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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 10 2013 02:56 GMT
#441
I wanted to add that P4A pools and possibly BlazBlue side tournament will be streamed at http://www.twitch.tv/finestko.

Pools start at 8am PST on Friday, the BB tourney will be on Saturday I believe.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
July 10 2013 02:59 GMT
#442
This is surprising.
NICE180NINTENDO
I'm hyped for melee : D
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
July 10 2013 03:00 GMT
#443
Anyone have a list of unofficial side streams? I only know of like one.

Meanwhile, for those few of you who have missed it, here are the schedules.

+ Show Spoiler [Regular schedule] +
[image loading]
http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2013/jul/09/revised-evolution-2013-tournament-schedule/


+ Show Spoiler [Stream schedule] +
[image loading]
http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2013/jul/09/revised-evolution-2013-stream-schedule/


Stream schedule especially is godlike useful.
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2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
July 10 2013 03:24 GMT
#444
On July 10 2013 12:00 Aylear wrote:
Anyone have a list of unofficial side streams? I only know of like one.


Shoryuken will have all the side streams listed and embedded in their event post for EVO.


Can't believe it took under four hours to get Nintendo's decision reversed.
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
Lemstar
Profile Joined October 2010
United States387 Posts
July 10 2013 04:11 GMT
#445
On July 10 2013 12:00 Aylear wrote:
Anyone have a list of unofficial side streams? I only know of like one.


Of the ones in the viewer's guide:

Persona 4 Arena - FinestKO
TTT2 - IEBattleGrounds2
SFxT - Karastorm
Super Turbo - IEBattleGrounds

Jyosua should be streaming the BlazBlue and Guilty Gear side tournaments. IEBattleGrounds2 is listed as running Soul Calibur 5 on Saturday.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
July 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#446
VGBootCamp just went live as a Melee overflow channel. I can't hold all this Melee!
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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
July 16 2013 07:22 GMT
#447
Was fun seeing everyone at evo :> 3MC is alive wtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtf
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
July 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#448
On July 16 2013 16:22 Trumpet wrote:
Was fun seeing everyone at evo :> 3MC is alive wtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtf

shh don't tell

was great meeting pachi and trumpet and not missing KoF top 32 to play Marvel ;(
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
July 17 2013 00:26 GMT
#449
On July 17 2013 08:45 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 16:22 Trumpet wrote:
Was fun seeing everyone at evo :> 3MC is alive wtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtf

shh don't tell

was great meeting pachi and trumpet and not missing KoF top 32 to play Marvel ;(


:[ :[ :[ Entered marvel to make people sad via charging star, but thanks to late pools I bodied myself the most.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
July 30 2013 03:39 GMT
#450
ChrisG just tweeted:

Christopher Gonzalez ‏@NYChrisG 2m

LOl at the only way to stop me is by banning me now. Good stuff guys.

--

Is this about the pot splitting thing with Flocker at VxG? And is he being a bit of a twat?
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
July 30 2013 07:13 GMT
#451
On July 30 2013 12:39 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
ChrisG just tweeted:

Christopher Gonzalez ‏@NYChrisG 2m

LOl at the only way to stop me is by banning me now. Good stuff guys.

--

Is this about the pot splitting thing with Flocker at VxG? And is he being a bit of a twat?


Mashfest posted something about banning him from tournaments for staged grand finals at vxg
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 30 2013 07:21 GMT
#452
Personally, I think it's good that they take actions against match-fixing and such, because it only hurts the scene no matter how you look at it
EZ4ENCE
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2664 Posts
July 30 2013 08:27 GMT
#453
Is anyone else excited about the release of Divekick? :D
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:02:31
July 30 2013 09:53 GMT
#454
On July 30 2013 16:21 WindWolf wrote:
Personally, I think it's good that they take actions against match-fixing and such, because it only hurts the scene no matter how you look at it


I'm not glad, I think it's incredibly stupid.

First of all, it is not "match fixing", it is pot splitting. Two players agree to a pot split and the game no longer has any relevance. Pot splitting is legal in fighting game tournaments. The problem is, you agree to a pot split, but the TO still wants you to play the finals because of stream viewership. Now what? You can't force yourself to give a shit, so you just pick random teams and try to be entertaining, because otherwise you'll just be playing your main team half-assed, which IMO is even worse.

For what it's worth, I feel the exact same way about SC2. A lot of the rules they have in place are simply asinine, forcing players to play "real games" when the result doesn't matter to them, and crying match fix if they don't play very well.

The way splits/concessions should be handled, in every game, is to allow the agreement to take place (because you legally cannot stop it anyhow), but force the players to be upfront about it, and do not play out their match. Evo uses this rule and it should be adopted everywhere. Alternately, the players could start splitting 40/40 and playing for the last 20%, which is how it's sometimes handled in poker. That would be the best overall solution for the fans and players, but it's impossible to enforce, and still doesn't account for situations where one player wants to throw the match to allow their teammate to advance.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 30 2013 10:10 GMT
#455
IMO, every match should be played like it mattered no matter what format you use. And personally, I don't like pot-splitting

For example, if (emphasis on if) Fnatic reaches the final of TI3, I want them to give +9000% to win the final and I want them to win it honestly, rather than pot-splitting and getting 380k USD more than they would get by loosing in the final. Same principle applies to every game that I follow to some extent .
EZ4ENCE
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
July 30 2013 10:16 GMT
#456
On July 30 2013 18:53 Cel.erity wrote:
Two players agree to a pot split and the game no longer has any relevance.


That must be one of the ugliest sentences I have ever read on any forum, ever.
knuckle
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 30 2013 10:30 GMT
#457
On July 30 2013 19:16 HeatEXTEND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:53 Cel.erity wrote:
Two players agree to a pot split and the game no longer has any relevance.


That must be one of the ugliest sentences I have ever read on any forum, ever.


Howso? It was a perfectly clear English sentence. Do you always make a completely worthless post on TL whenever you want to debate whether somebody's sentence deserves a comma or not?

@WindWolf: the problem is, it's not up to you to decide whether the players should care or not, it's up to the players. There is an argument against pot splitting when the players are salaried by the league, such as professional sports, because the league is paying them to put on a show for the fans. However, in Esports, this doesn't exist. Players play for prize money provided by tournaments. They are free to do whatever is in their best interests, and nobody (aside from maybe their team) can or should be allowed to force them to play when they don't want to.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 30 2013 10:31 GMT
#458
On July 30 2013 18:53 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 16:21 WindWolf wrote:
Personally, I think it's good that they take actions against match-fixing and such, because it only hurts the scene no matter how you look at it


I'm not glad, I think it's incredibly stupid.

First of all, it is not "match fixing", it is pot splitting. Two players agree to a pot split and the game no longer has any relevance. Pot splitting is legal in fighting game tournaments. The problem is, you agree to a pot split, but the TO still wants you to play the finals because of stream viewership. Now what?


DQ the guys and have people play the tournaments who actually want to win them.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 30 2013 10:51 GMT
#459
On July 30 2013 19:31 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:53 Cel.erity wrote:
On July 30 2013 16:21 WindWolf wrote:
Personally, I think it's good that they take actions against match-fixing and such, because it only hurts the scene no matter how you look at it


I'm not glad, I think it's incredibly stupid.

First of all, it is not "match fixing", it is pot splitting. Two players agree to a pot split and the game no longer has any relevance. Pot splitting is legal in fighting game tournaments. The problem is, you agree to a pot split, but the TO still wants you to play the finals because of stream viewership. Now what?


DQ the guys and have people play the tournaments who actually want to win them.


Couldn't agree more with this. If you won't give it all when entering a tournaments, why enter in the first place.
EZ4ENCE
Rijot
Profile Joined July 2013
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:59:05
July 30 2013 10:58 GMT
#460
On July 30 2013 19:51 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 19:31 FliedLice wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:53 Cel.erity wrote:
On July 30 2013 16:21 WindWolf wrote:
Personally, I think it's good that they take actions against match-fixing and such, because it only hurts the scene no matter how you look at it


I'm not glad, I think it's incredibly stupid.

First of all, it is not "match fixing", it is pot splitting. Two players agree to a pot split and the game no longer has any relevance. Pot splitting is legal in fighting game tournaments. The problem is, you agree to a pot split, but the TO still wants you to play the finals because of stream viewership. Now what?


DQ the guys and have people play the tournaments who actually want to win them.


Couldn't agree more with this. If you won't give it all when entering a tournaments, why enter in the first place.

For these guys? To earn money. I figure they feel it's better with a guaranteed decent ammount of money over all or nothing that comes from playing out the final
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