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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
I raise you; Yep, absolutely. We do listen to that feedback. I'd just like to caution against taking the SimC spec DPS rankings as gospel. (Watcher - Blizzard Dev) | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Blizzard was referring to class comparison, not gear, talent or spec comparison. edit: in fact, the current state of hunters is quite possibly due to an error in Blizzard's own test and simulations. Celestalon more or less admitted recently It wouldn't even the first time, TBC jaw dropping mage dps says hi | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
I raided in TOT at the start i was fire and i was middle of the dps by the end of TOT i was sitting at the top on bosses like Horridon and Elders due to the ability to cleave and have good gear and crit. It is the same for next expansion. At level 100 you will have like 20% crit going into the first raid, that is not enough, by the end of the first tier you will have probably 30% crit, but again remember how random the gear drops and stats are for bis and gems etcetc. Fire might be the best spec on sims, but that is not until the end of the tier with the gear just like the rankings of fire vs arcane in patch 5.4 For your edit you realize the problem is on live at level 90. Not at level 100. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
With that said this conversation is over since it appears you dont even know how your average simulation code works | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
On October 17 2014 18:37 Teoita wrote: It's like talking to a wall...those sims do assume at least -decent- levels of crit, what that means isn't "yo gear up however the fuck you want and go fayah cuz deeps", what they do show is that fire can achieve competitive levels of crit even without bis gear. Case in point: fire doing competitive dps in early cata and wotlk. In fact, if fire dps was exclusively about getting a huge combustion and then cleaving it off, it would have gone down the fucking drain with this patch because we lost the ability to fire off several pyros with alter time. With that said this conversation is over since it appears you dont even know how your average simulation code works Like i said, i will stake whatever you want on fire not being the top spec come raid time until a good couple of months afterwards. You're telling me its the best spec at level 100, im telling you it won't be. There is nothing else to say lol. I showed you sims saying Arcane would be the best in SoO and it was...at the end of SoO lol. | ||
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Vicetonexx
Norway6 Posts
At the end of the day.. they're still sims. I've played this game long enough to know that sims are always wrong. If you ask any top guilds or players they will tell you the exact same thing. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dHJbAHB.png) If you look at this then affliction locks should still be the go to warlock spec. This is not the case. Combat rogues doing worse than windwalkers and the other rogue specs is also incorrect. Elemental being above all the warlocks specc is also not the case. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Vicetonexx
Norway6 Posts
You can't say that x spec> y spec before it's live. As I said you can look at it as a guideline, but does by no means say that it's correct. I've also seen many sims being simmed on patchwerk style bosses which is pointless as Blizzard has said that they won't be making patchwerk style bosses because they're dull. Helter Skelter bosses is what should be looked at, and I looked through some of those sims too. They showed that the simcraft program isnt using the best rotation possible, for instance, a combat rogue with adds would not single target and use crimson tempest, which is what was being used in the sim. Where as whirlwind was spammed as a fury warrior, so obviously they gonna come out on top on a sim like that. | ||
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Serejai
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On October 17 2014 18:37 Teoita wrote: It's like talking to a wall... This is why I stopped reading anything Pandemona says in any thread a long time ago. Still trying to figure out how on earth he got a star next to his name considering how awful of a poster he is in this thread. As someone who used to work on Rawr, I just want you to know that you're not the only person here who understands how simulations work. May this knowledge comfort you and warm your heart, and shield you from the cold ignorance in this thread! STAY STRONG, BROTHER. | ||
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farvacola
United States18822 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
On October 17 2014 21:17 Serejai wrote: This is why I stopped reading anything Pandemona says in any thread a long time ago. Still trying to figure out how on earth he got a star next to his name considering how awful of a poster he is in this thread. As someone who used to work on Rawr, I just want you to know that you're not the only person here who understands how simulations work. May this knowledge comfort you and warm your heart, and shield you from the cold ignorance in this thread! STAY STRONG, BROTHER. Please go write what you said or what teoita just said on any top guilds forum (aka top 10, Method and Mindwinter etc) and see how far you get shot down and put into your place. Don't troll for the sake of trolling because you think you can. Out of everyone in this thread a lot of people do not read a single word you type due to sheer lack of being able to back up what you type. Also what was your moonkin called again where you got these top logs i want to cross reference your name with somethings... But again i don't give a shit what people think about my posts as long as they are reading and getting the ideas. I don't want people reading this thread thinking i might go back to WoW to see everyone being given the wrong information on what is op and what is not on something that is not even remotely close to being finalized because a few people are but hurt their class has changed or are just straight up bad mouthing the game. Edit: If you don't want to go onto their forums go into Slootbags stream or Fraggis stream and ask them, they will just laugh at you. Someone did it the other night on Slootbags stream on release of 6.0 and he facepalmed. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34486 Posts
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FFW_Rude
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On October 17 2014 21:47 Firebolt145 wrote: Serejai content aside you're a pretty awful poster in here so... They're both awful and clearly never actually do the real content but instead base everything on what other people have said/told them.. As for DPS rankings, it's all pretty irrelevant since Mythic SoO is a joke no matter your raid composition (especially with the numerous nerfs to the fights we've seen over the past few days) and no one really cares about rankings during this phase of content. What is important right now is to learn/relearn stuff and figure out how to play your class, as a shadow priest right now I've attempted a number of different things and some talent/glyph setups work much better than others. I suspect the same is true of the other classes and numbers will fluctuate greatly over the course of the next couple weeks even without Blizzard doing any heavy-handed balancing (which they seem to like doing). | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
On October 17 2014 21:54 las91 wrote: They're both awful and clearly never actually do the real content but instead base everything on what other people have said/told them.. As for DPS rankings, it's all pretty irrelevant since Mythic SoO is a joke no matter your raid composition (especially with the numerous nerfs to the fights we've seen over the past few days) and no one really cares about rankings during this phase of content. What is important right now is to learn/relearn stuff and figure out how to play your class, as a shadow priest right now I've attempted a number of different things and some talent/glyph setups work much better than others. I suspect the same is true of the other classes and numbers will fluctuate greatly over the course of the next couple weeks even without Blizzard doing any heavy-handed balancing (which they seem to like doing). http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormscale/Zeike/advanced http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/stormscale/AwoL/rating.tier16_25 Don't get why you would think i don't play the game...hmm. But oh well im glad you posted something else useful after that  On October 17 2014 21:54 FFW_Rude wrote: Damn the auction house is going soooooooo great since a few days i sold like 500 items. Bought 4 mounts Nice work Rude! Someone is loving the cross realm auction houses :D | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
Chill! And then tell me if my hunter is really going to be doomed to failure^^ | ||
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