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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 11 2014 14:46 GMT
#4361
I want to know how the hell he managed to do the trash xD
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21937 Posts
November 11 2014 14:51 GMT
#4362
On November 11 2014 23:29 micronesia wrote:
Yea that was, but how did he not get mind controlled?

That's a blood dk, right?

Garrosh will not naturally MC his tank and since there is no other possible target he simply never does it.

Its one of those quirks that happen when you solo bosses.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
November 11 2014 15:07 GMT
#4363
So, I don't have MoP, but got the quest to pandaria anyway. But it seems the zoning isn't working properly?
Went around and and discovering most of the continent instead. cool place.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
November 11 2014 15:09 GMT
#4364
I think they gifted mop to people who have previous expansions. Also, you can buy classic --> mop for like 20 bux now.

Regarding zoning, you have to do quests to advance the story early on... so that might have been your problem.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21937 Posts
November 11 2014 15:13 GMT
#4365
Isnt MoP part of the base game now? So you will have gotten it for free if you didn't have it already.
They usually do that every time a new expansion comes up. Otherwise cost of entry would be insane by now :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 15:15:32
November 11 2014 15:15 GMT
#4366
It's also fair to gift previous expansions, because you miss so much by not playing during their prime. I missed so much great content by not playing during the first three versions of wow.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 18:51:57
November 11 2014 15:20 GMT
#4367
But my quests can't be delivered, the NPCs seem to have zoned someplace I can't go.
Not that it matters much, I won't be playing for a while when this free week is done.
They didn't give free exps until cata->MoP did they?
Edit: The quests were simply bugged, delevery was to on top of that first temple (horde yeah). strange that they hadn't been fixed yet lol.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
November 11 2014 15:21 GMT
#4368
Uh, all I can think of is to make sure you are starting with the correct first few quests.... I think it's easy to get misaligned in the jade forest.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
November 11 2014 15:59 GMT
#4369
On November 12 2014 00:20 Duvon wrote:
But my quests can't be delivered, the NPCs seem to have zoned someplace I can't go.
Not that it matters much, I won't be playing for a while when this free week is done.
They didn't give free exps until cata->MoP did they?


Are you horde? Is the quest "All Aboard!"?

If so, he's on a zeppelin in the sky. It's quite high.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 11 2014 20:29 GMT
#4370
...Really?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21937 Posts
November 11 2014 20:31 GMT
#4371
On November 12 2014 05:29 deth2munkies wrote:
...Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gceK-Q8p8Yk

dks have always been good at soloing and 6.0 threw balance out the window since its to costly to go fine tune everything again so yes stuff like that becomes possible.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 11 2014 20:32 GMT
#4372
On November 12 2014 05:31 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 05:29 deth2munkies wrote:
...Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gceK-Q8p8Yk

dks have always been good at soloing and 6.0 threw balance out the window since its to costly to go fine tune everything again so yes stuff like that becomes possible.


I know, but this is the first time an end of expansion patch has so broken the balance that the final raid boss is soloable.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
November 11 2014 20:32 GMT
#4373
This is also the first time flex level difficulty has existed haha
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21937 Posts
November 11 2014 20:34 GMT
#4374
On November 12 2014 05:32 micronesia wrote:
This is also the first time flex level difficulty has existed haha

more important then that is the number squish.

Its not just some ability retuning that messes with balance now. non of the numbers add up correctly anymore when it comes to raid balance. Esp tank damage got nerfed into the floor out of safety because of the tank changes which makes this possible,

Oh and ofc that is one of the best DK's in the world. that probably helps to.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 11 2014 21:45 GMT
#4375
I think the main issue is how much more power people got as their ilvl increased. When you have 4 different difficulties for the same raid, there are huge ilvl discrepancies within the same tier of content. And if your power keeps doubling every +25 ilvl you get, then things get pretty absurd when you're full mythic warforged and upgraded. In this case, DK self-healing crosses the threshold into viability and DPS is high enough to meet the enrage timer. Honestly the enrage timer seems absurdly high since most (all?) classes are doing 3k+ dps at ilvl 496. But maybe that's a result of the stat squish as already mentioned.

In WoD, power shouldn't increase so rapidly with ilvl. Blizz recognized that issue in MoP and is trying to prevent it from happening again in WoD. And of course upgrading has been removed. So we'll see how that goes.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 11 2014 21:53 GMT
#4376
In WoD, power shouldn't increase so rapidly with ilvl.


That's not necessarily the case. In fact, every expansion has increased every character's scaling with gear. We currently have much, much less spellpower than we did during Wotlk (and sort of similar levels of haste and crit), but stuff like removing hit, mastery, and adding new stats makes characters considerably more powerful than in that era. If anything, it's likely that characters will scale even more ridicolously than before.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
November 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#4377
In that solo of Garrosh, the berserk timer elapsed well before garrosh was killed... what changed when that timer elapsed?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 11 2014 22:06 GMT
#4378
On November 12 2014 06:56 micronesia wrote:
In that solo of Garrosh, the berserk timer elapsed well before garrosh was killed... what changed when that timer elapsed?


I've never actually hit the enrage on Garrosh so I'm not sure if anything is different for him, but normally Bosses that enrage get 500% damage and 100% attack speed.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 22:07:03
November 11 2014 22:06 GMT
#4379
On November 12 2014 06:53 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
In WoD, power shouldn't increase so rapidly with ilvl.


That's not necessarily the case. In fact, every expansion has increased every character's scaling with gear. We currently have much, much less spellpower than we did during Wotlk (and sort of similar levels of haste and crit), but stuff like removing hit, mastery, and adding new stats makes characters considerably more powerful than in that era. If anything, it's likely that characters will scale even more ridicolously than before.

Maybe this graph is just misleading then. It shows power only doubling from fresh 100 to the highest it gets. It shows the same for level 90 though which is obviously BS. I guess it is probably meaningless.
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/UWOGFNFX8ACJ1393539234638.jpg
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 11 2014 22:12 GMT
#4380
Yeah that is definitely not how it's working. Level 100 characters already do like 20-40k dps, which is actually pretty close to late cata/early mop numbers
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
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