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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 06 2015 18:45 GMT
#11081
On August 07 2015 02:52 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:48 Requizen wrote:
So are they retconning this to be our Illidan? Maybe Maeve just locked him away again instead of killing him?


Back in time Gul'dan found a version of Illidan there and brought him over

Edit: And he was like, yeah, this is how demon hunters work

I thought Guldan dies in the cutscene at the end of the archimonde fight?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 18:48:13
August 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#11082
On August 07 2015 03:45 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:52 REyeM wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:48 Requizen wrote:
So are they retconning this to be our Illidan? Maybe Maeve just locked him away again instead of killing him?


Back in time Gul'dan found a version of Illidan there and brought him over

Edit: And he was like, yeah, this is how demon hunters work

I thought Guldan dies in the cutscene at the end of the archimonde fight?

He gets thrown through a portal by Archimonde just before the latter dies.
I assumed he was send to a legion world for punishment but I guess it was our Azeroth?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
August 06 2015 18:53 GMT
#11083
On August 07 2015 03:46 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:45 Warri wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:52 REyeM wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:48 Requizen wrote:
So are they retconning this to be our Illidan? Maybe Maeve just locked him away again instead of killing him?


Back in time Gul'dan found a version of Illidan there and brought him over

Edit: And he was like, yeah, this is how demon hunters work

I thought Guldan dies in the cutscene at the end of the archimonde fight?

He gets thrown through a portal by Archimonde just before the latter dies.
I assumed he was send to a legion world for punishment but I guess it was our Azeroth?


They should have just made it like, hey while we were busy in an alternative time dimension fighting on Dreanor, someone in real time has stumbled upon Tomb of Sergeras and opened portal for burning legion invasion
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 19:01:17
August 06 2015 19:00 GMT
#11084
Damon Jagers confirmed Melee heroes as dps spec or they going as tank.
This expansion going to be LK 2.0 xD

End raid boss surely is Illidan right? Kill Guldan in raid no 2 (aka black hand) incomes Illidan for the end.

PvPers, is this new system good? For me as a non PvPer it seems good, i like the system but does it appeal to PvPers at the moment?
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 19:29:49
August 06 2015 19:08 GMT
#11085
On August 07 2015 04:00 Pandemona wrote:
End raid boss surely is Illidan right? Kill Guldan in raid no 2 (aka black hand) incomes Illidan for the end.


Could be Illidan, could be Sargeras, avatar of him or any Burning Legion boss (Kil'jaeden..)...Lots of options and way too early to be 100% at this point.

Even Jaina could be villain in this exp (See: not a raid boss).

Thing is, at this point this expansion feels like it WONT be a one-year expansion (So much stuff) and definitely would be lackluster if it only had two raid tiers. I'm betting on three tiers. Unless cut-cut-cut happens.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
August 06 2015 19:26 GMT
#11086
On August 07 2015 04:00 Pandemona wrote:

End raid boss surely is Illidan right? Kill Guldan in raid no 2 (aka black hand) incomes Illidan for the end.



I dont think so. I think I saw some art of Illidan fighting Guldan in the art.

I think he's an awesome character, people are pissed they made him a villain instead of an antihero, he's Anti-Legion and this expansion is against the Legion, we should keep him around, keep him badass, because we'll probably bitch and moan to bring him back again anyway.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
August 06 2015 19:28 GMT
#11087
On August 07 2015 04:08 Grettin wrote:Thing is, at this point it this expansion feels like it WONT be a one-year expansion (So much stuff) and definitely would be lackluster if it only had two raid tiers. I'm betting on three tiers. Unless cut-cut-cut happens.


It could completely be a one year expansion because I guarantee they're working on the expansion after Legion already. WoD wasn't even out and I saw tweets from one of the devs saying they were already working on the next one.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
August 06 2015 19:29 GMT
#11088
On August 07 2015 02:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
When was the last time we had a NEW vilain ? I'm sure they could add stuff to the lore. I don't get why they keep it in a box. It's like there is boundaries and they cannot go over them.

Maybe because people wouldn't like new stuff ? Maybe it's too difficult/takes to much time to do this. Or maybe there is not that many people that like the lore ?


Garrosh, and the Sha.

If we need a new villain, we could make Wrathion a villain, or those other black dragonflight dudes who are apparently corrupted?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
August 06 2015 19:32 GMT
#11089
On August 07 2015 04:28 Soan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:08 Grettin wrote:Thing is, at this point it this expansion feels like it WONT be a one-year expansion (So much stuff) and definitely would be lackluster if it only had two raid tiers. I'm betting on three tiers. Unless cut-cut-cut happens.


It could completely be a one year expansion because I guarantee they're working on the expansion after Legion already. WoD wasn't even out and I saw tweets from one of the devs saying they were already working on the next one.

Every expansion since TBC has been wanted to be a yearly expansion. WoD is the first one where they are looking to actually do it.
I fully expect legion to be a 1 year expansion. Tho that makes the huge amount of lore crammed into it even more silly.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 06 2015 19:32 GMT
#11090
On August 07 2015 04:28 Soan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:08 Grettin wrote:Thing is, at this point it this expansion feels like it WONT be a one-year expansion (So much stuff) and definitely would be lackluster if it only had two raid tiers. I'm betting on three tiers. Unless cut-cut-cut happens.


It could completely be a one year expansion because I guarantee they're working on the expansion after Legion already. WoD wasn't even out and I saw tweets from one of the devs saying they were already working on the next one.


Of course its a possibility. I just don't personally feel it right now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2015 19:34 GMT
#11091
On August 07 2015 04:32 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:28 Soan wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:08 Grettin wrote:Thing is, at this point it this expansion feels like it WONT be a one-year expansion (So much stuff) and definitely would be lackluster if it only had two raid tiers. I'm betting on three tiers. Unless cut-cut-cut happens.


It could completely be a one year expansion because I guarantee they're working on the expansion after Legion already. WoD wasn't even out and I saw tweets from one of the devs saying they were already working on the next one.

Every expansion since TBC has been wanted to be a yearly expansion. WoD is the first one where they are looking to actually do it.
I fully expect legion to be a 1 year expansion. Tho that makes the huge amount of lore crammed into it even more silly.

Could be a bunch of stuff to set up future expansions. Queen Azshara is going to show up, maybe she'll be just there to set up her expansion. Going to Neltharion's Lair? Setup for Dragon-based expansion in the future. I'm ok with that too.
It's your boy Guzma!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 19:44:50
August 06 2015 19:44 GMT
#11092
On August 07 2015 04:34 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:32 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:28 Soan wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:08 Grettin wrote:Thing is, at this point it this expansion feels like it WONT be a one-year expansion (So much stuff) and definitely would be lackluster if it only had two raid tiers. I'm betting on three tiers. Unless cut-cut-cut happens.


It could completely be a one year expansion because I guarantee they're working on the expansion after Legion already. WoD wasn't even out and I saw tweets from one of the devs saying they were already working on the next one.

Every expansion since TBC has been wanted to be a yearly expansion. WoD is the first one where they are looking to actually do it.
I fully expect legion to be a 1 year expansion. Tho that makes the huge amount of lore crammed into it even more silly.

Could be a bunch of stuff to set up future expansions. Queen Azshara is going to show up, maybe she'll be just there to set up her expansion. Going to Neltharion's Lair? Setup for Dragon-based expansion in the future. I'm ok with that too.


Definitely. All though, getting a Queen Azshara expansion after the biggest invasion of Burning Legion ever sounds dull if it's not mixed with bunch of other stuff, like Legion is.

I'm all for Dragons tho. FUCK YEAH DRAGONS!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18445 Posts
August 06 2015 19:44 GMT
#11093
On August 07 2015 04:26 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:00 Pandemona wrote:

End raid boss surely is Illidan right? Kill Guldan in raid no 2 (aka black hand) incomes Illidan for the end.



I dont think so. I think I saw some art of Illidan fighting Guldan in the art.

I think he's an awesome character, people are pissed they made him a villain instead of an antihero, he's Anti-Legion and this expansion is against the Legion, we should keep him around, keep him badass, because we'll probably bitch and moan to bring him back again anyway.


To be fair, the whole BC lore around Illidan was very weak, at best. If he was afraid of Kil'jaeden returning, why was he turning against all the allies he could have used (Shattrath, and all the horde and alliance adventurers flooding through the portal)?
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
August 06 2015 19:56 GMT
#11094
On August 07 2015 04:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:26 lestye wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:00 Pandemona wrote:

End raid boss surely is Illidan right? Kill Guldan in raid no 2 (aka black hand) incomes Illidan for the end.



I dont think so. I think I saw some art of Illidan fighting Guldan in the art.

I think he's an awesome character, people are pissed they made him a villain instead of an antihero, he's Anti-Legion and this expansion is against the Legion, we should keep him around, keep him badass, because we'll probably bitch and moan to bring him back again anyway.


To be fair, the whole BC lore around Illidan was very weak, at best. If he was afraid of Kil'jaeden returning, why was he turning against all the allies he could have used (Shattrath, and all the horde and alliance adventurers flooding through the portal)?


idk, Blizzard gave him the ol "... and he became mad" justification to make him a villain. That's why a lot of his fans are upset what they did to his character, a misunderstood anti-hero turns into a evil asshole loot pinata.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 06 2015 20:28 GMT
#11095
On August 07 2015 04:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:26 lestye wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:00 Pandemona wrote:

End raid boss surely is Illidan right? Kill Guldan in raid no 2 (aka black hand) incomes Illidan for the end.



I dont think so. I think I saw some art of Illidan fighting Guldan in the art.

I think he's an awesome character, people are pissed they made him a villain instead of an antihero, he's Anti-Legion and this expansion is against the Legion, we should keep him around, keep him badass, because we'll probably bitch and moan to bring him back again anyway.


To be fair, the whole BC lore around Illidan was very weak, at best. If he was afraid of Kil'jaeden returning, why was he turning against all the allies he could have used (Shattrath, and all the horde and alliance adventurers flooding through the portal)?


That view overlooks the fact that his forces were made up largely of demons and fel orcs, he himself was half-demon, and he had a crazy plan to build a new Well of Eternity. There was also plenty of enmity between him and the Night Elves, and it's not like Thrall and company would have been thrilled to ally with someone actively corrupting what was left of the orcs in Outland.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 06 2015 20:37 GMT
#11096
God fucking dammit...I'm gonna have to come back for this, aren't I?

FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 06 2015 22:22 GMT
#11097
the biggest problem with this expansion



they made sylvanas wear more clothes now wtf no more sexmog broken game
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 06 2015 22:40 GMT
#11098
Mmhh get to be pretty happy about my own mechanics when my Archangel uptime averages over 58% over 17 boss fights, a couple with over 60%.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 06 2015 23:46 GMT
#11099
On August 07 2015 07:22 FinestHour wrote:
the biggest problem with this expansion



they made sylvanas wear more clothes now wtf no more sexmog broken game


for the feminists mi lorde
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 07 2015 00:45 GMT
#11100
ill tip a fedora to that
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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