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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:57 GMT
#3741
On October 17 2014 01:55 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:52 arb wrote:
On October 17 2014 00:54 Requizen wrote:
How is Hunter soloing now? I want to go back and hit some old raids but I'm not sure if I want to do it on my Hunter or Pally.

http://i.imgur.com/YxMQT0b.jpg

pretty good i guess

I WANT


ELI5

That's Chimaeron, a boss in Blackwing Descent. They just added the ability to tame Hydras, and you can tame bosses of older content.
It's your boy Guzma!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:01 GMT
#3742
On October 17 2014 01:57 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 01:55 Stancel wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:52 arb wrote:
On October 17 2014 00:54 Requizen wrote:
How is Hunter soloing now? I want to go back and hit some old raids but I'm not sure if I want to do it on my Hunter or Pally.

http://i.imgur.com/YxMQT0b.jpg

pretty good i guess

I WANT


ELI5

That's Chimaeron, a boss in Blackwing Descent. They just added the ability to tame Hydras, and you can tame bosses of older content.

what is ELI5 ?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 17:04 GMT
#3743
On October 17 2014 02:01 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 01:57 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:55 Stancel wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:52 arb wrote:
On October 17 2014 00:54 Requizen wrote:
How is Hunter soloing now? I want to go back and hit some old raids but I'm not sure if I want to do it on my Hunter or Pally.

http://i.imgur.com/YxMQT0b.jpg

pretty good i guess

I WANT


ELI5

That's Chimaeron, a boss in Blackwing Descent. They just added the ability to tame Hydras, and you can tame bosses of older content.

what is ELI5 ?

Explain Like I'm 5 (years old)
It's your boy Guzma!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 16 2014 19:05 GMT
#3744
is it exotic i wish i could use cool stuff as marks
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
October 16 2014 19:06 GMT
#3745
On October 17 2014 02:04 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 02:01 arb wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:57 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:55 Stancel wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:53 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2014 01:52 arb wrote:
On October 17 2014 00:54 Requizen wrote:
How is Hunter soloing now? I want to go back and hit some old raids but I'm not sure if I want to do it on my Hunter or Pally.

http://i.imgur.com/YxMQT0b.jpg

pretty good i guess

I WANT


ELI5

That's Chimaeron, a boss in Blackwing Descent. They just added the ability to tame Hydras, and you can tame bosses of older content.

what is ELI5 ?

Explain Like I'm 5 (years old)


well you have to leave now because you're not old enough to be here

http://xkcd.com/1364/
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 19:51 GMT
#3746
On October 17 2014 04:05 FinestHour wrote:
is it exotic i wish i could use cool stuff as marks

Nope, Hydras and Stags are new regular families.

Also under Stags? TALBUKS. The first thing I did when I patched was tame Bach'lor. One of my favorite creatures, matches my favorite mount.

Riverbeasts (Hippos) are coming in Warlords and are regular. Rylaks (two-headed flying type thing like the new store mount) will be exotic.
It's your boy Guzma!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 19:56:23
October 16 2014 19:52 GMT
#3747
found
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
October 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#3748
Is there a class/spec that is best for 1v1 arena these days? What about once the expansion comes out?
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#3749
There's no such thing as 1v1 arena, so no.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
October 16 2014 21:46 GMT
#3750
Wow, brain fart. I guess it's been too long since I played.

That being said, seems dumb not to have 1v1.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 21:49:23
October 16 2014 21:49 GMT
#3751
On October 17 2014 06:46 Yacobs wrote:
Wow, brain fart. I guess it's been too long since I played.

That being said, seems dumb not to have 1v1.


1v1 is and always has been so absurdly imbalanced that there would be no value in having it.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
October 16 2014 21:50 GMT
#3752
On October 17 2014 06:46 Yacobs wrote:
Wow, brain fart. I guess it's been too long since I played.

That being said, seems dumb not to have 1v1.

Just go outside ogrimmar or stormwind and have duels.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 17 2014 07:35 GMT
#3753
On October 17 2014 06:49 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 06:46 Yacobs wrote:
Wow, brain fart. I guess it's been too long since I played.

That being said, seems dumb not to have 1v1.


1v1 is and always has been so absurdly imbalanced that there would be no value in having it.


Just the same as 2v2 imo xD
Anyone who complains about imbalance in 2v2 is just as bad. I do like 2v2 though for fast caps and what not but it is silly to try balance Arena on that too.

3v3 or nothing in terms of balance for me, which is i guess how they look at it right? (not sure im not a top level arena player lol)
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 17 2014 07:46 GMT
#3754
Just to keep everyone updated, we're progressing on the first big round of balance tuning changes. Coming in the new couple days will be adjustments to Assassination, Subtlety, Fury, Protection Warrior, All Death Knights, All Monks, All Mages, All Hunters, Shadow, Protection Paladins, Retribution, Guardian, Feral, Affliction, Demonology. Lots of number changes. To set expectations, our general strategy will be to nerf the couple OP specs (Fire, Fury, Demon), and buff the others to be competitive. Slight correction to that: A few others are coming down a tiny bit too, but those changes were already announced in my beta forum post.


TO THE GROUND BABY rip my new op dps. It was fun while it lasted.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 17 2014 07:50 GMT
#3755
It's very silly how they think it's balanced at level 100 but so broken at level 90. To me this means that by the time we are level 100 everything is going to be undertuned lol.

Oh well we shall see i guess.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
October 17 2014 08:00 GMT
#3756
Poor demo, didn't even make it to WoD launch
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
October 17 2014 08:04 GMT
#3757
Buff resto shams pls
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 08:07:57
October 17 2014 08:05 GMT
#3758
On October 17 2014 16:50 Pandemona wrote:
It's very silly how they think it's balanced at level 100 but so broken at level 90. To me this means that by the time we are level 100 everything is going to be undertuned lol.

Oh well we shall see i guess.


Fire is still doing extremely well at lvl 100 though. It's better at 90 because the average fire mage (ie: not me lol) has absolutely absurd levels of crit, which isn't the case at 100.

Besides, all they have done lately to tweak it is change the spellpower coefficients on Pyro, FB and IB, which is really really easily changed.

Im surprised they aren't touching disc or holy palas tho. Absorbs still seem to be op as fuck.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 08:42:15
October 17 2014 08:40 GMT
#3759
On October 17 2014 17:05 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 16:50 Pandemona wrote:
It's very silly how they think it's balanced at level 100 but so broken at level 90. To me this means that by the time we are level 100 everything is going to be undertuned lol.

Oh well we shall see i guess.


Fire is still doing extremely well at lvl 100 though. It's better at 90 because the average fire mage (ie: not me lol) has absolutely absurd levels of crit, which isn't the case at 100.

Besides, all they have done lately to tweak it is change the spellpower coefficients on Pyro, FB and IB, which is really really easily changed.

Im surprised they aren't touching disc or holy palas tho. Absorbs still seem to be op as fuck.


Fire is not going to be instantly good at level 100, it won't be good until you have your full tier gear and full BF or Highmaul gear. Thats the issue with the sim data that people are following. The rankings always change, fire is HEAVY gear dependant, has been since MoP and will be in WoD as they didn't change anything. It is crit crit and more crit to get to a level where you can get decent ignites to make your combusts viable in terms of damage.

Anyway back to the point, the dps people are simulating are in like full set bonuses and epic gear from Highmaul/BF thats only when fire will beat frost and maybe on par if not behind arcane until then too. Fury warrior is exactly the same it starts of the expansion not so good but by the end of gear the stats make it good and strong. Reason why Fury and Fire are raping the damage now is probably due to a few issues but also because the gear that has been achieved by those specs 1 year after the raid is released is the reason why they are sat on stupidly good stats. Im sat at 57% unbuffed in raids in crit which is pretty good but others will be higher. Fury warrior will be the same. It is high gear dependant and end of the expansion is always pushing up to the top on dps.

I would stake alot on fire mage not being the best mage spec until at least January/February after people are farming the Mythic bosses. Also would say that fury warrior won't be that high on metres until it gets good gear too. Same reason Hunters even if they didn't get touched would be fine at 100 due to when stat weights change again.
Thats why im very confused at all the changes as everything changes at 100 with different talents and those perk things.

Oh well, im sure Blizzard will make the right calls...


Also on the healing issue, remember when everyone on MMO champion and other forum boards where saying OMG resto druids are sick omg look at their sim numbers. Everything is shit healing spec and everyone will be rolling druids...lol
Thats Paragon and Method raid where Holy palas doing 30%+ of the healing, discos still being around there and resto druids doing about 18% on par with Disco.
However resto druids are struggling a bit but still are being used fine on fights like Thok where everyone stands in healing rain
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
October 17 2014 08:48 GMT
#3760
So last year I said this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/277847-wow-mists-of-pandaria?page=104#2063

Just bought 3 months of sub + the expansion

Fuck.

Trying to rebuild my interface now.
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