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NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
March 08 2014 18:16 GMT
#641
With Moon gone..wonder who was the best of all time? Thoughts?

Poll: Who is the best WC3 player of all time?

Moon (23)
 
55%

Grubby (8)
 
19%

Sky (7)
 
17%

ToD (1)
 
2%

Madfrog (1)
 
2%

FoV (1)
 
2%

Lucifer (1)
 
2%

Lyn (0)
 
0%

Other (0)
 
0%

42 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best WC3 player of all time?

(Vote): Moon
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Sky
(Vote): ToD
(Vote): Madfrog
(Vote): FoV
(Vote): Lucifer
(Vote): Lyn
(Vote): Other


Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 09 2014 07:02 GMT
#642
ted.forever
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 09 2014 07:46 GMT
#643
I don't even know how you'd argue against Moon/Grubby/Sky who have been at the top of the game throughout their entire careers. I voted moon because even after over a year hiatus, he still remained competitive.
☺
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 08:13:49
March 09 2014 08:13 GMT
#644
We lack remind in that poll.
My brain goes to Moon
My heart goes to MadFrog, DayFly, Sweet, Lucifer and FatC!

Came to know, as the thread says the chinese scene is very active, is there any website with chinese vods/commentary ?
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 09 2014 10:49 GMT
#645
I voted sky because he blew my mind away as a human player , but objectively it's hard to argue against Moon being the greatest wc3 player of all time.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 16:20:53
March 09 2014 16:18 GMT
#646
I voted ToD, and yes I am biased. He's a fellow Frenchman, but I always loved his play style anyway. He was one of the few people who could consistently beat Moon, so he definitely belonged in the top.

To be fair, Lyn is also a serious candidate. He had a long period when he dominated a lot of people and won a lot of tournaments.
I like words.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 17:04:14
March 09 2014 17:03 GMT
#647
I´ve actually never played WC 3 / TFT online... but playing Undead seems to be fun and it´s like the perfect race for me. Would you recommend to try TFT as a newbie? I know I´m too late but that game looks pretty good.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
March 09 2014 17:17 GMT
#648
On March 10 2014 02:03 JoeCool wrote:
I´ve actually never played WC 3 / TFT online... but playing Undead seems to be fun and it´s like the perfect race for me. Would you recommend to try TFT as a newbie? I know I´m too late but that game looks pretty good.


Hey JoeCool, welcome to the thread!

It's never too late to get into WC3, the greatest game of all time.

It's really not too hard to get into TFT and learn fast. Check out the OP, you'll find plenty of information. Go to the wc3 section of Replays.net (URL in the OP) and download some UD replays. Try to mimic the build orders, and try to understand why the players do what they do. If you have questions, feel free to ask them all here, we'll help.

UD is pretty fun, especially if you like nuking stuff!
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 09 2014 17:56 GMT
#649
On March 10 2014 02:17 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 02:03 JoeCool wrote:
I´ve actually never played WC 3 / TFT online... but playing Undead seems to be fun and it´s like the perfect race for me. Would you recommend to try TFT as a newbie? I know I´m too late but that game looks pretty good.


Hey JoeCool, welcome to the thread!

It's never too late to get into WC3, the greatest game of all time.

It's really not too hard to get into TFT and learn fast. Check out the OP, you'll find plenty of information. Go to the wc3 section of Replays.net (URL in the OP) and download some UD replays. Try to mimic the build orders, and try to understand why the players do what they do. If you have questions, feel free to ask them all here, we'll help.

UD is pretty fun, especially if you like nuking stuff!


I hate destros , and getting my AM nuked
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 09 2014 17:57 GMT
#650
On March 10 2014 01:18 Spaylz wrote:
I voted ToD, and yes I am biased. He's a fellow Frenchman, but I always loved his play style anyway. He was one of the few people who could consistently beat Moon, so he definitely belonged in the top.

To be fair, Lyn is also a serious candidate. He had a long period when he dominated a lot of people and won a lot of tournaments.


Speaking of ToD beating Moon , I dont think any human player executed the mass tank strategy against NE as well as ToD did in this game

Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 09 2014 19:41 GMT
#651
On March 10 2014 01:18 Spaylz wrote:
I voted ToD, and yes I am biased. He's a fellow Frenchman, but I always loved his play style anyway. He was one of the few people who could consistently beat Moon, so he definitely belonged in the top.

To be fair, Lyn is also a serious candidate. He had a long period when he dominated a lot of people and won a lot of tournaments.


Grubby will always overshadow Lyn.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
March 09 2014 20:47 GMT
#652
yay, wc3 final at seatstory cup!
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 09 2014 20:58 GMT
#653
I really hate the discussion where is/was #1. Sounds like to be top5 is epzp and players that are 2nd and downwards dont deserve respect and everything. Pretty much the same in sc2 discussions.

For me: Grubby, ToD, Moon, Sky and Lyn are my Top5.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Holannyeong
Profile Joined March 2014
Spain39 Posts
March 09 2014 21:42 GMT
#654
Is there any place to watch the Moon farewell event's VODs apart from Afreeca?
I will live in Korea no matter what.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 09 2014 22:54 GMT
#655
I'd replace Lyn with th000, because Lyn was always a number 2 (to Grubby/Moon). Th000 was a very clear number 1 at the end, regularly beating everyone.
☺
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
March 09 2014 23:05 GMT
#656
just watched first game of Grubby vs Stephano in Wc3 in Seatstorycup.
the casters are going totally nuts about how awesome this game is compared to Sc2. exactly my opinion
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
March 09 2014 23:07 GMT
#657
On March 10 2014 08:05 3point14 wrote:
just watched first game of Grubby vs Stephano in Wc3 in Seatstorycup.
the casters are going totally nuts about how awesome this game is compared to Sc2. exactly my opinion


That's because its non stop fighting, total different dynamic opposed to a-move 20s fight that determines a game.
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
March 09 2014 23:08 GMT
#658
I've never played WC3 multi, but I very much enjoy watching vods of professionals. Now, with WC3 played at SeatStory - and apparently quite enjoyed by the audience - do you think we could have some kind of renaissance incoming? I'd love to have an opportunity to watch quality WC3 streamed to a wide audience.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
March 10 2014 15:33 GMT
#659
On March 10 2014 08:07 NbSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 08:05 3point14 wrote:
just watched first game of Grubby vs Stephano in Wc3 in Seatstorycup.
the casters are going totally nuts about how awesome this game is compared to Sc2. exactly my opinion


That's because its non stop fighting, total different dynamic opposed to a-move 20s fight that determines a game.

Heh, 20s fights is being generous, or early stages of the game. At the latter stages of the game fights frequently take as little as 5-10 seconds to resolve. That's one of the many things I dislike in SC2, you just don't have any time to micro, especially considering the fact that you have to constantly spam new units, even during fights.

On March 10 2014 05:58 Dingodile wrote:
I really hate the discussion where is/was #1. Sounds like to be top5 is epzp and players that are 2nd and downwards dont deserve respect and everything. Pretty much the same in sc2 discussions.

I agree with this.
Personally, I like Moon a lot because of his creative and unconventional approach to the game, but calling him or any other player a clear #1 is kinda silly. There were many great players from different places and time periods during WC3 history and all of them deserve credit.
BoxeR, FanTaSy, Jaedong, Life | White-Ra | Moon || Na'Vi, Wings || ༼ᕤ $◡$ ༽ᕤ MIDAS HIM
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
March 10 2014 15:48 GMT
#660
It seems the SeatStory Cup has given WC3 a little rise in popularity. It would be pretty funny if WC3 were to come back a little bit on the scene, similar to the way BW is coming back with a lot of pros retiring to return to their first game. I know I would enjoy it a lot if we were to get a regular SeatStory Cup.

That'd be a pretty ironic display of how good Blizzard used to be as opposed to now, hehe.
I like words.
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