Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne - Page 187
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Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland3790 Posts
On November 03 2019 20:28 goiflin wrote: I don't like the aesthetic much either, but I'm getting mixed messages here. You said that they just milked people's money from SC:R and left us with an aesthetically shitty product, but then you say you were hoping that they would go for the SC:R route aesthetically? And honestly, if you think there would be a significant infusion of long term newblood from this remaster, you probably were mistaken anyway. Most people will drop it after some months no matter how good it is, because 90% of people who buy the game have no interest in the ladder in the first place, and secondly, of those 10% that do? They won't like facing against veterans of 10+ years experience for very long. Most of the people who might be interested in ladder will fatigue real quick. Especially since we're going to be able to smurf just like before. But I agree, no ladder on release seems like a bad look. They should just delay the thing if they don't have it ready. I understand that most people who buy the game won't be interested in ladder anyway, but really... seems kind of half finished. Then again, SC:R didn't (doesn't?) have 2v2 ladder at release either. Which is also stupid. What I mean is that many people bought SC:R, even some of the old guard came back, played for around 6 to 12 months and then left. Only a handful of people actually stayed around. And that I fear that same is going to happen to WC3:R aestheticaly-wise I would love them to go for the SC:R route, because they literally just REMADE Starcraft in more detail and HD graphics. And this is what I want to see when they are "remaking" aka "reforging" a great old classic. But I guess WoW players buckerinos are more important than oldschool WC3 veterans feelings toward the game. I was expecting that, tbh.. but not on such a scale. This whole WC3:R is a massive disaster imo. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17046 Posts
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cha0
Canada485 Posts
On November 06 2019 02:33 Manit0u wrote: I wonder if no ladder means no matchmaking or no multiplayer at all. FFA was great in WC3 and I think that most people who played it later on during its life actually played the custom maps rather than ladder (DotA, tanks, warships, element TD, uther's challenge, I've sunk countless hours into those). Grubby and Neo have talked with the devs for more detail on this. There will be matchmaking with new MMR, just no ranking system at start. The devs told them that they will be keeping track of this MMR and using it when ranked ladder launches. 4s and FFA are also supposedly going to be launched during beta shortly after Night Elf is added. I am still cautious and a bit pessimistic about the whole situation but today Undead is supposed to launch along with a lot of optimizations and bug fixes for the client so lets see how that goes. Blizzard is running really dry of faith from me but this could rekindle some hope. | ||
Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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cha0
Canada485 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17046 Posts
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Dingodile
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I watched his stream yesterday before UD arrived. Someone in chat asked about coop-commander in wc3 like sc2. That would be amazing. edit: Looks like an UD Problem. UD keeps fps low, ~40fps lower than if you Play orc/human. I think the blight Ground is the reason. low fps only at UD base. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
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Latham
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But then again allegedly they rushed this beta out, because of the number of preorders placed. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15082 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10625 Posts
Very interested to see the thought process behind the blizzard team with some of the directions they took. | ||
TT1
Canada9926 Posts
On November 08 2019 06:38 Mohdoo wrote: Cancelled my Reforged pre-order. Its a complete mess. I don't see any reason to keep my pre-order. No ladder at release, models are basically universally worse, buggy as fuck. I see no reason to play Reforged over netease. BW console tho, thats why i got it :D | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20729 Posts
On November 07 2019 05:24 Latham wrote: When you zoom in on each individual model they look really good, when you look at the whole picture, it does look unpolished. Like having units set to Ultra detail while having terrain, trees and every other part of the decor on lowest... But then again allegedly they rushed this beta out, because of the number of preorders placed. I’m hoping that is the case and they clean everything up. It’s really unlike Blizzard to go into beta this unpolished in a technical sense, can be a double-edged sword doing so as yes it might sate the appetite of some, equally kill the enthusiasm of others by making an alpha playable | ||
Mohdoo
United States15082 Posts
On November 08 2019 07:20 Emnjay808 wrote: These model changes are the stuff you’d expect out of a fan mod community. Very interested to see the thought process behind the blizzard team with some of the directions they took. It's like the entire project was done without Blizzard's art director knowing about it. The style is bad, the execution is bad and the optimization is bad. Did this start as an intern project or something? Bizarre. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
I hope they will make a specific button in options that switches to old graphics and back. | ||
arb
Noobville17915 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15082 Posts
On November 08 2019 13:58 arb wrote: Didnt they outsource the model design to some other company? Yes but my understanding is that outsourcing some model work is fairly standard and they've done it before. I can't imagine they also outsourced design PHILOSOPHY, which I feel is the biggest issue. Reforged graphics look nothing like anything remotely Warcraft. Proportions, everything, its all basically total shit. | ||
JohnDelaney
Ireland73 Posts
Reforged original: colors/lighting look muted. Brightened ("dodged") the light areas on face and tongue. Desaturated and brightened the teeth to make him look more toothy like original WC3 model. Stretched out ("liquified") mouth sideways to add a bit of a grin. Bright yellow "hard light" layer added on eyes. | ||
TT1
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