has not punished him.


Maddjinn commented on the issue on civfanatics, saying the game's top difficulty (apollo) is on the level of Civ5 Emperor.

Very disappointing fact for me if true.

But I'm not surprised, the game looks easy as fuck on his lets plays. I've already bet I'll beat Apollo on my first play...

Maybe I'll play more MP this time.

Just Emperor? Wow that objectively sucks.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
October 21 2014 18:26 GMT
#293
Yeah. They have room for improvement though. Civ5 vanilla AI was far from stellar.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 18:45:49
October 21 2014 18:45 GMT
#294
Hope its more "Alpha Centauri 2" than "Civ5 in Space."
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
October 21 2014 18:55 GMT
#295
I didn't play AC but I'm fairly sure BE will be closer to civ5 than smac which was closer to civ2 afaik. You can always watch LPs and make your opinion.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
October 21 2014 19:00 GMT
#296
On October 22 2014 03:26 rezoacken wrote:
Yeah. They have room for improvement though. Civ5 vanilla AI was far from stellar.


I would argue AI in every single game out there is sub-par and don't pose a real challenge to any competent human players, hence why on higher difficulties the human is gimped and the AI is given freebies. The day when AI can think like a human is the day Skynet strikes I guess.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21685 Posts
October 21 2014 19:16 GMT
#297
On October 22 2014 04:00 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 03:26 rezoacken wrote:
Yeah. They have room for improvement though. Civ5 vanilla AI was far from stellar.


I would argue AI in every single game out there is sub-par and don't pose a real challenge to any competent human players, hence why on higher difficulties the human is gimped and the AI is given freebies. The day when AI can think like a human is the day Skynet strikes I guess.

There are giant limits to AI in turn based strategy games.
There is very little an AI can do to gain an edge, there is no reaction speeds and the best it can ever do is a perfectly executed build order.
Without cheating the best AI possible is still only just as good as a human.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 21 2014 19:28 GMT
#298
Galactic Civilization 2 AI was still miles better than Civ. They definatelly have room to improve.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11836 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 19:29:17
October 21 2014 19:28 GMT
#299
On October 22 2014 04:16 Gorsameth wrote:
There are giant limits to AI in turn based strategy games.
...
Without cheating the best AI possible is still only just as good as a human.


I will disagree with this. Chess is a turn based game. AI handily beats humans in it.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 19:43:01
October 21 2014 19:38 GMT
#300
On October 22 2014 04:28 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 04:16 Gorsameth wrote:
There are giant limits to AI in turn based strategy games.
...
Without cheating the best AI possible is still only just as good as a human.


I will disagree with this. Chess is a turn based game. AI handily beats humans in it.

But chess is a game where all rules are knows beforehand and the entire playing field is visible all the time.

In civ, you don't always see the entire map (the lay-out, location of other players, location of resources and so on). So in that sense, making good AI for games like Civ could be hard
EZ4ENCE
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