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On February 22 2014 06:33 3point14 wrote:
well all the replays I had were from 5 years ago. different computers...
i dont even remember them
do I have to install a version switcher for your replay? i guess so?
btw Ive been watching replays of Hla recently. really interesting player, very creative, fresh ideas and dynamic playstyle
No you dont ,  I started drinking in 2011 ( yeah late to the party )
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I think if I were drunk I would probably forget using all my items and skills and especially would not make my AM invisible in a fight, so you did allright there. the amount of units you kill, while your heros are dead is quite staggering though, makes any exphunters heart bleed XD
your opponent should learn to put 5 peons in goldmine and actually use t3 for anything :/
Itd be fun if people posted replays here more often, I think I might add one soon
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On February 22 2014 21:52 3point14 wrote:
I think if I were drunk I would probably forget using all my items and skills and especially would not make my AM invisible in a fight, so you did allright there. the amount of units you kill, while your heros are dead is quite staggering though, makes any exphunters heart bleed XD
your opponent should learn to put 5 peons in goldmine and actually use t3 for anything :/
Itd be fun if people posted replays here more often, I think I might add one soon
like I said , no fucking idea XD , I think it was all instinct or something.
Yeah I agree , we should post some more replays , I'll check my folder again to see if I can find something worth uploading.
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First off all I'd like to thank Spaylz for this awesome thread and putting the effort into keeping it updated.
I am here as one of the admins of the Open Cup and wanted keep you guys up to date.
On the contrary to what some people say Wc3 TFT still has a fairly active scene. So after Zotac Cups were closed there was still a big demand for tournaments on a regular basis. That's how war3tv.com and the Open Cup came into existence.
Open Cup #1 took place on the 16th of February. With over 150 players and a huge coverage on twitch and other streaming sites it was a big success. Many popular players took part (for example TH000, WarchiefRich, Yaws, HLA). You can read the news post here.
Open Cup #2 is going to take place on the 1st of March, 15:00 CET / 09:00 EST. We have already some big names signed up and more will surely follow. Everybody can take part, so if you're interested be sure to sign up on war3tv.com or just tune in on saturday and enjoy the show!
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Hello Arnold2508, and welcome to the thread.
The time you spend posting in this thread is greatly appreciated. I don't know if you noticed, but I did update the OP to add the Open Cup under the Leagues & Competitions section.
I for one am happy you guys decided to pick up the torch that the ZOTAC put down. I wasn't able to follow the first Open Cup due to work, and sadly I won't be able to completely follow the next one as I'll be taking the plane and traveling to the US on Saturday. :-(
I'll be watching the beginning though, and I'm excited about it. I do have one question though: maybe I'm just inept at browsing your website, but I can't seem to find the full brackets and results for the first OPEN Cup (aside from your news). Will your website show the cups that already took place in a specific section, much like ZOTAC did, with the brackets available and all?
In any case, great job by war3tv, and I hope this continues for a long while so we can keep watching some great WC3 games.
Long live WC3!
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Good question. We already have a history section because we saw that many other tournaments started too late with that.
Tournaments and Events > Open Cup > Open Cup History (or just click this link)
Do you think it is too hard to find it there?
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Id love to watch it but I havent seen a switcher for version 1.8
If you have more recent replays, upload please! 
Respect for playing Cryptlord ^^
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On February 25 2014 01:02 3point14 wrote:Id love to watch it but I havent seen a switcher for version 1.8 If you have more recent replays, upload please! Respect for playing Cryptlord ^^
I think Cryptlord is one of the most under rated heroes in the game
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maybe he can bring balance to the Wc3 universe against Orc 
btw: are there any other RTSs with Heros like Wc3? Cause the game mechanics are so fucking cool, if nothing new comes, Im always gonna play Wc3
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On February 25 2014 05:03 3point14 wrote:maybe he can bring balance to the Wc3 universe against Orc btw: are there any other RTSs with Heros like Wc3? Cause the game mechanics are so fucking cool, if nothing new comes, Im always gonna play Wc3
Dawn of War2 utilized heroes, but it wasn't very popular. Most people don't like the direction the game went when you compare it to the first one.
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i remember DoW 1. it was actually pretty fun but very buggy
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On February 25 2014 00:52 Arnold2508 wrote:Good question. We already have a history section because we saw that many other tournaments started too late with that. Tournaments and Events > Open Cup > Open Cup History (or just click this link) Do you think it is too hard to find it there?
Oh, indeed. Did you recently add that section? I don't recall seeing it when I tried to find the results of the first Open Cup a week or so ago.
I think it's fine as it is. Good job!
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Oh, indeed. Did you recently add that section? I don't recall seeing it when I tried to find the results of the first Open Cup a week or so ago.
Yes you are right about that. We added it when we realized that other tournaments had this problem and started too late. Always trying to learn from the mistakes
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Hello I am incredibly new to the W3:TFT scene. and I currently play on the W3Arena server(im terrible) as Orc. Are there any build-order/strategy guides for the Orc race that you guys can show me? Thanks in advance
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On February 25 2014 06:18 3point14 wrote:
i remember DoW 1. it was actually pretty fun but very buggy
it wasnt the bugs that broke the game, the units were just ridiculous unbalanced
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On February 25 2014 14:08 RyzaSt0rm wrote:
Hello I am incredibly new to the W3:TFT scene. and I currently play on the W3Arena server(im terrible) as Orc. Are there any build-order/strategy guides for the Orc race that you guys can show me? Thanks in advance
Hello RysaSt0rm, and welcome to the thread. It's great to know some people are still discovering the amazing game that is WC3.
First off, if you are really completely new, I recommend you play on BNet rather than w3arena. The player base of w3arena is small, and the level of play is also higher. You are more than likely to meet players who belong in the top rankings, and the small community basically makes the ladder meaningless as you can literally meet anybody. You will have a slight delay in BNet, but your games will probably be more productive and less one-sided.
Now, regarding strategy. I suggest you check out Replays.net and download any Orc replay you can find. This will help you grasp the basics regarding build order etc.
Out of all four races, Orc probably has it easiest when it comes to "cookie cutter" builds. Basically, people tend to say Orcs can win any match-up with BM/SH (Blademaster and Shadow Hunter) or BM/TC (Blademaster and Tauren Chieftain) and Grunts/Raiders/Spirit Walkers. It is sort of true. That particular combo of units is very strong and can pretty much do very well against most strategies. The FS (Far Seer) is also very viable, though not as popular because of the BM's tendency to turn into a serious killing machine when played right.
Orc is generally the aggressor in a game, as they have powerful harassing options with both of their best starting heroes: BM and FS. The BM is particularly efficient at creep jacking and stealing creeps and/or items. He's also good at scouting the map once he has Boots, and he's generally a very powerful (if not the most powerful) hero. He's quite frankly very unbalanced, but that's another topic. The FS on the other hand is ranged, making it possible to kite, and also has very good skills. His wolves allow you to creep while taking little to no damage on your units, and they're also great for scouting, fighting and harassing workers. He also has excellent fight presence thanks to Chain Lightning. Chain Lightning + Shockwave is deadly in big fights.
You should also read the breakdown of the Orc race I wrote in the OP. It includes a short description of the core concepts of the race, and lets you know about their basic strengths and weaknesses. You should also read the tips section, it will help.
I say watch a couple of replays to get the basic build orders down (they really aren't very complicated, just watch the buildings the player builds and the order in which they build them, and keep an eye on the worker production to try to identify the right timing for the buildings) and go play some games on BNet to practice them. You can begin working on the rest after that.
And never forget: long live WC3!
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On February 25 2014 15:16 Spaylz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 14:08 RyzaSt0rm wrote:
Hello I am incredibly new to the W3:TFT scene. and I currently play on the W3Arena server(im terrible) as Orc. Are there any build-order/strategy guides for the Orc race that you guys can show me? Thanks in advance Hello RysaSt0rm, and welcome to the thread. It's great to know some people are still discovering the amazing game that is WC3. First off, if you are really completely new, I recommend you play on BNet rather than w3arena. The player base of w3arena is small, and the level of play is also higher. You are more than likely to meet players who belong in the top rankings, and the small community basically makes the ladder meaningless as you can literally meet anybody. You will have a slight delay in BNet, but your games will probably be more productive and less one-sided. Now, regarding strategy. I suggest you check out Replays.net and download any Orc replay you can find. This will help you grasp the basics regarding build order etc. Out of all four races, Orc probably has it easiest when it comes to "cookie cutter" builds. Basically, people tend to say Orcs can win any match-up with BM/SH (Blademaster and Shadow Hunter) or BM/TC (Blademaster and Tauren Chieftain) and Grunts/Raiders/Spirit Walkers. It is sort of true. That particular combo of units is very strong and can pretty much do very well against most strategies. The FS (Far Seer) is also very viable, though not as popular because of the BM's tendency to turn into a serious killing machine when played right. Orc is generally the aggressor in a game, as they have powerful harassing options with both of their best starting heroes: BM and FS. The BM is particularly efficient at creep jacking and stealing creeps and/or items. He's also good at scouting the map once he has Boots, and he's generally a very powerful (if not the most powerful) hero. He's quite frankly very unbalanced, but that's another topic. The FS on the other hand is ranged, making it possible to kite, and also has very good skills. His wolves allow you to creep while taking little to no damage on your units, and they're also great for scouting, fighting and harassing workers. He also has excellent fight presence thanks to Chain Lightning. Chain Lightning + Shockwave is deadly in big fights. You should also read the breakdown of the Orc race I wrote in the OP. It includes a short description of the core concepts of the race, and lets you know about their basic strengths and weaknesses. You should also read the tips section, it will help. I say watch a couple of replays to get the basic build orders down (they really aren't very complicated, just watch the buildings the player builds and the order in which they build them, and keep an eye on the worker production to try to identify the right timing for the buildings) and go play some games on BNet to practice them. You can begin working on the rest after that. And never forget: long live WC3!
Thanks for your suggestions, However I do not think I have access to the BNet servers because I am using the WC3 Client from iCCup. Are there any other servers that I should check out for my skill level?
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On February 25 2014 05:03 3point14 wrote:
btw: are there any other RTSs with Heros like Wc3? Cause the game mechanics are so fucking cool, if nothing new comes, Im always gonna play Wc3
Without searching too much I can only name Dawn of War series. It includes:
Dawn of War and its expansions Winter Assault, Dark Crusade and Soulstorm.
Dawn of War II and its expansions Chaos Rising and Retribution.
I'll describe some features of the gameplay (this is a very general overview, tell me if you want to know more details):
First DoW has macro part similar to WC3, with tech tree and division by tiers. You start at T1 and after you meet some requirements you can upgrade to T2, and after than to T3. You don't need to make many production buildings, supply caps are relatively low, resource income is limited, and it's more important to micro you troops than to spam new units constantly like in SC2. Main resource "requisition" is gathered by capturing and holding strategic points on the map, this creates a constant need for the map control. In WC3 map control would grant you experience and items, here it grants you better resource income. Secondary resource is gathered by building generators, guess you could compare it to wood in WarCraft.
Micro is really important and fights are very dynamic, in this sense game is also similar to WC3. All troops are generally divided into infantry and vehicles, most infantry is produced and controlled as squads. Squads can be reinforces at any point if you have enough resources, this increases their survivability and makes fights more back and forth. The game places less emphasis on heroes than WC3 but they are still very significant. There are no experience and items, but heroes can be made stronger by making upgrades.
It's important to preserve your troops just like in WC3, albeit for a different reason. Here your income is very limited and part of it has to be used for tech and upgrades, so you can't afford to lose troops carelessly.
Dawn of War II is fairly different from DoW 1. Most of the macro was cut from the game and micro was made even more important. The scale of the game is smaller, there are more various abilities and more emphasis on unit preservation.
I won't describe differences between base games and their expansions, it would make the post a bit too long. If you are interested, I would suggest you to try the games in order they were released. Except for the Soulstorm, it was made by a different developer than all the other games in the series, and is just an attempt to make money without putting much effort. Soulstorm is the most buggy game in the series and some of the design decision they made are also very questionable.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I like DoW 1 a lot and still play it online occasionally.
On February 25 2014 14:33 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 06:18 3point14 wrote:
i remember DoW 1. it was actually pretty fun but very buggy it wasnt the bugs that broke the game, the units were just ridiculous unbalanced
It does have balance problems, true, but they are not game breaking if you play with the latest patch. Better player would still win most of the time, balance issues only become crucial at the significantly high level of play.
Also, when you are mentioning balance you should clarify what version of the game you are talking about.
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On February 25 2014 17:58 MyrMindservant wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 05:03 3point14 wrote:
btw: are there any other RTSs with Heros like Wc3? Cause the game mechanics are so fucking cool, if nothing new comes, Im always gonna play Wc3 Without searching too much I can only name Dawn of War series. It includes: Dawn of War and its expansions Winter Assault, Dark Crusade and Soulstorm. Dawn of War II and its expansions Chaos Rising and Retribution. I'll describe some features of the gameplay (this is a very general overview, tell me if you want to know more details): First DoW has macro part similar to WC3, with tech tree and division by tiers. You start at T1 and after you meet some requirements you can upgrade to T2, and after than to T3. You don't need to make many production buildings, supply caps are relatively low, resource income is limited, and it's more important to micro you troops than to spam new units constantly like in SC2. Main resource "requisition" is gathered by capturing and holding strategic points on the map, this creates a constant need for the map control. In WC3 map control would grant you experience and items, here it grants you better resource income. Secondary resource is gathered by building generators, guess you could compare it to wood in WarCraft. Micro is really important and fights are very dynamic, in this sense game is also similar to WC3. All troops are generally divided into infantry and vehicles, most infantry is produced and controlled as squads. Squads can be reinforces at any point if you have enough resources, this increases their survivability and makes fights more back and forth. The game places less emphasis on heroes than WC3 but they are still very significant. There are no experience and items, but heroes can be made stronger by making upgrades. It's important to preserve your troops just like in WC3, albeit for a different reason. Here your income is very limited and part of it has to be used for tech and upgrades, so you can't afford to lose troops carelessly. Dawn of War II is fairly different from DoW 1. Most of the macro was cut from the game and micro was made even more important. The scale of the game is smaller, there are more various abilities and more emphasis on unit preservation. I won't describe differences between base games and their expansions, it would make the post a bit too long. If you are interested, I would suggest you to try the games in order they were released. Except for the Soulstorm, it was made by a different developer than all the other games in the series, and is just an attempt to make money without putting much effort. Soulstorm is the most buggy game in the series and some of the design decision they made are also very questionable. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I like DoW 1 a lot and still play it online occasionally. Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 14:33 arb wrote:On February 25 2014 06:18 3point14 wrote:
i remember DoW 1. it was actually pretty fun but very buggy it wasnt the bugs that broke the game, the units were just ridiculous unbalanced It does have balance problems, true, but they are not game breaking if you play with the latest patch. Better player would still win most of the time, balance issues only become crucial at the significantly high level of play. Also, when you are mentioning balance you should clarify what version of the game you are talking about.
Holy shit man ! you seem like a legit DOW player , Please add me to your steam and lets play a few games !!! Retribution or Soulstorm ( and Dark crusade if you want to avoid the ss bugs )
slicks_tchado
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On February 25 2014 15:39 RyzaSt0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 15:16 Spaylz wrote:On February 25 2014 14:08 RyzaSt0rm wrote:
Hello I am incredibly new to the W3:TFT scene. and I currently play on the W3Arena server(im terrible) as Orc. Are there any build-order/strategy guides for the Orc race that you guys can show me? Thanks in advance Hello RysaSt0rm, and welcome to the thread. It's great to know some people are still discovering the amazing game that is WC3. First off, if you are really completely new, I recommend you play on BNet rather than w3arena. The player base of w3arena is small, and the level of play is also higher. You are more than likely to meet players who belong in the top rankings, and the small community basically makes the ladder meaningless as you can literally meet anybody. You will have a slight delay in BNet, but your games will probably be more productive and less one-sided. Now, regarding strategy. I suggest you check out Replays.net and download any Orc replay you can find. This will help you grasp the basics regarding build order etc. Out of all four races, Orc probably has it easiest when it comes to "cookie cutter" builds. Basically, people tend to say Orcs can win any match-up with BM/SH (Blademaster and Shadow Hunter) or BM/TC (Blademaster and Tauren Chieftain) and Grunts/Raiders/Spirit Walkers. It is sort of true. That particular combo of units is very strong and can pretty much do very well against most strategies. The FS (Far Seer) is also very viable, though not as popular because of the BM's tendency to turn into a serious killing machine when played right. Orc is generally the aggressor in a game, as they have powerful harassing options with both of their best starting heroes: BM and FS. The BM is particularly efficient at creep jacking and stealing creeps and/or items. He's also good at scouting the map once he has Boots, and he's generally a very powerful (if not the most powerful) hero. He's quite frankly very unbalanced, but that's another topic. The FS on the other hand is ranged, making it possible to kite, and also has very good skills. His wolves allow you to creep while taking little to no damage on your units, and they're also great for scouting, fighting and harassing workers. He also has excellent fight presence thanks to Chain Lightning. Chain Lightning + Shockwave is deadly in big fights. You should also read the breakdown of the Orc race I wrote in the OP. It includes a short description of the core concepts of the race, and lets you know about their basic strengths and weaknesses. You should also read the tips section, it will help. I say watch a couple of replays to get the basic build orders down (they really aren't very complicated, just watch the buildings the player builds and the order in which they build them, and keep an eye on the worker production to try to identify the right timing for the buildings) and go play some games on BNet to practice them. You can begin working on the rest after that. And never forget: long live WC3! Thanks for your suggestions, However I do not think I have access to the BNet servers because I am using the WC3 Client from iCCup. Are there any other servers that I should check out for my skill level?
Hey RysaSt0rm,
I see. Well, worst comes to worst, you can always buy the game. It's like $15 or so for both WC3:RoC and WC3:TFT, and it's definitely worth it. You might get to enjoy some custom games on BNet too!
Long live WC3!
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