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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
October 12 2006 21:40 GMT
#321
Chessbase server is going down.

Where are you guys watching it ?
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 12 2006 21:42 GMT
#322
worldchess web site server is also down.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 12 2006 21:43 GMT
#323
http://www.worldchess2006.com/main.asp?cat=4&id=918
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 12 2006 21:44 GMT
#324
WTF is going on?
Mafia?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 12 2006 21:44 GMT
#325
Yes One Page Memory, that site is down.
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 12 2006 21:45 GMT
#326
This is not so updated, but better than nothing

http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3424
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 12 2006 21:52 GMT
#327

Now, ok
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
October 12 2006 21:53 GMT
#328
back now
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 12 2006 22:09 GMT
#329
Yay Topa wins!
Now I want a draw!
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
October 12 2006 23:12 GMT
#330
KRAMNIK !
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 12 2006 23:15 GMT
#331
And Kramnik takes game 4, 2,5-1,5 in rapid winning the match!
All hail the World Champion!
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
October 12 2006 23:34 GMT
#332
Gongrats to Kramnik. Finally we have a unified champion.I feel very sorry for Topalov , becouse now everybody is gonna mock him,taking away from him the attacking chess he played during the games. I hope FIDE gives Topa a re vs Kramnik.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
October 13 2006 00:03 GMT
#333
aw, if topa had won we could have seen more controversy >_>

oh well, i guess kramnik won't be stupidly sueing after all
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 13 2006 04:13 GMT
#334
Congratz to Mr. Kramnik!!!
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
October 13 2006 05:31 GMT
#335
ggnr
Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
October 13 2006 06:40 GMT
#336
Re will be big mistake by FIDE and I doubt that they will make such an event.
As a countryman I was for Topalov, also was on his side about scandals, but I like more Kramnik's style of playing and think Kramnik is overall better player.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
ssj100
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan320 Posts
October 13 2006 06:50 GMT
#337
Vladimir Kramnik is the world chess champion. End of story. No more FIDE world champion, Classical world champion, just simply and plainly world chess champion.

I would like to see Alexander Morozevich, currently ranked 5th in the world, to play the world chess champion in a match. But realistically, Vishy Anand should be the next challenger. Would be great to see the re-institution of the Interzonal and Candidates' Tournament.

Also Magnus Carlsen is looking very dangerous at age 15, now ranked 21st in the world with ELO 2698.. Will he be the next breakthrough in chess?
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-13 09:46:10
October 13 2006 09:39 GMT
#338
i like the way topa play his game; it's all about war and aggressiveness. i like it that way, however, experience-wise vladi had the edge.

only time will tell
Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
October 14 2006 12:22 GMT
#339
I would like to see Alexander Morozevich, currently ranked 5th in the world, to play the world chess champion in a match.


Well, I believe that he's part of the Mexico tournament, so it's possible. And with his sizzling 2916(!) performance (5/6 I believe) in the ECC, he moves into what should be 4th place. However, most of the players he beat were 'merely' 2600 players, so people won't take him seriously until he shows some ability against the elite. I like his play, and seriously hope that his talent can mature.
IIICodeIIIIIII
Profile Joined April 2006
China1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-18 21:54:00
December 18 2006 21:53 GMT
#340
Amazing new development on Topalov revealing that the match was fixed and that "Kremlin and the Russian KGB (on Kramnik's side) [...] threatened him and his team physically" during the game.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3553

Topalov: the Kremlin won't admit that Kramnik cheated...
19.12.2006 "...or that they killed that Russian spy." In a startling interview with a Spanish daily Veselin Topalov (not Silvio Danailov, Topalov!) has launched a new wave of attacks against the winner of the Elista world championship Vladimir Kramnik, claiming that everything was orchestrated by the Kremlin and KGB, which also threatened him and his team physically. Read and be amazed.

Summary

The interview begins with a brief description of his life and career in Spain. Then it turns to the scandal at the World Championship match in Elista. Topalov says there were "clear indications of cheating" in the way Kramnik went to the bathroom, came out and played instantly. Cables were found in the ceiling of the bathroom, but the Topalov team kept quiet "for many reasons." Topalov specifies that "there were threats", that the airport was closed and his team was worried how they could get out of Russia.

Topalov believes that Kramnik's team did not know what was going on. He was getting help not from them but from Russian who were not part of the chess world – from non-professional chess players or from the KGB. But "the Kremlin will never admit they poisoned that Russian spy, which seems obvious, or that Kramnik cheated." Topalov says he felt he was in physical danger and will not go back to Kalmykia again. President Ilyumzhinov was not personally responsible for what transpired, he was acting on orders.

The method of cheating, says Topalov, was improved during the latter part of the match, and in fact played a decisive role in the tiebreak games. There "they had a foolproof system", and in the fourth game Kramnik "made a move that would only occur to a computer." Topalov guesses that his opponent was using an electronic device hidden on his body. "With the technology the Russians have, Kramnik will be invincible in a match." Topalov believes that Kramnik wants to keep the title without defending it over the board, and predicts that he will not play in Mexico.

In the interview there is repeated mention of "cables". These were allegedly found in Kramnik's bathroom early during the match. We will follow up on this story. For today the interview, which was carefully translated by Mig Greengard in Chess Ninja. We have included the original Spanish for some of the key passages. The interview was conducted for the Spanish daily newspaper ABC by Federico Marin Bellon in Bilbao, after the end of the blindfold match Topalov-Judit Polgar. A link to the original interview is given at the bottom of this page.
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