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Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
October 11 2014 13:43 GMT
#3501
I got suckered back in. Is the TL EU guild thing still happening?
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 11 2014 13:56 GMT
#3502
No Maybe for WoD though. Let's make it Alliance!!! COME ON!!!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 14:03:48
October 11 2014 14:03 GMT
#3503
On October 11 2014 22:24 Godwrath wrote:
I was levelling a warrior in preparation to WoD, got her to lvl 85. Then, i had some time to spare and decided to check the forums about warrior arms changes on WoD.... so how fun are the rogue, mage or the lock at WoD ? i don't care about spec or OPness, just mechanichs that require me to think a little bit (as little it may be).


Mages mostly aren't changed that much, except that you don't need the stars to align with alter time to do good damage. You can go rune of power with every spec now, and it's a little better than it was in mop, and that does require a lot of thought/planning, but is also annoying as fuck Some talents (unstable magic especially) are fucking stupid though, thankfully they aren't that good.

Fuck alliance
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 14:12:20
October 11 2014 14:10 GMT
#3504
Sad times, cant be bothered to go back to my old guild cos of drama. At least it did give me the best "cant believe it's not bullshit" story I've ever told :')

Can't say I give a shit about faction specific stuff though especially with the new free max level dude everyone gets.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21703 Posts
October 11 2014 14:12 GMT
#3505
On October 11 2014 22:56 Arnstein wrote:
No Maybe for WoD though. Let's make it Alliance!!! COME ON!!!

TL guilds just never work out, To many different goals and expectations.
It just doesnt work.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
October 11 2014 14:23 GMT
#3506
How are Resto Shams in the beta, both in PvP and PvE?
Moderator
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
October 11 2014 14:36 GMT
#3507
On October 11 2014 23:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
How are Resto Shams in the beta, both in PvP and PvE?


Worst healer of all healers in PvE. I was going to roll mine but its terrible. They are just so weak and they fucked up. MMO champion forum is a good place to read about them.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 11 2014 14:39 GMT
#3508
mmo champion is negative as fuck tbh. It's bnet levels of shit in a lot of threads.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
October 11 2014 14:43 GMT
#3509
Yeah but the numbers some people post are viable but yeh it is very emo xD
But they are the worst ranked of the healers and won't be needed in Mythic for example.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21703 Posts
October 11 2014 14:46 GMT
#3510
On October 11 2014 23:36 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 23:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
How are Resto Shams in the beta, both in PvP and PvE?


Worst healer of all healers in PvE. I was going to roll mine but its terrible. They are just so weak and they fucked up. MMO champion forum is a good place to read about them.

The cant be more useless then Monks. Its impossible! ;p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
October 11 2014 14:51 GMT
#3511
What about PvP
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
October 11 2014 15:02 GMT
#3512
Not sure about PvP as i don't play it. More figures will come out over the next week or so though due to 6.0 hitting 14th October and thats where the big data will be available to see.
So over the next couple of weeks check out your MMO champion etc and you will see more numbers.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 15:10:12
October 11 2014 15:09 GMT
#3513
On October 11 2014 23:43 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but the numbers some people post are viable but yeh it is very emo xD
But they are the worst ranked of the healers and won't be needed in Mythic for example.


Yeah and this is what one of the few actually good players there had to say about Ret for example, which is one of the most emo specs atm

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1542776-Retribution-WoD-Alpha-Beta-Info-amp-Discussion?p=29935508#post29935508
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1542776-Retribution-WoD-Alpha-Beta-Info-amp-Discussion?p=29946271&viewfull=1#post29946271

Shut up and play your char yo
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 11 2014 15:40 GMT
#3514
Huh, made about 7k off questing and selling DMF quest items, and now I'm spending it all on Pandaria herbs and random scribes to mill them into ink of dreams for me, so I can powerlevel my own inscription.

Hoping that maxing it will be worth it in WoD.
ffxiv enjoyer
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 11 2014 22:31 GMT
#3515
are dk 100 talents still completely all dps losses or are they finally tuned yet
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 23:16:26
October 11 2014 23:05 GMT
#3516
Some classes like Moonkin and Ele still require bit of brains to get full potential out of it though.


Not entirely true. Boomkins are by far the dumbest spec to play now. Actually, that's not entirely true. You're not really playing anymore, you're reacting to a bar that goes up and down by itself, with absolutely zero control (bar goes left, press left button for pewpew, bar goes right, press right button for pewpew, sometimes for proccs press middle button). It's like being a passenger in a train. What that new bar means for PvP should be quite obvious as well, you can now predict when a boomkin goes weeee and just dodge it.

I was really into pruning, until i actually saw what they did to alot of specs. Not because of broken DPS/Healing (don't even know the numbers, since i wouldn't reroll for a better dps-class anyway, so i just go with it), but because of how they play. There's three, maybe four specs that are actually playable without getting a repetetive brain-aneurysm. Not that classes are overly complex on live (apart from PvP maybe, with focus/teammate specific macros). Now they're not complex at all anymore, just simple. Two things that can actually work well together, simple, but complex. And Blizzard can do it (see Hearthstone, incredibly simple, yet complex). Just not in World of Warcraft, apparently.

edit

As a Priest who mainly played during S6 and S7 of WOTLK, fuck TSG and melee cleaves.


Mained a disc in S3, where i developed a deep, heartfelt hatred for restodruids and warlocks (R/P in 2v2). TSG and meleecleaves would be a welcomed change though, it has gotten boring, compwise. Also wish RMP would be viable again - not that i play any class in that setup anymore, just for the nostalgia.
On track to MA1950A.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 12 2014 04:01 GMT
#3517
I thought I was entirely done with WoW, but holy hell those patch notes are amazing. Well done Blizzard.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 12 2014 04:32 GMT
#3518
On October 12 2014 08:05 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
Some classes like Moonkin and Ele still require bit of brains to get full potential out of it though.


Not entirely true. Boomkins are by far the dumbest spec to play now. Actually, that's not entirely true. You're not really playing anymore, you're reacting to a bar that goes up and down by itself, with absolutely zero control (bar goes left, press left button for pewpew, bar goes right, press right button for pewpew, sometimes for proccs press middle button). It's like being a passenger in a train. What that new bar means for PvP should be quite obvious as well, you can now predict when a boomkin goes weeee and just dodge it.

I was really into pruning, until i actually saw what they did to alot of specs. Not because of broken DPS/Healing (don't even know the numbers, since i wouldn't reroll for a better dps-class anyway, so i just go with it), but because of how they play. There's three, maybe four specs that are actually playable without getting a repetetive brain-aneurysm. Not that classes are overly complex on live (apart from PvP maybe, with focus/teammate specific macros). Now they're not complex at all anymore, just simple. Two things that can actually work well together, simple, but complex. And Blizzard can do it (see Hearthstone, incredibly simple, yet complex). Just not in World of Warcraft, apparently.

edit

Show nested quote +
As a Priest who mainly played during S6 and S7 of WOTLK, fuck TSG and melee cleaves.


Mained a disc in S3, where i developed a deep, heartfelt hatred for restodruids and warlocks (R/P in 2v2). TSG and meleecleaves would be a welcomed change though, it has gotten boring, compwise. Also wish RMP would be viable again - not that i play any class in that setup anymore, just for the nostalgia.


Based on 20 minutes on a dummy on the PTR, I can say I will never play Boomkin post 6.0. Once they come to their senses and remove the Eclipse bar, then the spec might be playable.

I ran SP/Aff in 2s S1-3 and I echo your utter disdain for resto druids. Luckily, they're pretty mediocre in arenas now and will be pretty horrible in 6.0 PvP because their instant heals are losing so much power.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 12 2014 04:45 GMT
#3519
On October 12 2014 13:32 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 08:05 m4ini wrote:
Some classes like Moonkin and Ele still require bit of brains to get full potential out of it though.


Not entirely true. Boomkins are by far the dumbest spec to play now. Actually, that's not entirely true. You're not really playing anymore, you're reacting to a bar that goes up and down by itself, with absolutely zero control (bar goes left, press left button for pewpew, bar goes right, press right button for pewpew, sometimes for proccs press middle button). It's like being a passenger in a train. What that new bar means for PvP should be quite obvious as well, you can now predict when a boomkin goes weeee and just dodge it.

I was really into pruning, until i actually saw what they did to alot of specs. Not because of broken DPS/Healing (don't even know the numbers, since i wouldn't reroll for a better dps-class anyway, so i just go with it), but because of how they play. There's three, maybe four specs that are actually playable without getting a repetetive brain-aneurysm. Not that classes are overly complex on live (apart from PvP maybe, with focus/teammate specific macros). Now they're not complex at all anymore, just simple. Two things that can actually work well together, simple, but complex. And Blizzard can do it (see Hearthstone, incredibly simple, yet complex). Just not in World of Warcraft, apparently.

edit

As a Priest who mainly played during S6 and S7 of WOTLK, fuck TSG and melee cleaves.


Mained a disc in S3, where i developed a deep, heartfelt hatred for restodruids and warlocks (R/P in 2v2). TSG and meleecleaves would be a welcomed change though, it has gotten boring, compwise. Also wish RMP would be viable again - not that i play any class in that setup anymore, just for the nostalgia.


Based on 20 minutes on a dummy on the PTR, I can say I will never play Boomkin post 6.0. Once they come to their senses and remove the Eclipse bar, then the spec might be playable.

I ran SP/Aff in 2s S1-3 and I echo your utter disdain for resto druids. Luckily, they're pretty mediocre in arenas now and will be pretty horrible in 6.0 PvP because their instant heals are losing so much power.

They're going back to their HoT-centric niche . Exciting to me for PvE, but I can see why a lot of people are going to shy away from it in Arena
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-12 12:18:45
October 12 2014 12:15 GMT
#3520
For PvE, i actually main a druid at the moment (for the longest part resto, just finished farming cat-gear and changed spec), and i'm kinda content with it. Feral appears to be one of the few specs that's decently fun to play. Which is good, because my other choices would've been a warrior (..) or shaman, which both suck ballsack in WoD (again, not talking damagewise, don't know the numbers).

About the HoT-centric niche, i think it's more good than bad if properly implemented. But it won't make them shy away from PvP, in fact, that niche was what made them so retardedly strong in the earlier seasons (especially LB, and obviously paired with clone). Although, it was a bit different, nowadays you just punch through the HoTs, back in the days you had to dispel them or you wouldn't be able to kill anything (which made LB so strong). Depending on how the numbers turn out (didn't see the damage/healing in PvP yet), might work again.
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