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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
November 01 2014 11:00 GMT
#4221
On November 01 2014 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Firebolt145#2418

And yes. 320 ping not fun. I think I get ~150-160 on Tich which is fine.

Your ping will be amazing when if you move to Sydney though
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 01 2014 11:36 GMT
#4222
On November 01 2014 20:00 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Firebolt145#2418

And yes. 320 ping not fun. I think I get ~150-160 on Tich which is fine.

Your ping will be amazing when if you move to Sydney though


my ping went up by 50 after the change, I'm sad
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 01 2014 11:50 GMT
#4223
On November 01 2014 20:00 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Firebolt145#2418

And yes. 320 ping not fun. I think I get ~150-160 on Tich which is fine.

Your ping will be amazing when if you move to Sydney though

Not happening for at least 3-4 years.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
November 01 2014 16:41 GMT
#4224
I'm learning how to tank a bit on my blood dk just for fun. I just ran Stormstout Brewery because I don't think I'm ready for any type of raid tanking. At the beginning you need to pull a lot of mobs and keep them focused on you while the dps kills them (of course, they aren't that high-hp so you can kill them as well). As a blood dk, what abilities can I use to keep aggro on a large group? I can only do a couple of blood boils at a time, and they don't do that much damage to each mob.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 17:13:16
November 01 2014 17:12 GMT
#4225
On November 02 2014 01:41 micronesia wrote:
I'm learning how to tank a bit on my blood dk just for fun. I just ran Stormstout Brewery because I don't think I'm ready for any type of raid tanking. At the beginning you need to pull a lot of mobs and keep them focused on you while the dps kills them (of course, they aren't that high-hp so you can kill them as well). As a blood dk, what abilities can I use to keep aggro on a large group? I can only do a couple of blood boils at a time, and they don't do that much damage to each mob.


Use Death Strike to get Death Runes then spam Blood Boil. Ruinic Corruption or Leech should let you keep aggro unless dps vastly overgears you, in which case you're not keeping aggro anyway. Make sure you have diseases on everyone obv.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
November 01 2014 17:20 GMT
#4226
How do you apply diseases on everyone? Against one enemy it's pretty easy... but is there away to apply to multiple enemies at a time like there used to be?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 17:23:50
November 01 2014 17:23 GMT
#4227
Blood Boil spreads diseases. The old Pestilence is built into it. So spam that for aoe tanking; damage and disease spread
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 01 2014 17:26 GMT
#4228
I'm exploding a lot in BG's.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
November 01 2014 17:29 GMT
#4229
Oh cool now this is making a lot more sense. So Death strike helps with runes (in addition to its multiple other benefits). As soon as I can, use outbreak. Then blood boil will spread the diseases, and use blood boil as much as I can.

When do I use death and decay instead? Whenever it's available assuming enemies aren't moving much?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22434 Posts
November 01 2014 17:31 GMT
#4230
On November 02 2014 02:29 micronesia wrote:
Oh cool now this is making a lot more sense. So Death strike helps with runes (in addition to its multiple other benefits). As soon as I can, use outbreak. Then blood boil will spread the diseases, and use blood boil as much as I can.

When do I use death and decay instead? Whenever it's available assuming enemies aren't moving much?

Its been a while since I played my DK but generally put down a D&D on the spot where you are tanking mobs when you pull them. However it depends on the speed at which things die. If your only going to spend a couple of seconds on each group then its probably not worth it. Just applying diseases and bloodboil should cover that.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22434 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 17:33:46
November 01 2014 17:33 GMT
#4231
On November 02 2014 02:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm exploding a lot in BG's.

your fighting people with gear while not having gear yourself. its natural, this late into the game I wouldnt bother much with pvp tho. I heard the gains are terrible and your better off gearing up on the timeless isle and then just waiting for WoD 2 weeks from now. Even in just 496 stuff you will be blazing through the first zone.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 01 2014 18:11 GMT
#4232
On November 02 2014 02:29 micronesia wrote:
Oh cool now this is making a lot more sense. So Death strike helps with runes (in addition to its multiple other benefits). As soon as I can, use outbreak. Then blood boil will spread the diseases, and use blood boil as much as I can.

When do I use death and decay instead? Whenever it's available assuming enemies aren't moving much?


Put down DnD whenever it's free from that one proc (if it still exists, haven't played Blood since the pruning). Death Strike turns 1 frost and 1 unholy rune into a Death Rune, meaning it can be used as ANY rune, but for your purposes, that means you can use it to have 2 more Blood Boils if you're not taking enough damage that you need the healing/shield from Death Strike again.

Death Strike also procs Ruinic Corruption (if that's what you're using instead of Plague Leech, which is better for raid bosses but not anything else IMO). Which gives you a short duration double rune regen. Don't use Ruinic Empowerment. It was awesome when it was a Frost talent, but they nerfed it hard in MoP.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 01 2014 18:16 GMT
#4233
On November 02 2014 02:33 Gorsameth wrote:
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On November 02 2014 02:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm exploding a lot in BG's.

your fighting people with gear while not having gear yourself. its natural, this late into the game I wouldnt bother much with pvp tho. I heard the gains are terrible and your better off gearing up on the timeless isle and then just waiting for WoD 2 weeks from now. Even in just 496 stuff you will be blazing through the first zone.

I'm pretty aware of why it's happening. I'm just playing the occasional BG to get used to how my character plays since I haven't touched the game since Cataclysm.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
November 01 2014 18:24 GMT
#4234
Oh, then another tanking question. How important is it to know exactly how raid battles in previous tiers work? For example, I read the icy veins article on the three giant quilen battle at the beginning of tier 14... and it seems extremely complicated. Both tanks have to coordinate to position the various quilen in different places. It would take me a while of studying to really understand it all before I was able to execute the strategy as a tank, and this is just one of the many previous tier raid bosses. Compare that with dps where you can just read for like 20-30 seconds and you have the gist of most raid bosses.

When does it become necessary to actually know the details of an encounter to tank in LFR?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 01 2014 18:42 GMT
#4235
Well in lfr version that particular fight is not complicated at all, in general as a tank, you just go in and whisper the other tank "I've never been here as tank what do I do?" and it can get you through like all lfr.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 01 2014 18:46 GMT
#4236
On November 02 2014 03:42 Atreides wrote:
Well in lfr version that particular fight is not complicated at all, in general as a tank, you just go in and whisper the other tank "I've never been here as tank what do I do?" and it can get you through like all lfr.


LFR is just tank all together, yeah, but I don't remember the normal version of it being overly complicated

off the top of my head, it's just one tank takes one quilen and the other tank takes two, and taunt the dog that's reaching full energy?

Some people learn better from executing instead of reading, and wiping is an unavoidable part of progression.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#4237
You're never required to know what to do in LFR. Most of the time its plagued with AFK/Bots.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 01 2014 22:37 GMT
#4238
On November 02 2014 03:24 micronesia wrote:
Oh, then another tanking question. How important is it to know exactly how raid battles in previous tiers work? For example, I read the icy veins article on the three giant quilen battle at the beginning of tier 14... and it seems extremely complicated. Both tanks have to coordinate to position the various quilen in different places. It would take me a while of studying to really understand it all before I was able to execute the strategy as a tank, and this is just one of the many previous tier raid bosses. Compare that with dps where you can just read for like 20-30 seconds and you have the gist of most raid bosses.

When does it become necessary to actually know the details of an encounter to tank in LFR?

get that glyph that turns outbreak into a runic power spell instead of a cooldown
put diseases on target and spam blood boil
deathstrike for unholy/frost runes and blood boil for blood runes
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 06:27:16
November 02 2014 06:26 GMT
#4239
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Take a minute to look for it...

Who cares about fixate phase if you never hit it?
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 02 2014 06:54 GMT
#4240
On November 02 2014 15:26 Stancel wrote:
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[image loading]


Take a minute to look for it...

Who cares about fixate phase if you never hit it?


Must be on Flex, it auto-wipes you on 30 in higher difficulties.
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