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HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
December 18 2006 22:47 GMT
#341
We saw the internet cables in Kramnik's toilet, so ...
Listen to The Special One
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-18 23:00:16
December 18 2006 22:56 GMT
#342
What cables ?

Topalov really needs to stfu and start presenting some real back up evidence, instead of just sitting there and doing cry baby accusing everyone OJ Simpson style.

And he talks about the weird moves Kramnik made, but what about the STUPID moves he made that threw wins and lost the chance to draw games, like that f6 pawn move ?

Let's say Kramnik cheated during the 12 games, how can Toplaov justify his loss in the tie breakers ? Scared of physical damage ? Gimme a break man.

Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-19 01:11:20
December 18 2006 23:47 GMT
#343
The proof is ample and obvious. The problem is that so many people prefer to ignore it (see the post below) and talk trash .

Direct proof:

1. Official protocol, stating that inernet (UTP-5) cables were found under the ceiling tiles of Kramnik's toilet, signed by the match director, the chief arbiter, 2 members of the delegation (Makropoulos and Bovaev) and Topalov's manager.

2. Photoraph of the cables, published in non-tabloid newspapers (Trud(leading Bulgarian newspaper), Marca and possibly others).

3. Videotapes showing Kramnik visited toilet before each move and closed the door.

4. Guilty reaction of Kramnik and his manager which did everything to stop showing those tapes to journalists.

Indirect proof:

1. Analysis showing that Kramnik's moves corresponded to Fritz when he visited toilet, and were different from Fritz when he didn't.

The fact that ChessBase and Russian media did everything to suppres this evidence shows how corrupt and biased are chess administrators and media that reports the events. The opinions here show that a great percentage of their readers are biased too.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 19 2006 00:16 GMT
#344
I don't know what's funnier, Topalov going fishcer-esque crazy or all the Bulgarians that stand by their countryman. Wait, neither is funny.. both are quite sad..
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
December 19 2006 00:43 GMT
#345
On December 19 2006 09:16 BlackJack wrote:
I don't know what's funnier, Topalov going fishcer-esque crazy or all the Bulgarians that stand by their countryman. Wait, neither is funny.. both are quite sad..


Yeah, it's very sad people ignore evidence and just talk crap...
I'll call Nada.
celegans
Profile Joined November 2006
Germany30 Posts
December 19 2006 02:42 GMT
#346
There simply is no evidence. I hope Kramnik will take this to court. A direct accuse of cheating is not funny anymore.
Cables in the toilett. -_-;;. Yeah i bet those cables really helped Kramnik alot.
You guys should read what mig from chessninjas wrote about the interview. There is really nothing else to say.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 19 2006 02:58 GMT
#347
well i am very suspicious of this, certainly deserves an unbiased and detailed investigation.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
zobeide
Profile Joined November 2006
United States20 Posts
December 21 2006 02:29 GMT
#348
On December 19 2006 07:56 lightman wrote:
Let's say Kramnik cheated during the 12 games, how can Toplaov justify his loss in the tie breakers ?
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CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
December 21 2006 05:56 GMT
#349
it's common to put network cables in the ceiling...
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
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