LMB are the definitely the toughest, they flush you out with grenades while flanking with shotgun rushers. not to mention they can hack ur turrets and seeker mines. but yeah some of the landmarks in dz are broken, nothing spawns at scaffolding collapse or the crashed chopper.

Ogram

Finland8 Posts

March 23 2016 14:17 GMT

#263

On March 23 2016 21:02 bluzi wrote:

You should know what you buy before you buy it , same as Diablo games , there is a big following that likes min/max + grinding .... (me for example) , this is not a CoD game.

Can you give an example of a game that does it better ?

I like minmaxing myself but I need some actual content to go with it, otherwise I'd be happy hammering an =RAND() function in Excel. Borderlands. Diablo. Probably Path of Exile and most of the Korean grindfests. I can't think of a game that'd offer less variety when it comes to content and playing styles. In Borderlands and Diablo, the gear you have or find might have considerable impact on how you play the game. In Division it boils down to how often you need to switch covers and at what range you can effectively start shooting and how you manage your heals/reloads. And I'd love to shoot at something else besides the endless hordes humans. The only positive thing I can say about the enemies is that at least the shotties seem to try to flank you, but that is a very fragile illusion of anything resembling an actual AI and gets shattered the moment the same guy keeps on jumping up and down a ledge while the superbly ineffective JTF soldiers keep whittling at him.

This is my impression based on some 25h+ hours of play, not including the 10 or so hours during beta. And yes, I still had some high hopes after the beta but apparently I had seen all there was to see.

m4ini

4215 Posts

March 23 2016 14:33 GMT

#264

On March 23 2016 23:17 Ogram wrote:

Show nested quote +

Because leveling in Diablo was.. Amazing? Especially on release?

And lol at your Borderlands comment, if you think that weapons have a considerable impact on playstyle, while arguing that it doesn't do the same in Division is again dishonest.

Shooting "something else besides endless hordes of humans", ahm.. Yeah. Play Dead Island then. It's still a Tom Clancy game, like.. What did you expect, honestly? You can't blame the game for being delusional, especially after you admittedly played the beta.

Btw.. As a sidenote, your game-stats are openly available. Might want to consider that before stating 25+ hours, or implying that you have seen the "endgame".

edit: to be clear, no one is arguing that amount of content is rather "meh" at the moment. There's not much of it. Implying that Diablo, Path of Exile etc were better at release(!) is purely dishonest though. And certainly, if you don't like the game, that's fine - nobody cares, i don't like certain well received games either. But playing a game, then buying it and expecting it to be something entirely else (it's a tom clancy style mmo, and it always was) - that's just dumb.

edit2: in terms of content btw, sets (tank, heal, DPS etc) are already announced, and so are new regions, plus raids. Which, i admit, nobody has seen yet, but i don't see why i should distrust Massive yet.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

March 23 2016 15:03 GMT

#265

Depends on the price tag, won't they whore it out knowing Ubisoft?

Faruko

Chile34171 Posts

March 23 2016 15:10 GMT

#266

lmao at saying that the weapons you find in borderlands affected your gameplay style

i could say yes to diablo (and to be fair, it was still the same kind of game you just swaped one or 2 skill/runes), but borderlands ? that game is the definition of bulletsponge

but i would agree with you on the content, it lacks, but lets see how it goes, splatoon had almost no content at release and now its a full fledge game

I may buy the season pass depending on what do they add to the game; im actually hoping for they to go a little more crazy, maybe an alien/zombie invasion

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

March 23 2016 16:00 GMT

#267

i would like to see a proper pvp arena tbh

TheEmulator

28092 Posts

March 23 2016 20:39 GMT

#268

I think to some degree you are obligated to play with people. I'm guessing you could do a challenge level mission alone, but it would be incredibly slow and not that efficient when farming high ends or phoenix credits. I've only done solo in the DZ so far and it can be ok, but some times it gets annoying when a group of four decides to camp the extraction zone you are trying to use. Also running through all the boss areas with a group in the DZ is a lot faster as well.

Faruko

Chile34171 Posts

March 25 2016 15:08 GMT

#269

Can someone tell me exactly what to do in the dark zone ? or what are the stuff avaliable ?

I seem to run around, get levels, kill stuff and get loot (pretty awful loot btw), but nothing "interesting"

is there any place where bosses respawn or something ?

Salazarz

Korea (South)2591 Posts

March 25 2016 15:32 GMT

#270

On March 26 2016 00:08 Faruko wrote:
Can someone tell me exactly what to do in the dark zone ? or what are the stuff avaliable ?

I seem to run around, get levels, kill stuff and get loot (pretty awful loot btw), but nothing "interesting"

is there any place where bosses respawn or something ?

There is a bunch of named NPCs which drop phoenix credits and have better chance of dropping better loot. The 'landmarks' all represent a named NPC's spawn point (purple when its up, grey when dead), but also some named ones have unmarked spawn points.

You can also, uh, kill people.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

March 25 2016 15:55 GMT

#271

not all landmarks spawn a named enemy though. normally my farming route is sports centre, refuelling centre, the subway near the refuelling centre, the central extraction, extract, then repeat

Faruko

Chile34171 Posts

March 25 2016 18:44 GMT

#272

theres a new bullet king

JoeCool

Germany2520 Posts

March 26 2016 10:25 GMT

#273

... What happened to the times where people actually played the game the way it's ment to be played to get better gear instead of searching for exploits whenever they can.

Edit: Just heard his explanation.

Faruko

Chile34171 Posts

March 26 2016 11:14 GMT

#274

There was never a time like that, its just that nowadays when someone finds something its much easier to share.

Theres always been abusing stuff, problem was thst it was way harder to share it to the world

rebuffering

Canada2436 Posts

March 26 2016 12:56 GMT

#275

Man i was having so much fun in this game, until the patch hit, and Dark Zone is pretty much unplayable. People with good gear, have literally nothing to worry about, they show up in DZ01/02, and just rape those of us who have no good gear. For us its frustration and incredibly sketchy in the DZ, but those with the gear, there is no more downside to going rogue, and most of the time there's groups of 4+ rogues roaming together who just steamroll everyone in their path. Luckily i enjoy the PvE and doing dailies n stuff, but i mean cmon, 1/2 the game is pretty much locked for me at this point.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

March 26 2016 22:57 GMT

#276

i'm having a rly annoying problem where my w key gets "stuck" after a while, and i continue to run forwards after letting go. except it's not physically getting stuck, and it only seems to be happening in the game

mansaya

5 Posts

March 27 2016 13:25 GMT

#277

--- Nuked ---

Faruko

Chile34171 Posts

March 27 2016 14:45 GMT

#278

anyone wants to do the challenging mission ?

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

March 28 2016 00:41 GMT

#279

lol anyon wanna do russian consulate abuse

Faruko

Chile34171 Posts

March 28 2016 01:45 GMT

#280

ill do it, gogogogo

add me, pretty sure you havent, farukosaba

welp, ill go to sleep have to work tomorrow, but we should set a time to do this glitch and get weapons