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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
December 05 2014 04:45 GMT
#6141
I'm only 97 and my garrison is sick...racks on racks on racks...Steelforged Dagger baby!
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 05:06:55
December 05 2014 05:05 GMT
#6142
On December 05 2014 11:20 Cyro wrote:
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On December 05 2014 11:13 bo1b wrote:
Well, our guild ended up doing 6/7 on normal in one night, gonna push the first 2-3 on heroic on sunday/monday. Overall our dps was pretty ok, ranged from 16-24k dps (fucking ret is bullshit good atm lol). Then again I'm prioritising giving pretty much all the loot to dps at this point, next week I'll probably have to give some to healers tanks, but at this point the faster the better.

I really like brackenspore as a boss, I think that is going to be seriously difficult come mythic.

I'm glad I stuck around with demo, a lot of the problems with it are aleviated with gear. If you play a lock, get a copeland's clarity asap as well.


With the difficulty of second boss on HC (our healers couldn't seem to handle it, as a DPS taking stacks i was blowing multiple defensive cooldowns and then dieing when they ran out) and then third boss being among the hardest in the whole raid, it's probably easier to finish off normal first

i think hc is tuned for 650, dropping ~670-679?

This is the mechanic:

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Every few seconds, The Butcher will detect the largest clump of players within melee range and cast Cleave on them, applying a stack of Gushing Wounds, a moderate bleed that lasts for fifteen seconds or until refreshed.


it simply hits for like, 90k plus bleed and is applied quite often to groups of ~4 people

We definitely will be finishing the last boss first. I'm 99% sure that heroic is tuned to about 635, a guild on my server has already got 7/7 heroic cleared, apparently they're world 6th on that though so they may not be an accurate litmus test.

I'm pretty sure mythic is tuned for 645 on the first boss and then scaling rapidly upwards. Tectus will be one of the hardest bosses ever put in the game is my prediction.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 05 2014 05:26 GMT
#6143
6/7 NORMAL TODAY
KORAGH WEAPON IS GUD XMOG
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 05 2014 05:27 GMT
#6144
On December 05 2014 14:05 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 11:20 Cyro wrote:
On December 05 2014 11:13 bo1b wrote:
Well, our guild ended up doing 6/7 on normal in one night, gonna push the first 2-3 on heroic on sunday/monday. Overall our dps was pretty ok, ranged from 16-24k dps (fucking ret is bullshit good atm lol). Then again I'm prioritising giving pretty much all the loot to dps at this point, next week I'll probably have to give some to healers tanks, but at this point the faster the better.

I really like brackenspore as a boss, I think that is going to be seriously difficult come mythic.

I'm glad I stuck around with demo, a lot of the problems with it are aleviated with gear. If you play a lock, get a copeland's clarity asap as well.


With the difficulty of second boss on HC (our healers couldn't seem to handle it, as a DPS taking stacks i was blowing multiple defensive cooldowns and then dieing when they ran out) and then third boss being among the hardest in the whole raid, it's probably easier to finish off normal first

i think hc is tuned for 650, dropping ~670-679?

This is the mechanic:

Every few seconds, The Butcher will detect the largest clump of players within melee range and cast Cleave on them, applying a stack of Gushing Wounds, a moderate bleed that lasts for fifteen seconds or until refreshed.


it simply hits for like, 90k plus bleed and is applied quite often to groups of ~4 people

We definitely will be finishing the last boss first. I'm 99% sure that heroic is tuned to about 635, a guild on my server has already got 7/7 heroic cleared, apparently they're world 6th on that though so they may not be an accurate litmus test.

I'm pretty sure mythic is tuned for 645 on the first boss and then scaling rapidly upwards. Tectus will be one of the hardest bosses ever put in the game is my prediction.


I think the regular raid is tuned for ~630 (lfr is tuned for 615 with some mechanics removed), hc is way harder then regular
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
December 05 2014 05:42 GMT
#6145
On December 05 2014 14:26 FinestHour wrote:
6/7 NORMAL TODAY
KORAGH WEAPON IS GUD XMOG


Sometime soon this will be my finest hour too~! <3
Support your esport!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 05:46:07
December 05 2014 05:45 GMT
#6146
first world problem my haste is too high and my mastery too low now with all the shitty itemization but yolo item level
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 05 2014 05:53 GMT
#6147
On December 05 2014 14:45 FinestHour wrote:
first world problem my haste is too high and my mastery too low now with all the shitty itemization but yolo item level


Yea you can say that again, no idea what blizzard is thinking when they make like 5 plate DPS items with Versatility and only one with mastery/multistrike
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2014 06:15 GMT
#6148
On December 05 2014 14:53 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 14:45 FinestHour wrote:
first world problem my haste is too high and my mastery too low now with all the shitty itemization but yolo item level


Yea you can say that again, no idea what blizzard is thinking when they make like 5 plate DPS items with Versatility and only one with mastery/multistrike

There are literally 3 pieces of cloth gear (including rings, neck, weps etc) with proper itemisation for locks. Dunno wtf there game plan is.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 08:21:40
December 05 2014 06:23 GMT
#6149
Yeah, stat distribution is fukking terrible on highmaul gear. It's like they did it on purpose so even though you have high ilvl, you still have shitty stats like versatility all over the place. Plus there is a single item and 1 weapon suited for subtlety, while everything else is for combat. Removal of reforging was a pretty retarded move :/

EDIT: Can horde follower Aeda Brightdawn roll abilities that counter something else than timed battle? I finally leveled her to epic and now she has metamorphosis and infernal, which both counter timed battle. I'd rather have something against massive blow or wild aggression on her.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
December 05 2014 08:36 GMT
#6150
Is normal raid tuned for 630 ilvl? If so, what is LFR?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 08:45:58
December 05 2014 08:44 GMT
#6151
Lol, got to 6th boss on Heroic last night. Damn twins on heroics is the biggest gear check by a fucking mile lol. I love the way blizzard already nerfed bosses after we killed them great! Haha. We killed Butcher before nerfs on Heroic and before enrage :D

http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/eu/draenor
(The Empire Strikes First is the guild)

Nooo we lost our number 2 ranking lol
Oh well aslong as we stay top 500 im happy! crit multi neck dropped off Twins too but i didn't get it saving my roll for last boss if i get there as damn it drops nice stuff for frost.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
December 05 2014 08:51 GMT
#6152
On December 05 2014 17:36 Arnstein wrote:
Is normal raid tuned for 630 ilvl? If so, what is LFR?

I don't believe there is any LFR atm.
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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
December 05 2014 08:56 GMT
#6153
On December 05 2014 14:05 bo1b wrote:
We definitely will be finishing the last boss first. I'm 99% sure that heroic is tuned to about 635, a guild on my server has already got 7/7 heroic cleared, apparently they're world 6th on that though so they may not be an accurate litmus test.

I'm pretty sure mythic is tuned for 645 on the first boss and then scaling rapidly upwards. Tectus will be one of the hardest bosses ever put in the game is my prediction.


Tectuc was the only boss on mythic in beta which got killed. If there isn't many changes it's not going to be hard as long as your players can move out of shit and do proper cd rotation for upheaval. Also cleared up to imperator yesterday on heroic but he's definitely caliber or two level higher in difficulty than anything else. Going to down him on Sunday for sure though.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 05 2014 09:00 GMT
#6154
On December 05 2014 17:36 Arnstein wrote:
Is normal raid tuned for 630 ilvl? If so, what is LFR?


I've heard numerous times (i think from good sources but i can't remember exactly to cite) that LFR was tuned for ~615
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 05 2014 10:05 GMT
#6155
Is there actually any class where versaility is the best stat? Seems impossible as the stat is so generic.
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ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
December 05 2014 10:25 GMT
#6156
It's decent for tanks, but every class/spec has at least 2 better ones. It's quite sad that they stuffed it on the legendary ring.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 05 2014 10:27 GMT
#6157
For tanking it is "good" not best. Defensively versatility is "good".
Prot warrior for example is; Bonus Armor > Masetry > Versatility
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
December 05 2014 10:41 GMT
#6158
I don't know shit about WoW, but I glance at this thread sometimes.

From reading the last few pages I get the impression that a new raid was released.... and completed within one day? Is that right?

Are there harder difficulty levels still to be completed then?
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
December 05 2014 10:46 GMT
#6159
On December 05 2014 19:41 Laurens wrote:
I don't know shit about WoW, but I glance at this thread sometimes.

From reading the last few pages I get the impression that a new raid was released.... and completed within one day? Is that right?

Are there harder difficulty levels still to be completed then?


Heroic(previous normal difficulty) opened this week and like always it's being cleared on the first week. Mythic(previous heroic) opens next week, that's when the real thing starts and we'll see how long it lasts. Another raid is going to open up later as well.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
December 05 2014 10:49 GMT
#6160
Ah ok that makes sense, thanks.
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