• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:36
CET 03:36
KST 11:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1815Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1083 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 212

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 210 211 212 213 214 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
November 01 2014 11:00 GMT
#4221
On November 01 2014 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Firebolt145#2418

And yes. 320 ping not fun. I think I get ~150-160 on Tich which is fine.

Your ping will be amazing when if you move to Sydney though
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 01 2014 11:36 GMT
#4222
On November 01 2014 20:00 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Firebolt145#2418

And yes. 320 ping not fun. I think I get ~150-160 on Tich which is fine.

Your ping will be amazing when if you move to Sydney though


my ping went up by 50 after the change, I'm sad
ffxiv enjoyer
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
November 01 2014 11:50 GMT
#4223
On November 01 2014 20:00 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 18:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Firebolt145#2418

And yes. 320 ping not fun. I think I get ~150-160 on Tich which is fine.

Your ping will be amazing when if you move to Sydney though

Not happening for at least 3-4 years.
Moderator
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
November 01 2014 16:41 GMT
#4224
I'm learning how to tank a bit on my blood dk just for fun. I just ran Stormstout Brewery because I don't think I'm ready for any type of raid tanking. At the beginning you need to pull a lot of mobs and keep them focused on you while the dps kills them (of course, they aren't that high-hp so you can kill them as well). As a blood dk, what abilities can I use to keep aggro on a large group? I can only do a couple of blood boils at a time, and they don't do that much damage to each mob.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 17:13:16
November 01 2014 17:12 GMT
#4225
On November 02 2014 01:41 micronesia wrote:
I'm learning how to tank a bit on my blood dk just for fun. I just ran Stormstout Brewery because I don't think I'm ready for any type of raid tanking. At the beginning you need to pull a lot of mobs and keep them focused on you while the dps kills them (of course, they aren't that high-hp so you can kill them as well). As a blood dk, what abilities can I use to keep aggro on a large group? I can only do a couple of blood boils at a time, and they don't do that much damage to each mob.


Use Death Strike to get Death Runes then spam Blood Boil. Ruinic Corruption or Leech should let you keep aggro unless dps vastly overgears you, in which case you're not keeping aggro anyway. Make sure you have diseases on everyone obv.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
November 01 2014 17:20 GMT
#4226
How do you apply diseases on everyone? Against one enemy it's pretty easy... but is there away to apply to multiple enemies at a time like there used to be?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 17:23:50
November 01 2014 17:23 GMT
#4227
Blood Boil spreads diseases. The old Pestilence is built into it. So spam that for aoe tanking; damage and disease spread
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
November 01 2014 17:26 GMT
#4228
I'm exploding a lot in BG's.
Moderator
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
November 01 2014 17:29 GMT
#4229
Oh cool now this is making a lot more sense. So Death strike helps with runes (in addition to its multiple other benefits). As soon as I can, use outbreak. Then blood boil will spread the diseases, and use blood boil as much as I can.

When do I use death and decay instead? Whenever it's available assuming enemies aren't moving much?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
November 01 2014 17:31 GMT
#4230
On November 02 2014 02:29 micronesia wrote:
Oh cool now this is making a lot more sense. So Death strike helps with runes (in addition to its multiple other benefits). As soon as I can, use outbreak. Then blood boil will spread the diseases, and use blood boil as much as I can.

When do I use death and decay instead? Whenever it's available assuming enemies aren't moving much?

Its been a while since I played my DK but generally put down a D&D on the spot where you are tanking mobs when you pull them. However it depends on the speed at which things die. If your only going to spend a couple of seconds on each group then its probably not worth it. Just applying diseases and bloodboil should cover that.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 17:33:46
November 01 2014 17:33 GMT
#4231
On November 02 2014 02:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm exploding a lot in BG's.

your fighting people with gear while not having gear yourself. its natural, this late into the game I wouldnt bother much with pvp tho. I heard the gains are terrible and your better off gearing up on the timeless isle and then just waiting for WoD 2 weeks from now. Even in just 496 stuff you will be blazing through the first zone.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 01 2014 18:11 GMT
#4232
On November 02 2014 02:29 micronesia wrote:
Oh cool now this is making a lot more sense. So Death strike helps with runes (in addition to its multiple other benefits). As soon as I can, use outbreak. Then blood boil will spread the diseases, and use blood boil as much as I can.

When do I use death and decay instead? Whenever it's available assuming enemies aren't moving much?


Put down DnD whenever it's free from that one proc (if it still exists, haven't played Blood since the pruning). Death Strike turns 1 frost and 1 unholy rune into a Death Rune, meaning it can be used as ANY rune, but for your purposes, that means you can use it to have 2 more Blood Boils if you're not taking enough damage that you need the healing/shield from Death Strike again.

Death Strike also procs Ruinic Corruption (if that's what you're using instead of Plague Leech, which is better for raid bosses but not anything else IMO). Which gives you a short duration double rune regen. Don't use Ruinic Empowerment. It was awesome when it was a Frost talent, but they nerfed it hard in MoP.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
November 01 2014 18:16 GMT
#4233
On November 02 2014 02:33 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 02:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm exploding a lot in BG's.

your fighting people with gear while not having gear yourself. its natural, this late into the game I wouldnt bother much with pvp tho. I heard the gains are terrible and your better off gearing up on the timeless isle and then just waiting for WoD 2 weeks from now. Even in just 496 stuff you will be blazing through the first zone.

I'm pretty aware of why it's happening. I'm just playing the occasional BG to get used to how my character plays since I haven't touched the game since Cataclysm.
Moderator
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
November 01 2014 18:24 GMT
#4234
Oh, then another tanking question. How important is it to know exactly how raid battles in previous tiers work? For example, I read the icy veins article on the three giant quilen battle at the beginning of tier 14... and it seems extremely complicated. Both tanks have to coordinate to position the various quilen in different places. It would take me a while of studying to really understand it all before I was able to execute the strategy as a tank, and this is just one of the many previous tier raid bosses. Compare that with dps where you can just read for like 20-30 seconds and you have the gist of most raid bosses.

When does it become necessary to actually know the details of an encounter to tank in LFR?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 01 2014 18:42 GMT
#4235
Well in lfr version that particular fight is not complicated at all, in general as a tank, you just go in and whisper the other tank "I've never been here as tank what do I do?" and it can get you through like all lfr.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 01 2014 18:46 GMT
#4236
On November 02 2014 03:42 Atreides wrote:
Well in lfr version that particular fight is not complicated at all, in general as a tank, you just go in and whisper the other tank "I've never been here as tank what do I do?" and it can get you through like all lfr.


LFR is just tank all together, yeah, but I don't remember the normal version of it being overly complicated

off the top of my head, it's just one tank takes one quilen and the other tank takes two, and taunt the dog that's reaching full energy?

Some people learn better from executing instead of reading, and wiping is an unavoidable part of progression.
ffxiv enjoyer
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#4237
You're never required to know what to do in LFR. Most of the time its plagued with AFK/Bots.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 01 2014 22:37 GMT
#4238
On November 02 2014 03:24 micronesia wrote:
Oh, then another tanking question. How important is it to know exactly how raid battles in previous tiers work? For example, I read the icy veins article on the three giant quilen battle at the beginning of tier 14... and it seems extremely complicated. Both tanks have to coordinate to position the various quilen in different places. It would take me a while of studying to really understand it all before I was able to execute the strategy as a tank, and this is just one of the many previous tier raid bosses. Compare that with dps where you can just read for like 20-30 seconds and you have the gist of most raid bosses.

When does it become necessary to actually know the details of an encounter to tank in LFR?

get that glyph that turns outbreak into a runic power spell instead of a cooldown
put diseases on target and spam blood boil
deathstrike for unholy/frost runes and blood boil for blood runes
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 06:27:16
November 02 2014 06:26 GMT
#4239
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Take a minute to look for it...

Who cares about fixate phase if you never hit it?
ffxiv enjoyer
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 02 2014 06:54 GMT
#4240
On November 02 2014 15:26 Stancel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Take a minute to look for it...

Who cares about fixate phase if you never hit it?


Must be on Flex, it auto-wipes you on 30 in higher difficulties.
Prev 1 210 211 212 213 214 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 10h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft454
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyun 75
NaDa 30
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm130
League of Legends
C9.Mang0250
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv5206
Other Games
summit1g5544
Sick205
Mew2King50
febbydoto36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1046
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 59
• davetesta42
• Berry_CruncH41
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki55
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4501
• Stunt364
Other Games
• imaqtpie2632
• Scarra1854
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 10h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.