EPTOn July 08 2014 00:17 scFoX wrote:
Okay, I can send a pretender now if it's okay. LA Caelum, and I'm abusing the 0-cost titan chassis.
Okay, I can send a pretender now if it's okay. LA Caelum, and I'm abusing the 0-cost titan chassis.
then do so
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mahrgell
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On July 08 2014 00:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: LA Caelum is at the very least playable now, what with researchers with resource bonus (so desperately needed for them), and the new Daeva summons giving them some powerful mages, if overcosted. Huh. I didn't notice there was a forge-bonus mage in the lot (is that what you meant by resource bonus?). Don't worry, I will proceed to wreck any advantage I might have. Done. How about my question concerning the 1.22 hotfix? | ||
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On July 08 2014 00:29 scFoX wrote: Huh. I didn't notice there was a forge-bonus mage in the lot (is that what you meant by resource bonus?). Don't worry, I will proceed to wreck any advantage I might have. No, he meant that the iron crafter on top of the forgebonus, and being a very good cheap researcher (45 gold for 7 research? wow), also provides +10 resources to the fort he's located in to be used from troop recruitment..... that's quite a rare mechanic, as far as i know only MA ulm and Caelum can abuse it that well | ||
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On July 08 2014 04:38 Skirmjan wrote: No, he meant that the iron crafter on top of the forgebonus, and being a very good cheap researcher (45 gold for 7 research? wow), also provides +10 resources to the fort he's located in to be used from troop recruitment..... that's quite a rare mechanic, as far as i know only MA ulm and Caelum can abuse it that well I'm playing Ulm next game  | ||
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jaybrundage
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thats correct | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On July 08 2014 04:47 entropius wrote: Damn, LA Ulm smiths are 10 res? I thought my EA ones were nice at 5. MA; LA doesn't have any resource boni. | ||
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entropius
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If you're a lurker, the reason you should play Dominions is because things this detailed happen ... by the hundreds and thousands every battle. A warrior chieftain and his retinue of a dozen barbarians (6 points of PD), peacefully minding their own business, are attacked by a pack of ravening jaguar warriors wielding flaming macauhuitls and vowing to fight on even with mortal wounds (F9D4 bless) out to capture young lasses for the horrible blood sacrifices required by the Mictlan Candle Company, along with their rock- and stick-throwing chaff buddies. This will clearly not do, so they grab their greatswords and charge into their deaths. The barbarians charge in between the two giant stacks of jaguars, both of which turn around and chase them, leaving our brave chieftain and one of his useless redshirt buddies that's already been bonked in the head by a rock squaring off against two ravening jaguar warriors. The chieftain gets the first swing and lops the arm off of one of the fiends with his greatsword. He tries to punch him, but Chief Leeroy repels him. The second jaguar hits him, his steel armor shattering the obsidian blades, but the force of the blow cracks a rib. Motivated by this, the redshirt runs away, leaving Leeroy alone to fight the monstrosities. Not that happy about this development, Leeroy turns to the one-armed jaguar and impales him square in the chest with his zweihander. The warrior's jaguar hide merges into his body and he becomes a ferocious werejaguar, albeit one with a mortal wound from the gaping hole in his chest and only the one arm. He tries to claw and bite Leeroy, who repels both attacks, the small cuts from the parries finally downing him. Leeroy parries the other jaguar's swing... and, before he can strike again, the other three dozen jaguars, done slaughtering his friends, run him down and chop his brave little head off. Battle log was: Leeroy hits Jag #1 (atk 25 vs. def 18) for 13 (32 damage - 21 prot) in the arm for 13 points (chopped off arm) Jag #1 repelled by Leeroy (28 vs. 14) Jag #2 hits Leeroy in chest (20 vs. 18) for 3 physical (22-19) and 4 fire (14-10) Leeroy critically hits Jag #1 (26 vs. 25) in the chest for 31 (30 damage - 5 prot) Jag #1 now in werejaguar form at -4/18 hp, alive due to undying Leeroy repels Jag #1's bite (19 vs. 14) and claw (32 vs. 23), knocking him to -5 and killing him. Jag #2 misses Leeroy (22 vs. 22) ... the rest overrun him. =) | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On July 07 2014 20:41 Skirmjan wrote: This would be my first multi game, but i will claim it anyway if it's not a problem.... remind me please, what's the turn interval and how much time do i have to make a pretender and choose a nation? + Show Spoiler + (i'm probably going to shoot myself in the foot and take Mictlan, i don't really like any other LA nation except maybe pythium and atlantis that's taken) the game version is vanilla with worthy heroes mod, uh? (which only buffs up heroes and adds others, right?) LA Mictlan is OP as hell. I wouldn't say you're shooting yourself in the foot  . However they do tend to take a lot of midgame -lategame micro. I considered them but dropped the idea because around turn 30 ish, turns start taking an hour long. | ||
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On July 08 2014 09:22 KissBlade wrote: LA Mictlan is OP as hell. I wouldn't say you're shooting yourself in the foot . However they do tend to take a lot of midgame -lategame micro. I considered them but dropped the idea because around turn 30 ish, turns start taking an hour long.Yea, that's the problem, it is the poster child of blood nations after all(which i usually despise, mictlan is the exception since it goes full out on it ) and with dieing dominion to booth, it wont bore me cause it's an hell of a fun nation, but playing it may fatigue me well into the 200's (dominions in-joke) | ||
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On July 08 2014 09:09 entropius wrote: snp I don't even wanna open the turn nao ;_; | ||
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Incidentally, they seem like a crazy good bless rush nation (not that I'm going for that). Dual bless zhayedans = ow. | ||
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Ultraliskhero
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On July 08 2014 09:09 entropius wrote: Heroism in Bed Gardens... As I read through this I dearly hoped for Leeroy to survive... too bad  The world of dominions is ever so unforgiving. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On July 08 2014 13:11 entropius wrote: Is it OP? I mean, they get better pretender chassis, but Tolkien's opinion (who's probably the most experienced guy here) is that it's just a racial advantage, like Arco's dominion spying mechanic or similar. It's a nice flavor for the Zoroastrian nations. They are OP. And the Caelum/Rag pretender chassis are going to be fixed next patch. Illwinter mentioned something along the effects of their numbers are wrong. OP pretender exclusive access shouldn't be played down. It is a HUGE advantage. | ||
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