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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 06 2015 17:25 GMT
#11061
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 06 2015 17:27 GMT
#11062
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

We literally just had MoP
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 06 2015 17:28 GMT
#11063
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?


Theres so many existing characters in the lore that no one doesn't give a fuck about new villains. Shouldn't at least.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
August 06 2015 17:28 GMT
#11064
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

MoP was entirely new. Yes Garrosh was in previous expansions but did not exist prior to WoW. unlike every other major boss we have had.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
August 06 2015 17:30 GMT
#11065
My biggest question mark atm is with regards to weapons.
With artifact weapons are we going to use the same (more or less) weapon from start to finish? Are weapons drops going to exist and if so are they useless? (See cloak drops in SoO for example but then an entire expansion long).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 06 2015 17:33 GMT
#11066
On August 07 2015 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
My biggest question mark atm is with regards to weapons.
With artifact weapons are we going to use the same (more or less) weapon from start to finish? Are weapons drops going to exist and if so are they useless? (See cloak drops in SoO for example but then an entire expansion long).

They're probably gonna be useless like Cloaks in SoO / Rings in WoD
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2015 17:37 GMT
#11067
On August 07 2015 02:33 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
My biggest question mark atm is with regards to weapons.
With artifact weapons are we going to use the same (more or less) weapon from start to finish? Are weapons drops going to exist and if so are they useless? (See cloak drops in SoO for example but then an entire expansion long).

They're probably gonna be useless like Cloaks in SoO / Rings in WoD

Given that there's an entire talent tree built into it, I'm 100% sure they're going to encourage you to use them.
It's your boy Guzma!
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 17:38:42
August 06 2015 17:37 GMT
#11068
So... our Gul'dan went to claim the eye of Sargeras, but got murdered by a bunch of demons. Then Illidan showed him up, got the eye, but failed and was killed in Outland. And now time travelling Gul'dan comes to our world... and resurrects Illidan, who also has the skull of our Gul'dan?
Sup.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
August 06 2015 17:41 GMT
#11069
On August 07 2015 02:37 dudeman001 wrote:
So... our Gul'dan went to claim the eye of Sargeras, but got murdered by a bunch of demons. Then Illidan showed him up, got the eye, but failed and was killed in Outland. And now time travelling Gul'dan comes to our world... and resurrects Illidan?
Yep :p
Made all the more funny by the fact that AU Gul'dan is imo a weaker version then our original Gul'dan who did not survive the Tomb of Sargeras :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 17:45:51
August 06 2015 17:45 GMT
#11070
Yeah but all the demons in the tomb are probably dead by the time AU Gul'Dan got there, first those killed in main universe Gul'Dan's expedition. Then by Illadin's naga, then by Maeiv's wardens and then a shit ton of rocks.

The main lesson of warcraft is that when all else fails, a shit ton of rocks will do the work.
Glorious SEA doto
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2015 17:48 GMT
#11071
So are they retconning this to be our Illidan? Maybe Maeve just locked him away again instead of killing him?
It's your boy Guzma!
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 17:53:49
August 06 2015 17:52 GMT
#11072
On August 07 2015 02:48 Requizen wrote:
So are they retconning this to be our Illidan? Maybe Maeve just locked him away again instead of killing him?


Back in time Gul'dan found a version of Illidan there and brought him over

Edit: And he was like, yeah, this is how demon hunters work
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 17:56:59
August 06 2015 17:56 GMT
#11073
On August 07 2015 02:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

We literally just had MoP


Yes but Garosh wasn't new. I was just talking about big end vilain

EDIT : or it seem he was ?

On August 07 2015 02:28 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?


Theres so many existing characters in the lore that no one doesn't give a fuck about new villains. Shouldn't at least.


That was part of my question Maybe it's just that no one wants something new i guess.

On August 07 2015 02:28 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

MoP was entirely new. Yes Garrosh was in previous expansions but did not exist prior to WoW. unlike every other major boss we have had.


Garrosh existed in Warcraft no ? i remember hellscream from warcraft 1 or 2 ?

#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
August 06 2015 17:57 GMT
#11074
Its told on the new Legion website. Maive took dead illdans body and imprisoned it so his soul could still not rest (or something like that) and then Gul'dan breaks into the prison to resurrect him. (as shown in the teaser video)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
August 06 2015 17:59 GMT
#11075
On August 07 2015 02:56 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:27 Drazerk wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

We literally just had MoP


Yes but Garosh wasn't new. I was just talking about big end vilain

EDIT : or it seem he was ?

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:28 Grettin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?


Theres so many existing characters in the lore that no one doesn't give a fuck about new villains. Shouldn't at least.


That was part of my question Maybe it's just that no one wants something new i guess.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:28 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

MoP was entirely new. Yes Garrosh was in previous expansions but did not exist prior to WoW. unlike every other major boss we have had.


Garrosh existed in Warcraft no ? i remember hellscream from warcraft 1 or 2 ?

Grommash (grom) Hellscream was from wacraft 1-3. There was I believe no mention of his son Garrosh. We only learn about him during the Burning Crusade when we go to Outlands and encounter him. (Horde does anyway. Alliance doesnt I believe)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
August 06 2015 18:00 GMT
#11076
On August 07 2015 02:52 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:48 Requizen wrote:
So are they retconning this to be our Illidan? Maybe Maeve just locked him away again instead of killing him?


Back in time Gul'dan found a version of Illidan there and brought him over

Edit: And he was like, yeah, this is how demon hunters work

Wut?

That makes no sense. In fact, from a lore point of view, this expansion looks to be making even less sense than WoD. But the new mechanics sound interesting. Then again, I thought the same of WoD when I first saw the hype teaser.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2015 18:00 GMT
#11077
On August 07 2015 02:56 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:27 Drazerk wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

We literally just had MoP


Yes but Garosh wasn't new. I was just talking about big end vilain

EDIT : or it seem he was ?

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:28 Grettin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?


Theres so many existing characters in the lore that no one doesn't give a fuck about new villains. Shouldn't at least.


That was part of my question Maybe it's just that no one wants something new i guess.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:28 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

MoP was entirely new. Yes Garrosh was in previous expansions but did not exist prior to WoW. unlike every other major boss we have had.


Garrosh existed in Warcraft no ? i remember hellscream from warcraft 1 or 2 ?


Grom (his father, that was in Warlords) was in Warcraft. Garrosh was first seen in Burning Crusade.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2015 18:00 GMT
#11078
On August 07 2015 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:
Its told on the new Legion website. Maive took dead illdans body and imprisoned it so his soul could still not rest (or something like that) and then Gul'dan breaks into the prison to resurrect him. (as shown in the teaser video)

That makes some amount of sense... Maieve is a bitch like that.
It's your boy Guzma!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 06 2015 18:25 GMT
#11079
On August 07 2015 02:59 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:56 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:27 Drazerk wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

We literally just had MoP


Yes but Garosh wasn't new. I was just talking about big end vilain

EDIT : or it seem he was ?

On August 07 2015 02:28 Grettin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?


Theres so many existing characters in the lore that no one doesn't give a fuck about new villains. Shouldn't at least.


That was part of my question Maybe it's just that no one wants something new i guess.

On August 07 2015 02:28 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?

MoP was entirely new. Yes Garrosh was in previous expansions but did not exist prior to WoW. unlike every other major boss we have had.


Garrosh existed in Warcraft no ? i remember hellscream from warcraft 1 or 2 ?

Grommash (grom) Hellscream was from wacraft 1-3. There was I believe no mention of his son Garrosh. We only learn about him during the Burning Crusade when we go to Outlands and encounter him. (Horde does anyway. Alliance doesnt I believe)


OOOoooohhhh ok
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
August 06 2015 18:31 GMT
#11080
demon hunters.

that's all i really need man.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
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