• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:49
CEST 10:49
KST 17:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) Remastered crash fix suggestions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch! Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9727 users

Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne - Page 28

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 245 Next
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
January 25 2014 21:34 GMT
#541
Damn, Lucifer lost to Cechi?!

Poor dude just can't catch a break. Can't win the last WCG, can't even win the last Zotac apparently... :-(

I still love you, Lucifer!
I like words.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
January 26 2014 14:49 GMT
#542
Haven't even looked at this game since a few years before sc2 went beta. What are the current imbalances? What are the good/bad matchups? What are the common strats and unit comps these days?
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
January 26 2014 15:15 GMT
#543
Hey MarlieChurphy, and welcome to the thread!

I'd say the metagame has not shifted that much since the start of SC2. Blizzard hasn't balanced the game one bit, so the Blademaster is still too strong, UD still struggles against Orcs, etc.

I'd say that if you had a good knowledge of the game back before you quit, you won't have any trouble finding your marks again. Few things have changed. Humans tend to scout with their first Footman rather than with a militia now, NEs seem to use the Warden a whole lot, Orcs pretty much still stick to the magic formula (BM/SH/Raiders/SW/Grunts) and Undead still heavily relies on nuking to get things done.

Regarding the match-ups, I'd say they look something like this, from most balanced to least balanced:

HU vs. NE
NE vs. UD
UD vs. HU
Orc vs. NE
HU vs. Orc
Orc vs. UD

The strategies haven't changed all that much, although some crazy ones make their way to the top level. TH000 finished the WCG Finals against Moon by going Tinker first + tower rush on EI for example. I know that when I picked the game back up and looked at some games, I didn't see any real major differences, which I think is normal: the game is ten years old after all and while I'm sure there are some possibilities that have yet to be explored, the game has been figured out to a pretty large extent.

I'd say go visit Replays.net and enjoy a few nice games to see it all for yourself!
I like words.
Meth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada396 Posts
February 02 2014 06:44 GMT
#544
I am so happy to have found this thread. I just recently reinstalled the game (never got into even when I had it years ago) and wow I wish I had gotten INTO IT!!! I love it.

Brood war player for 14 years but DAMN. I'm feelin WC3 much much more. I will have to check out all the communities and the replay sites, and GET BUSY.

The problem I have the most is trying to find a stream with which WC3 is being played. Too bad there isn't one like snipealot's stream... just playing and playing and playing replays, old and new.

<3
Brood War for life
Kaos_StarCraft
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia92 Posts
February 02 2014 08:24 GMT
#545
On February 02 2014 15:44 Meth wrote:
I am so happy to have found this thread. I just recently reinstalled the game (never got into even when I had it years ago) and wow I wish I had gotten INTO IT!!! I love it.

Brood war player for 14 years but DAMN. I'm feelin WC3 much much more. I will have to check out all the communities and the replay sites, and GET BUSY.

The problem I have the most is trying to find a stream with which WC3 is being played. Too bad there isn't one like snipealot's stream... just playing and playing and playing replays, old and new.

<3


Damn dude you missed the glory days, WC3 was a truly phenomenal game. There are a tonnes of old games on youtube, most of which include some of the greatest games of all time. Grubby's channel has some of his games up including commentary from the man himself. I'm sure there are still people kicking around on b.net if you're keen for ladder games GLHF :D (Y)
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
February 02 2014 13:41 GMT
#546
report back on your progress in skill
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 02 2014 14:25 GMT
#547
Hey Meth, and welcome to the thread!

You can find a lot of into in the OP, notably regarding replays and what not. Check out the YouTube channels, most of them have a looooot of games, especially Purebe.

If you want to play some games, ring me up; we'll make it happen (:

WC3 Forever!
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 02 2014 17:11 GMT
#548
I said it once I'll say again , Lucifer is a fucking boss ! what an amazing stream where we can see gosu wc3 play and luci smoking whatever he has rolling around XD
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 05 2014 15:17 GMT
#549
Hey guys check this out , I was on Lucifer's stream and I asked him what did for a living , check out his response.

[image loading]

Seems like he is signed to YY , no idea how that works , but I'm glad he can still make a living , is Moon on this shit ??? what is he up to these days ?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 05 2014 15:42 GMT
#550
That's very interesting, although not too surprising. WC3 is still big in Asia after all.

I wonder what it is though. The chat is assuming YY, but Lucifer doesn't confirm, at least not in your quote. Could be something else. Otherwise I would assume it'd be a sponsorship more than an actual "team", and it's entirely possible too, YY seems to be pretty successful.

Will have to watch for announcements in the near future. I don't know about Moon though, haven't seen much of him since the WCG. Were I him, I would have been tempted to come back, especially after the cheers he received from the crowd at the WCG.

WC3 Forever!
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 05 2014 16:26 GMT
#551
We kept talking on chat , it seems like a sponsorship , I thought he was signed to a team but not likely.....at least we can confirm that Lucifer is making a living off of being a wc3 pro gamer , and that is great to know.

We also kept talking on chat , the people there said Moon is heading off to the military , again no confirmation just a fuck ton of people saying it.
Meth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada396 Posts
February 06 2014 16:53 GMT
#552
Thank you for the YT Channel for games to watch, I will bookmark it.

is wc3arena the iccup for wc3? I go on iccup for wc3 and its all dota, so i assume that?
just got wc3a and it had like 30 ppl on it lol

im glad to see bnet is still populated, albeit a minority, for both games WC3 and SC.
Brood War for life
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 06 2014 17:47 GMT
#553
Hey Meth,

w3arena is actually a very nice server, albeit not very populated. Mind you, it's a new server for a ten year old game, and there are perhaps 100 to 200 players on it at most. If I recall, the server was going to shut down but players donated and saved it, which is kind of heartwarming.

The delay is nice, the ladder works great, but it's not optimal for beginners as you tend to meet people at random. Due to the small size of the community, the rankings aren't very relevant and you are likely to meet high ranked people, or even top 10 ranked, in your first levels.

If you are a little more experienced, it is great, as the lag is non-existent and the level is good. Otherwise, BNet works. You'll get some lag, the occasional hacker, but it's still very much enjoyable. The best option is probably YY, as the server is huge with a lot of people and a dedicated ranking system, but it's hard to play if you are not in Asia.

And then we have this little community, where people play together from time to time. Most of us were teenagers when we played WC3, so we naturally had a lot more time on our hands back then. I try to play when I can, but I'm busy with work and I also play other games. If you want to do a game, hit me up here or add me on GArena. You'll find the handles of the most active people in the OP for GArena and BNet.

Plus, if you have questions about the game, I'll be happy to answer.

WC3 Forever!
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 09 2014 13:26 GMT
#554
LOL WTF XD

http://www.sk-gaming.com/forum/12-Warcraft_III/851200-4KGrubby_laughs_about_aids_etc

I know this is old as fuck but does anyone know where I can land the replay ? I wanna know what made grubby so frustrated
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 09 2014 17:01 GMT
#555
That's very old. I believe Grubby commented on it himself later, only to say something like he was goofing around with his teammates and didn't mean it. Let's face it, most players have gone there, no matter the game.

SK.Eric was a notorious moron, he only did it to stir things up and try to bring a bad reputation on Grubby. The whole thing was pretty stupid.

A lot of players had horrible manners in WC3, but not Grubby. I definitely recall a few names... ToD, ElakeDuck and naNiwa were pretty rude all the time. It just spiced things up. I miss it all!
I like words.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 09 2014 17:29 GMT
#556
Elakeduck wasn't rude, he was awesome!

"Can I write imba with peons please?"
:D
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
February 09 2014 17:53 GMT
#557
On January 27 2014 00:15 Spaylz wrote:
Regarding the match-ups, I'd say they look something like this, from most balanced to least balanced:
HU vs. NE
NE vs. UD
UD vs. HU
Orc vs. NE
HU vs. Orc
Orc vs. UD

Since when this? Did something happened since 2010? I don't follow anymore because everyone quitted because of sc2.
Looks like because every top player quitted so that the skill by "bad" players changed the matchup balance.

I never thought that HU vs NE is most balanced matchup oO, it was the second least.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 09 2014 18:00 GMT
#558
Bear in mind that is my personal opinion, not an official statement. It's mostly based on my memory of the discussions I've had in the past.

But I think HU vs. NE was widely considered to be the most balanced match-up, even before 2010. Which match-up would you say is most balanced? And how would HU vs. NE be the top 2 least balanced match-up? I'm curious.
I like words.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 09 2014 18:11 GMT
#559
On January 23 2014 05:18 GranDGranT wrote:
Hey all, Warcraft 3 customs tonight. Twitch.tv/grandgrant Will be playing with Exliquid Korok again, also Bleek and Even you if you want to join.

I can post how to set up Garena if anyone cares to join


lol HoN players playing wc3? cool
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 18:21:32
February 09 2014 18:19 GMT
#560
I get what you are saying Spaylz , we all have been there XD

Funny thing , I was never a BM player in any video game , until I started playing Heroes of Newerth , that community is so toxic if you don't join in on the racism and smack talk it's just not fun at all XD , then I started doing it in wc3.....loving it so far

Btw aside from the topic I really wanna bring this up , how come TeD's tier 2 banshee push vs orc didn't become a match up standard ? I still see alot of replays and streams where UDs just simply refuse to use it , is the strategy dead or has it been figured out by orc players ? I haven't seen anyone but TeD use it , and lets face it , if a strategy can win you a WCG title while shitting on the best orcs in the world.....why not use it ????
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 245 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 692
Shine 120
Soma 101
Killer 65
Hm[arnc] 46
sSak 36
ZerO 34
soO 23
Sharp 20
zelot 10
Dota 2
ODPixel214
League of Legends
Reynor60
Counter-Strike
byalli1178
olofmeister629
kennyS496
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King112
Other Games
summit1g11635
ceh9641
Happy487
JimRising 443
XaKoH 180
Sick171
ZerO(Twitch)5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick867
BasetradeTV32
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH363
• LUISG 15
• Letter145
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2128
League of Legends
• Jankos1721
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 11m
Kung Fu Cup
2h 11m
Replay Cast
15h 11m
KCM Race Survival
1d 1h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 2h
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.