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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2014 16:34 GMT
#3801
I dunno, do we got any TLers on today? I could set up another run.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 16:37:51
October 18 2014 16:37 GMT
#3802
edit: is it a horde run?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
October 18 2014 16:58 GMT
#3803
Get to lvl 90, have blues ofc, then i try to play BGs to farm some honour, get obviously rekt. I go check the gear and the cost, to see if there is some pvp entry gear or something.

Oh blizzard, ten years, and you are still dumb as fuck.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22410 Posts
October 18 2014 17:03 GMT
#3804
On October 19 2014 01:58 Godwrath wrote:
Get to lvl 90, have blues ofc, then i try to play BGs to farm some honour, get obviously rekt. I go check the gear and the cost, to see if there is some pvp entry gear or something.

Oh blizzard, ten years, and you are still dumb as fuck.

There is crafted pvp armor.

They are probably shit tho :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 17:06:56
October 18 2014 17:06 GMT
#3805
PVP items can drop from celestials... but that takes a while to farm...

You can also farm honor points from the thunder isle dailies.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2014 17:10 GMT
#3806
I've got horde and alliance, so if someone wants to run around 7 CST or so I could set something up, but only if we have at least 5-6.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 18 2014 17:39 GMT
#3807
On October 19 2014 01:58 Godwrath wrote:
Get to lvl 90, have blues ofc, then i try to play BGs to farm some honour, get obviously rekt. I go check the gear and the cost, to see if there is some pvp entry gear or something.

Oh blizzard, ten years, and you are still dumb as fuck.

Huh? It's the same as usual really, crafted PvP gear to start with. Also the end of the expansion, so gonna be rough to gear up with the little time remaining.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 17:44:05
October 18 2014 17:40 GMT
#3808
On October 19 2014 02:39 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 01:58 Godwrath wrote:
Get to lvl 90, have blues ofc, then i try to play BGs to farm some honour, get obviously rekt. I go check the gear and the cost, to see if there is some pvp entry gear or something.

Oh blizzard, ten years, and you are still dumb as fuck.

Huh? It's the same as usual really, crafted PvP gear to start with. Also the end of the expansion, so gonna be rough to gear up with the little time remaining.

That's kinda my point. You would think they could do this seasonal, where you can access the past PvP season gear much more easilly, like i others MMORPGs do. Instead, i have to get gangbanged because it is the same as usual. Thx for the tips guys.

Anyways, Yay finally got the 2 handed weapon :DD
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 17:44:22
October 18 2014 17:44 GMT
#3809
deth2munkies if you do alliance I'm in... 7pm cst tonight?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2014 17:51 GMT
#3810
On October 19 2014 02:44 micronesia wrote:
deth2munkies if you do alliance I'm in... 7pm cst tonight?


Yeah, but it looks like you're the only one so far. 5 people in 6 hours and we'll go.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
October 18 2014 18:08 GMT
#3811
Farvacola seems interested too
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 18:12:19
October 18 2014 18:11 GMT
#3812
One really good thing is the new xp-values. Leveled my warrior toon from 87 to 90 yesterday in roughly 90 minutes, actually missed the 88 ding because i didn't expect it. Fully rested, but it still seemed like blistering fast.

If that goes for lower levels as well, i shall finally finish my mage.
On track to MA1950A.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 18 2014 18:38 GMT
#3813
On October 19 2014 03:11 m4ini wrote:
One really good thing is the new xp-values. Leveled my warrior toon from 87 to 90 yesterday in roughly 90 minutes, actually missed the 88 ding because i didn't expect it. Fully rested, but it still seemed like blistering fast.

If that goes for lower levels as well, i shall finally finish my mage.

took me around 12-14 hours for 1-60
pretty skeptical of 87-90 in an hour and a half tbh.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 18:45:03
October 18 2014 18:42 GMT
#3814
On October 19 2014 02:40 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 02:39 Duka08 wrote:
On October 19 2014 01:58 Godwrath wrote:
Get to lvl 90, have blues ofc, then i try to play BGs to farm some honour, get obviously rekt. I go check the gear and the cost, to see if there is some pvp entry gear or something.

Oh blizzard, ten years, and you are still dumb as fuck.

Huh? It's the same as usual really, crafted PvP gear to start with. Also the end of the expansion, so gonna be rough to gear up with the little time remaining.

That's kinda my point. You would think they could do this seasonal, where you can access the past PvP season gear much more easilly, like i others MMORPGs do. Instead, i have to get gangbanged because it is the same as usual. Thx for the tips guys.

Anyways, Yay finally got the 2 handed weapon :DD


Well they have made significant improvements in a lot of ways to "catch-up" pvp gearing. But ya basically its still sucky to go from nothing to "outdated" gear, just a lot better to go from outdated gear to current gear. It so happens that because of the end of expansion etc that you only have to do the jump from nothing to current gear and because of how late it is the crafted (entry level) pvp gear is very bad. To be honest though, its not really "10 years of this" because gearing in general is miles and miles and miles easier than it was for the first years. I mean you can get probably full gear in the time it would have taken for one piece basically in TBC. People complained about welfare epics a lot back then because you COULD get them just by grinding bgs, but it took a LOT of time. haha

edit: I also second that with bad gear it is less painful to get honor from other sources (isle dailies, TolBarad, Wintergrasp) and also if you do like one wing of throne of thunder lfr for rep you can get mostly 522gear for money which then allows you to actually do damage in BGs.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 19:02:59
October 18 2014 18:48 GMT
#3815
On October 19 2014 03:38 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 03:11 m4ini wrote:
One really good thing is the new xp-values. Leveled my warrior toon from 87 to 90 yesterday in roughly 90 minutes, actually missed the 88 ding because i didn't expect it. Fully rested, but it still seemed like blistering fast.

If that goes for lower levels as well, i shall finally finish my mage.

took me around 12-14 hours for 1-60
pretty skeptical of 87-90 in an hour and a half tbh.


Maybe it was 100 instead of 90 minutes. It was under two hours, i know that for a fact. Interestingly btw, i played my shadow-toon from about 85,5 to 87 today in roughly an hour. Fully rested, again, still. And i kinda did that not too long ago with my warrior (pre-6.0.2), so i can compare a bit there.

edit:

But wait, there's more. Each quest in the Jade Forest currently gives 1.27% of your level. At 6.0 you get about 2.5% of your level per quest. So yes, leveling will be faster.


On track to MA1950A.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 18:56:40
October 18 2014 18:54 GMT
#3816
Atreides, vanilla sure, because the mean to acquire gear was raiding. But TBC was faster to gear up to do pvp, specially on AV weekend you would get full PvP set (actually, you could get the last seasons gear cheaper and withouth rating requiriment, of course it wasn't great, but the item gap wasn't that big on TBC). but i guess since they removed the bonus and weekends with this patch, it is a reason why it feels slower to me.

I am not complaining about acquiring the gear, i am complaining about that 10 years (ok, not 10, but 7+1/2) the pvp reward system is basically unchanged even when there exists better ways.

Anyways, back to farming.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 18 2014 19:07 GMT
#3817
That was not TBC, TBC you still needed the tokens from various bgs (lots of them) to buy any given piece and honor gain was MUCH slower per hour than now. (scaled for value changes ofc). Yes AV was extremely good honor relative to other bgs but this just exacerbated the fact that you needed 40 fucking eots tokens to buy boots. haha

Although on writing this out I am reminded that you actually bought current season offpieces with honor and only needed arena points for main set pieces and weapons.

Still remember it taking literally weeks to grind honor on a character instead of the days it takes now, and I played a LOT more back then because I was a grad student on fellowship who actually didnt have to do anything at all besides play WoW. Anyways I still say that gearing up is substantially less time consuming then it was back then, but I think it is because the time spent if far more unpleasant now days that it seems so bad still. (I personally don't see any reason at all to grind out pvp gear on a fresh alt btw. You can get better/equivalent gear for leveling purposes very much more easily doing random unstructured pve so unless you like grinding bgs I dont think its worth it all.)
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 19:15:27
October 18 2014 19:11 GMT
#3818
(I personally don't see any reason at all to grind out pvp gear on a fresh alt btw. You can get better/equivalent gear for leveling purposes very much more easily doing random unstructured pve so unless you like grinding bgs I dont think its worth it all.)


Yup, if you look up a guide to the lockboxes on timeless isle, and have a bit of luck, you got a mostly 493 char in less than 45 minutes. With almost no fighting involved. Plus one guaranteed after 3 or 4 quests and chance on more by tagging rares (there's always people killing them).

edit: not really reliable though, if you're unlucky you only get stuff for other armorclasses - but 3-5 pieces should be doable (i had four back when i did it). And alot less frustrating than grinding pvp for inferiour gear.
On track to MA1950A.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-18 19:31:36
October 18 2014 19:20 GMT
#3819
And as i am telling you, it didn't take weeks, it took days too for the off season gear, of course, if you knew what you were doing and for those you didn't needed the tokens, so you already had something to start. Not to speak that they actually removed the need for tokens half way TBC too.

Right now it doesn't take days btw, there are no bonus right now going on like pre-patch.

And no, honour didn't take weeks, seriously, you remember it wrong. The tokens... well weeks not really, but could be annoying, but luckily for you, you could farm it while levelling. What took weeks was the arena gear for obvious reasons.
On October 19 2014 04:07 Atreides wrote:
(I personally don't see any reason at all to grind out pvp gear on a fresh alt btw. You can get better/equivalent gear for leveling purposes very much more easily doing random unstructured pve so unless you like grinding bgs I dont think its worth it all.)


Yeah i kinda like PvP. PvE stuff bores me too much. And it is satisfying when you kill a 80k health lock with your 40k character
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
October 18 2014 21:02 GMT
#3820
I'm still trying to get the cloak on my mage before the expansion hits... 12/20 secrets now... gonna be close.

Of course, doing wings 1 and 2 of tot took like 4-5 hours. Ugh.
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