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On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch.
THIS.
People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC.
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Dragon age seems always graphically one generation behind. How do they do that.
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I can't tell if Xbox One conference is muting the game on purpose so we can hear the crowd or they just hired the NASL sound guy and are just attempting to make it seem like it was planned.
Anyway, connecting instantly with Twitch and streaming that fast seems really cool, that's definitely a plus.
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On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC.
Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console?
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On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console?
Tell me where will I find Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem and those typical japanese games on my PC?
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On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console?
fighting games, jrpg, sports games are not all available on pc. as a long time tekken player, longer than starcraft, there is no other way. i have a controller for my pc but the moment i want to play with friends in my house, computer does not suffice. exclusivity and multiplayer is console's forte and not yet replaceable with pc, maybe one day but not yet.
playing with 2+ people off the bat with ease is a good asset and enough value to dedicate a separate machine for it.
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On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console?
There are games that are exclusive to consoles too. Personal favourite of mine is Gears of War, and that series is the main reason I own an Xbox360. Others are Uncharted, Little big planet, killzone and many others. Besides, moving my pc from my desk to my TV all the time is a bit of a hassle.
Oh, and like Jinorazi said, when I have friends over, we fire up the xbox and play split-screen.
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On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC.
Controllers can be plugged into PC's, and the only thing that controllers are better for are fighting games and racing games.
Even so, this is exactly what the console market should (and usually does) take advantage of. The console is a cheaper, more user-friendly gaming experience (including a much easier multiplayer setup, allowing multiple players on one system), and it has plenty of exclusives; Nintendo is the perfect example of this and it's probably why they are the video game company with the highest profits in the world. Their consoles are full of exclusives (as in not available on the PC), they are extremely reliable and easy to use, and they are cheap (relatively). The problem with the XB1 is that the exclusives are very few (and not really worth it), it is very unfriendly to the biggest leg up it has on the PC (multiplayer and social gaming), and that it's ridiculously expensive.
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On June 11 2013 05:45 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Controllers can be plugged into PC's, and the only thing that controllers are better for are fighting games and racing games. Even so, this is exactly what the console market should (and usually does) take advantage of. The console is a cheaper, more user-friendly gaming experience with plenty of exclusives; Nintendo is the perfect example of this and it's probably why they are the video game company with the highest profits in the world. Their consoles are full of exclusives (as in not available on the PC), they are extremely reliable and easy to use, and they are cheap (relatively). The problem with the XB1 is that the exclusives are very few (and not really worth it) and that it's ridiculously expensive.
Controllers are also better for platforming, run and gun titles (ex: Contra), beat em ups etc...
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and controller + m/k is awesome too. i do that playing GTA or any game with aiming/driving.
playing sports games with m/k is torment.
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On June 11 2013 05:42 b0ub0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console? Tell me where will I find Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem and those typical japanese games on my PC?
So you're saying that any value consoles have are in the games which are exclusive for the sole purpose of selling hardware?
Sounds predatory to me.
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On June 11 2013 05:42 b0ub0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console? Tell me where will I find Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem and those typical japanese games on my PC?
Depends what versions i have a htpc with every title you just listed except mgs because i dont like it. Ive got games from nes to playstation 1 on it.
Im not saying there arent exclusives your original argument was about using a controller and it being better then pc controls. I counter by saying you can plug your controllers into your pc, you then try to counter by mentioning exclusives.....lovely logic.
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On June 11 2013 05:50 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:42 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console? Tell me where will I find Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem and those typical japanese games on my PC? So you're saying that any value consoles have are in the games which are exclusive for the sole purpose of selling hardware? Sounds predatory to me.
To turn your logic around, it's equally predatory that blizzard refuses to build console versions of Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft or Starcraft 2 to cater to the people who own a console but only a workstation-grade PC.
Hell, games like Crysis 3 and BF3/4 are basically secret hardware commercials. The amount of people who buy new processors and graphic cards just to be able to max out these games is quite high.
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On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC.
i would agree mostly minus the fact that only some rpgs play better on a console than a computer- some good examples would be baldur's gate, neverwinter nights, dragon age origins (not talking about the sequels) or any fast paced mmo that needs more than like 8 hotkeys and/or being able to control the camera+move + use hotkeys at the same time is much easier on a keyboard than on a controller (i.e most mmos)
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On June 11 2013 05:52 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:42 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console? Tell me where will I find Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem and those typical japanese games on my PC? Depends what versions i have a htpc with every title you just listed except mgs because i dont like it. Ive got games from nes to playstation 1 on it. Im not saying there arent exclusives your original argument was about using a controller and it being better then pc controls. I counter by saying you can plug your controllers into your pc, you then try to counter by mentioning exclusives.....lovely logic.
Is that legitimate copies of the games or from emulators?
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emulation/piracy is a plus side of pc ^_^
i miss the days of ps1 piracy, the swap trick lol
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On June 11 2013 06:03 jinorazi wrote:
emulation/piracy is a plus side of pc ^_^
i miss the days of ps1 piracy, the swap trick lol
i bricked my first ps1 when i was like 13 trying to install the chip to allow me to play pirated ps1 games t.t
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On June 11 2013 05:59 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 05:50 Djzapz wrote:On June 11 2013 05:42 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:37 FromShouri wrote:On June 11 2013 05:24 b0ub0u wrote:On June 11 2013 05:21 maartendq wrote:
The gaming aspect is done better on PC for some genres (mainly RTS and shooters) while other genres are done better on consoles (racing, fighters, RPGs, platformers, third person games in general etc.). My favourite genre is RTS, so naturally I will tend to favour my PC, but there are plenty of games I enjoy more when I can lean back in my couch. THIS. People can stop arguing and accept this fact. This is the reason I own all consoles in existence + a gaming PC. Mmmm can you accept the fact yu can hook up a ps3 or xbox360 controller to a pc and play any "genre thats better on consoles" as well or even better then on the console? Tell me where will I find Metal Gear Solid, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem and those typical japanese games on my PC? So you're saying that any value consoles have are in the games which are exclusive for the sole purpose of selling hardware? Sounds predatory to me. To turn your logic around, it's equally predatory that blizzard refuses to build console versions of Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft or Starcraft 2 to cater to the people who own a console but only a workstation-grade PC. Hell, games like Crysis 3 and BF3/4 are basically secret hardware commercials. The amount of people who buy new processors and graphic cards just to be able to max out these games is quite high.
It's not predatory for Blizzard to make other versions of their games because they have literally no stakes in the sale of consoles. The reason why WoW and Blizzard's RTS's are not necessarily ported onto other devices is because it's not directly worth it for them. In fact, their games run on Mac which is more than most companies can say.
Also RTSes don't do well on consoles.
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I'm actually pretty skeptical about the idea that a JRPG even plays better on consoles--it's at best even because JRPGs tend to not really depend heavily on the control scheme at all.
That and I think Japanese ARPGs like Secret of Mana would play more smoothly with Diablo-like controls than with a controller, but that's just a hunch.
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