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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 09 2014 18:21 GMT
#561
Everyone get's BM from playing HoN.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 09 2014 18:23 GMT
#562
On February 10 2014 03:21 Zoler wrote:
Everyone get's BM from playing HoN.


Yup , I can testify to that , if a game encourages you to lay down smackdowns with humiliating animations and announcers saying shit like : "KISS MY ASS !" or "SIT DOWN SON !" or " I TOOOOOOOOOOOOLD YOUUUUUUUU !" or " KNOW YOUR PLACE PEASANT !" ...... there is no way you can't go BM after that
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 18:52:55
February 09 2014 18:52 GMT
#563
The team aspect also exacerbates it. Most people, if given the chance, will choose to blame a failure on others rather than on themselves. RT could get pretty bad in WC3 too, but nowhere near as bad. It's true that S2 did nothing to better the situation, and even poured oil on the fire by making money off taunts and other items that pretty much insulted the players for you.

Regarding the TeD thing, he was really the only one to ever pull off that strategy. Only a few players tried to mimic it, I'm assuming because it requires incredible control. I don't really recall any other top tier UD who used that technique on a regular basis...
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17433 Posts
February 09 2014 19:52 GMT
#564
On February 10 2014 03:52 Spaylz wrote:
Regarding the TeD thing, he was really the only one to ever pull off that strategy. Only a few players tried to mimic it, I'm assuming because it requires incredible control. I don't really recall any other top tier UD who used that technique on a regular basis...


1. Control.
2. Practice.
3. Banshees vs Orc is a way more fragile strategy than your standard fiend -> destro. If you won't execute it properly and catch orc player off guard you'll simply get torn to bits as you'll lack the killing power of fiendstro and banshees are actually countered pretty hard with spiritwalkers and TC stomp (pretty much how Orcs counter NE druids, same thing here for the most part). That's also why you don't see many UD utilise necrowagon vs HU (which is a viable strategy, but much harder to pull off than your standard cookie-cutter stuff).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 09 2014 20:58 GMT
#565
you guys should come over to WCR some time, we still have a semi-active WC3 community there.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 09 2014 23:48 GMT
#566
On February 10 2014 05:58 nGBeast wrote:
you guys should come over to WCR some time, we still have a semi-active WC3 community there.


I'm all for gathering the remains of the EU/NA WC3 community. By semi-active, do you mean in forums for discussions, or do you hold actual events and such? I think it'd be awesome to try and organize something like that.
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 05:09:51
February 10 2014 05:09 GMT
#567
On February 10 2014 05:58 nGBeast wrote:
you guys should come over to WCR some time, we still have a semi-active WC3 community there.


I tried to sign up so many times but your website doesn't let me , I keep getting an email saying my account wasnt approved
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
February 10 2014 05:41 GMT
#568
I've just found this:
http://war3tv.com/2014/02/01/open-cup-set-to-begin-february-16/

Apparently, there will be new regular tournament(s) aimed to fill the spot left by Zotac Cup.
BoxeR, FanTaSy, Jaedong, Life | White-Ra | Moon || Na'Vi, Wings || ༼ᕤ $◡$ ༽ᕤ MIDAS HIM
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 10 2014 06:02 GMT
#569
That's amazing news!

I'd love to see that grow and develop into something as big as ZOTAC, or even bigger. I'm probably going to donate, I encourage anyone still interested in WC3 to do so as well. Tomorrow I'll add the info about the tournament in the OP.

Not to mention it will also help w3arena grow, which is also very good.

Long live WC3!
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 10 2014 17:32 GMT
#570
Yaws streaming !

http://www.twitch.tv/yiggedyyaws

Follow him on facebook here , he uploads replay packs and stream times there

https://www.facebook.com/itsyAwS
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 10 2014 17:40 GMT
#571
Oh, I really liked yAwS. He was a very good 2v2 player, with... dArk, I believe? I think it was HU/Orc. He was also pretty decent in 1v1, I know he kept improving until he stopped or something.

It's good to see so many good players from back when are still around, and still playing WC3 no less. Greatest game of all time, I've said it before and will say it again.

I'm very busy today, but I'll try to add his stream and the info about the tournament later.
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 10 2014 19:11 GMT
#572
Hey guys , a yaws replay pack from tonight's stream

http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/83144039/file.html

There are some really sick games in there.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 10 2014 20:26 GMT
#573
I just updated the OP with all the info about yAwS' stream and Facebook page, as well as the info about the OPEN Cup.

Long live WC3!
I like words.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 14 2014 22:52 GMT
#574
On February 10 2014 14:09 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 05:58 nGBeast wrote:
you guys should come over to WCR some time, we still have a semi-active WC3 community there.


I tried to sign up so many times but your website doesn't let me , I keep getting an email saying my account wasnt approved


PM me you're email and I'll tell the mods to email you, they started approving all accounts to stop the hackers/trash talkers from BNET trash talking each other in the community replay section lol.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 18:30:49
February 15 2014 16:09 GMT
#575
Hey guys!

Remember, the first OPEN Cup takes place tomorrow. I'll try to post a link when it starts so those who want to watch it can follow it.

Long live WC3!
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 16 2014 06:44 GMT
#576
You guys wanna discuss this ?



I think Khaldor made an excellent argument there , although he only spoke for a few minutes in both videos about the hero element in wc3 in relation to viewers , I never considered it but it is true , I showed the final match of wcg 2011 to a friend of mine who quit the game in 2004 , he forgot most of the game but when he saw TeD and Fly do what they do with their heroes , he was getting excited.....way more than he ever did when I showed him sick sc2 play.

It funny how sometimes in LR threads someone mentions something about wc3 and all of sudden the hero aspect of the games bashed ( disclaimer : it only happened a few times , it isnt the case with the majority of TLers ) , while I think the thing I love most about the game is the hero aspect , now I actually have some way to articulate the argument.

Another issue that came up in the recent legendary game between SK and Reality is how long games with stalemates are getting boring because of SH and meching terrans..... a commenter mentioned late game wc3 , if I look back at it I dont recall a single super late game ever to be boring , the game is centered around long ass battles and micro , add high level heroes to that mix and late game wc3 is truly amazing....and yes even mass towers + tank vs bear games.

Back to the video , according the Khaldor sc3 wont make it in future e-sports , while a game like wc4 will , and I think he nailed it perfectly.
Natureboy
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden85 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 09:15:41
February 16 2014 09:13 GMT
#577
I have actually come to think that SC2 is really boring to watch. I think it's fun to play, but what when playing can feel like really intense it can look really dull from an outsite perspective. While you are at home concentrating on macroing your ass off, to a viewer it looks like dead time. Essentially SC2 as it plays out right now is a bunch of dead time in the beginning, large battle in the middle and then someone wins. If they don't it's back to dead time and then another battle. ZvT is probably the matchup IMHO that is the least like this, and the matchup(from both perspectives) I like to watch and play the most.

Just as Khaldor says, you need to know what's going on in SC2, and even then I personally don't really enjoy watching it. Even if you know what they are doing and you get that they are doing it really good, it's still hard to appreciate since the focus is on the units and not on the macro. In WC3 there is allways units doing stuff, which makes it look like there is more stuff going on compared to SC2.

But then again, I don't really care so much about e-sports.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 16 2014 14:18 GMT
#578
anybody watching the open cup ?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 16 2014 15:13 GMT
#579
Hey guys!

A stream for the Open Cup: http://www.twitch.tv/rmmasaa

Sadly, I'm quite busy and I don't have the time to watch it myself.. working on Sunday and stuff. The next one perhaps! I'll be following the results though.

Long live WC3!
I like words.
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:13:47
February 16 2014 17:12 GMT
#580
Oh man, good ol' times of 2005. Coming home half drunk at 12 pm, because of drinking 3 beers :D, starting the old wooden pc and my 56 k modem and just play some laddergames. I want to go back in time. :/
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