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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 05 2015 11:40 GMT
#10541


yep.
ffxiv enjoyer
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 05 2015 14:06 GMT
#10542
paragon kills Xhul'Horac
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 05 2015 14:26 GMT
#10543
reading the mythic abilities for mannoroth, that looks like a real bitch of a fight.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 05 2015 19:26 GMT
#10544
does anyone here use the curse client for managing and updating addons easily or something similar
getting tired of searching each one manually takes forever etc
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
July 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#10545
On July 06 2015 04:26 FinestHour wrote:
does anyone here use the curse client for managing and updating addons easily or something similar
getting tired of searching each one manually takes forever etc

i use WoWMatrix on my mac since curse is incompatible.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#10546
To come back to the catch up topic from yesterday, looks like the 695 upgrade items are also dropping from rares and are boa. I got 2 today,.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
July 05 2015 20:22 GMT
#10547
On July 06 2015 05:10 Warri wrote:
To come back to the catch up topic from yesterday, looks like the 695 upgrade items are also dropping from rares and are boa. I got 2 today,.

Yeah they hotfixed them to be BoA a few days ago.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
July 05 2015 22:52 GMT
#10548
Hey guys, I took a break from WoW about a month before Tanaan was released. I've read that it's similar to Timeless Isle, but having never experienced Timeless Isle, I don't know what that means. Could someone help me out and give me a run-down on what the zone is about? I'm a huge fan of the questlines in WoD; does Tanaan have quest lines? Thanks yall.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
July 05 2015 23:00 GMT
#10549
Quest lines are minimal. Its basically a giant zone of Apexis dailies.Like half a dozen of em.
There are also actual daily quests that give Apexis(and rep).

Dropped from mobs are 650 ilvl items. You can also buy them from a vendor for Apexis.
Biggest thing is an item (bought with Apexis) that upgrades any of the 650 items to a 695 item, this is more then the new raid LFR will give.

So it is a giant catchup zone. It takes a bit of grinding but it will reward you with a near full set of 695 items.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 15:04:59
July 06 2015 13:25 GMT
#10550
On July 06 2015 05:10 Warri wrote:
To come back to the catch up topic from yesterday, looks like the 695 upgrade items are also dropping from rares and are boa. I got 2 today,.


Comments on wowhead concur, including them dropping off rares.

Which greatly affects the calculations I did previously for "how quickly can I gear up". Each upgrade token that drops is 2-4 days saved depending on your playstyle, With some luck it's not unlikely that you could gear up in a couple of weeks of concerted effort (especially if you're good at farming rares).

Edit: It's occurred to me that between a ton of alts and farming rares someone like me could probably get a full set of Baleful gear on a lazy Saturday.


In other news after installing Accountant and tracking my revenue I have to concur that the garrison gold nerf only reduced my income to roughly 70-80% of what it was. Which is to say I'm still making ridiculous amounts of gold and Blizzard probably needs to do another pass.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 06 2015 16:06 GMT
#10551
Don't give them ideas, we don't all get to enjoy 25k time tokens the US does.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 16:21:20
July 06 2015 16:20 GMT
#10552
Donno why people think the garrison gold is the crux. Running 3 Garrisons has gotten me 35k in 3 weeks (2 of them are not optimised). Meanwhile I have made over 100k by turning a herbs into flasks and selling them together with the bags my single tailor makes on the AH.

In the grand scheme I dont spend more time on the AH then I do on Missions.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 06 2015 16:42 GMT
#10553
On July 07 2015 01:20 Gorsameth wrote:
Donno why people think the garrison gold is the crux. Running 3 Garrisons has gotten me 35k in 3 weeks (2 of them are not optimised). Meanwhile I have made over 100k by turning a herbs into flasks and selling them together with the bags my single tailor makes on the AH.

In the grand scheme I dont spend more time on the AH then I do on Missions.

Because you dont generate gold. You get it from other players and some of it gets destroyed in the process (5% fee). That doesnt lead to inflation. The garrison on the other hand flat out prints gold out of nothing, resulting in more gold in circulation and in the end, higher prices.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 06 2015 17:00 GMT
#10554
On July 07 2015 01:20 Gorsameth wrote:
Donno why people think the garrison gold is the crux. Running 3 Garrisons has gotten me 35k in 3 weeks (2 of them are not optimised). Meanwhile I have made over 100k by turning a herbs into flasks and selling them together with the bags my single tailor makes on the AH.

In the grand scheme I dont spend more time on the AH then I do on Missions.


Garrison gold is a problem because it's created ex nihilo, and practically anyone can do it without limit. All AH gold comes from other players, and basic economics puts a strong limit on how many people can become fabulously rich that way.

So if tomorrow there were ten times as many players doing what I do with the garrison it wouldn't directly affect me, though it would eventually cause inflation and devalue my gold. Meanwhile, if tomorrow there were ten times as many players buying herbs for the purpose of selling flasks/bags the market would collapse and you'd no longer be making 100k every three weeks in AH sales.

That's why garrison gold is a problem.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
July 06 2015 17:13 GMT
#10555
My mistake for being unclear. I was replying to
Don't give them ideas, we don't all get to enjoy 25k time tokens the US does.
which is the idea that you need garrison gold to earn a lot of money.

You are both correct that for the overall economy Garrison gold is a bad thing.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 06 2015 17:40 GMT
#10556
On July 07 2015 02:13 Gorsameth wrote:
My mistake for being unclear. I was replying to
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Don't give them ideas, we don't all get to enjoy 25k time tokens the US does.
which is the idea that you need garrison gold to earn a lot of money.

You are both correct that for the overall economy Garrison gold is a bad thing.

Why is inflation bad though?

Garrison gold (missions and selling armor upgrades) enabled me to earn more gold than I ever need and buy WoW tokens to the maxiimum. Bascially made the game f2p while having to invest way less time than in "real" f2p games (Hearthstone, LoL etc).

What really bugs me though is that you can not put tokens in your bank and also not send it to alts. Now they clog my already crammed bags.
In general this game creates way too much crap that you have to carry around. Such a hassle in a game that is otherwise streamlined for convenience.
Off-season = best season
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 06 2015 19:42 GMT
#10557
Garrison gold abuse has made a small number of players fabulously rich while raising AH prices for everyone else.

If the price of tokens can be used as a measure of inflation (which is arguable, but it's probably the best we've got since the value of/demand for tokens should fluctuate far less than any other good sold on the AH) then the rate of inflation in the month leading up to patch 6.2 averaged 23% between the NA, EU and CN regions. With that level of inflation the value of gold could have dropped to half or less of its present value by Christmas.

That kind of inflation creates a situation wherein doing anything other than abusing garrisons or playing the AH leaves you poor. As fun as it is to be rich, it's not worth making the game less fun for everyone else.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 06 2015 20:37 GMT
#10558
I'm not getting rich, I'm paying my sub.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#10559
On July 07 2015 04:42 Seuss wrote:
Garrison gold abuse has made a small number of players fabulously rich while raising AH prices for everyone else.

If the price of tokens can be used as a measure of inflation (which is arguable, but it's probably the best we've got since the value of/demand for tokens should fluctuate far less than any other good sold on the AH) then the rate of inflation in the month leading up to patch 6.2 averaged 23% between the NA, EU and CN regions. With that level of inflation the value of gold could have dropped to half or less of its present value by Christmas.

That kind of inflation creates a situation wherein doing anything other than abusing garrisons or playing the AH leaves you poor. As fun as it is to be rich, it's not worth making the game less fun for everyone else.

In general you can also regard inflation as a catch-up mechanic for new players though. The rich dont stay rich forever, they have to keep making gold if they want to keep being rich and not just sit on it. It also is an incentive to spend gold which should promote trade overall.

Also idk why you say small number of players. Small number was true when the main income source was playing the auction house. The garrison is used by the majority of players I am pretty sure. With gradual differences in how much gold everyone makes with it.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 07 2015 00:01 GMT
#10560
First time doing challenge modes, made a guild group and got 8/8 in one evening, even one shot UBRS.
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