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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 03:54:29
October 13 2013 03:53 GMT
#701
On October 13 2013 12:45 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 12:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
How is the difficulty level for anyone thats deep in? Just doing the intro stuff now.

I've been trying to do the super training stuff to max EVs on starter before I do anything, but holy fuck the level 3 games are so hard... I've tried the sp. attack one 6 times and still havent managed to beat it T_T

why minigames so impossible

The difficulty is related to how hard you've trained the Pokemon already. The closer you are to 510 EVs, the less points you lose on getting hit, and the more points you get from hitting the targets.

I think you also move faster, charge up faster, and the targeting gets more forgiving/your shots move faster, but I'm not 100% sure about those.

Basically if you try the level 3 minigames having beaten the previous ones on the first try, they will be hard. Once you're halfway trained, they become pretty straightforward, and as you approach 510 EVs they're basically a snooze-fest (as in, when you're past ~3/4 trained, you can beat most of them without even bothering to dodge the shots and just shooting the targets).
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 13 2013 03:54 GMT
#702
On October 13 2013 12:53 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 12:45 Kiett wrote:
On October 13 2013 12:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
How is the difficulty level for anyone thats deep in? Just doing the intro stuff now.

I've been trying to do the super training stuff to max EVs on starter before I do anything, but holy fuck the level 3 games are so hard... I've tried the sp. attack one 6 times and still havent managed to beat it T_T

why minigames so impossible

The difficulty is related to how hard you've trained the Pokemon already. The closer you are to 510 EVs, the less points you lose on getting hit, and the more points you get from hitting the targets.

I think you also move faster, charge up faster, and the targeting gets more forgiving/your shots move faster, but I'm not 100% sure about those.

Basically if you try the level 3 minigames having beaten the previous ones on the first try, they will be hard. Once you're halfway trained, they become pretty straightforward, and as you approach 510 EVs they're basically a snooze-fest.

Ohh I see. So maybe I should stick to the level 2 ones for a while?
Writer:o
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#703
That's what I did.

Also, hitting the grey punching bag (as in, without having selected a special bag from training) gets you random drops. One of those drops is the Reset Bag, which is a FULL EV RESET. I'm going to be saving those up (and it's a shame you can only have 12 bags at a time).
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 04:27:55
October 13 2013 04:27 GMT
#704
How are the online systems like battle and trade? Is there a skill rating for online battles?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 04:31:59
October 13 2013 04:31 GMT
#705
I think being able to EV train from the word go is awesome.

So cool imo.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 13 2013 04:33 GMT
#706
On October 13 2013 12:55 TheYango wrote:
That's what I did.

Also, hitting the grey punching bag (as in, without having selected a special bag from training) gets you random drops. One of those drops is the Reset Bag, which is a FULL EV RESET. I'm going to be saving those up (and it's a shame you can only have 12 bags at a time).


Nice. This makes it a lot more flexible for different builds on one pokemon, as opposed to training another one again.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 13 2013 04:43 GMT
#707
On October 13 2013 12:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
How is the difficulty level for anyone thats deep in? Just doing the intro stuff now.


I've been refreshingly under leveled, though it has a bit to do with me having a full team of six Pokemon since just after the first gym.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
yandere991
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia394 Posts
October 13 2013 04:47 GMT
#708
Wonder how much data it would of taken to flesh out every pokemons voices. So far only Pikachu has its anime voice.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 06:05:16
October 13 2013 05:03 GMT
#709
Lol. Finally got myself a EV Reset bag -
On that note, I finished up the entirety of the training regiments - if you're curious about all the super secret training sessions, look in spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +

Lvl 1 Secret Training

1. The two fully evolved forms of the XY Fossil Pokemon - getting record times nets you stardust
2. Venasaur- getting record times nets you stardus, 2:30+ time increases chance to get Leaf Stone
3. Charizard- getting record times nets you stardust, 2:30+ time increases chance to get Fire Stone
4. Blastoise - getting record times nets you stardust, 2:30+ time increases chance to get Water Stone
5. Stunfisk, evasive/hard to hit training - getting record times nets you stardust and Hard Stone
6. Aegislash - - getting record times nets you stardust

Lvl 2 Secret Training
1. "An Opening of Lightning-Quick Attacks" - Roserade; getting record times nets you stardus, 2:30+ time increases chance to get Shiny stone
2. "Those Long Shots are no Long Shot" - Gallede; getting record times nets you stardust, 2:30+ time increases chance to get Dawn Stone
3. "Scatterbug Lugs Back!" - Scatterbug's three stage evolution.
4. "A Barrage of Bitbots!" - Probopass; Hard Stone in record time
5. "Drag down Hydreigon" - Deino's three stage evolution. Resets points to 0 if you're hit even once.
6. "The Battle for the Best: Version X/Y" - Aron's three stage evolution with Mega Aggron at the end. I got stardust, leaf stone, hard rock so far in record time.

Finishing both tiers of secret training and getting all 30 record time medals gets you a little laurel of stars underneath your "Super Trained Pokemon" icon. Every time you beat another training session (after resetting or not) you get a "As expected of a super trained Pokemon" dialogue.
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
October 13 2013 10:58 GMT
#710
I bought a 2DS and Pokemon Y. This is the first time I've bought a handheld console since the GameBoy Color. And it's been a while since I've played Pokemon. Exciting.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 11:18:18
October 13 2013 11:16 GMT
#711
Hey guys, there's already a mystery gift available. I just got a Torchic with its hidden ability (Speed Boost), and a mega stone. It says on Serebii that it will go on until January 15, so don't worry if you don't have the games yet.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 12:32:48
October 13 2013 12:30 GMT
#712
The Torchic distribution has been known for a long time. Remember that you can reset and a get new one until you get a preferred Nature (unless you save after you got one).

Mega Aggron stats: 70/140/230/60/80/50, Pure-Steel, has Filter which reduces damage from SE-moves by 25 %. Hello big, fat wall.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 12:36:28
October 13 2013 12:35 GMT
#713
Some people mentioned that there's a "wondertrade" thing, where you trade for a random pokemon. Why hasn't this been flooded with crap and common pokemon, so that people receive crap and common pokemon from it?

It sounds exactly like the market for lemons.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
October 13 2013 12:42 GMT
#714
On October 13 2013 21:35 paralleluniverse wrote:
Some people mentioned that there's a "wondertrade" thing, where you trade for a random pokemon. Why hasn't this been flooded with crap and common pokemon, so that people receive crap and common pokemon from it?

It sounds exactly like the market for lemons.


Well, give Reddit a month and it's an excellent place for obtaining bidoof's. Got today a Kelceon for my bidoof which was cool aside the fact that the japanese guy called his Kelceon "Vag!nator"
Pokemon Master
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 13 2013 13:49 GMT
#715
On October 13 2013 21:30 XaCez wrote:
The Torchic distribution has been known for a long time. Remember that you can reset and a get new one until you get a preferred Nature (unless you save after you got one).

Mega Aggron stats: 70/140/230/60/80/50, Pure-Steel, has Filter which reduces damage from SE-moves by 25 %. Hello big, fat wall.

So it's kinda like Solid Rock?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
October 13 2013 13:54 GMT
#716
On October 13 2013 22:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 21:30 XaCez wrote:
The Torchic distribution has been known for a long time. Remember that you can reset and a get new one until you get a preferred Nature (unless you save after you got one).

Mega Aggron stats: 70/140/230/60/80/50, Pure-Steel, has Filter which reduces damage from SE-moves by 25 %. Hello big, fat wall.

So it's kinda like Solid Rock?

It's identical. Filer was previously only available to Mime Jr./Mr. Mime, which is why most people haven't heard of it.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 13 2013 14:25 GMT
#717
On October 13 2013 22:54 XaCez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 22:49 arb wrote:
On October 13 2013 21:30 XaCez wrote:
The Torchic distribution has been known for a long time. Remember that you can reset and a get new one until you get a preferred Nature (unless you save after you got one).

Mega Aggron stats: 70/140/230/60/80/50, Pure-Steel, has Filter which reduces damage from SE-moves by 25 %. Hello big, fat wall.

So it's kinda like Solid Rock?

It's identical. Filer was previously only available to Mime Jr./Mr. Mime, which is why most people haven't heard of it.

They tend to put strong abilities on pokemon that can't use them / weak pokemon to test the abilities out.

Eg. Sableeye had no weaknesses but had poor base stats.
Shroomish Paras line has spore but poor base stats.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
October 13 2013 15:05 GMT
#718
On October 13 2013 23:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 22:54 XaCez wrote:
On October 13 2013 22:49 arb wrote:
On October 13 2013 21:30 XaCez wrote:
The Torchic distribution has been known for a long time. Remember that you can reset and a get new one until you get a preferred Nature (unless you save after you got one).

Mega Aggron stats: 70/140/230/60/80/50, Pure-Steel, has Filter which reduces damage from SE-moves by 25 %. Hello big, fat wall.

So it's kinda like Solid Rock?

It's identical. Filer was previously only available to Mime Jr./Mr. Mime, which is why most people haven't heard of it.

They tend to put strong abilities on pokemon that can't use them / weak pokemon to test the abilities out.

Eg. Sableeye had no weaknesses but had poor base stats.
Shroomish Paras line has spore but poor base stats.


That's a thing; Smogon had a nice article detailing this: "The Best Abilities (On the Worst Pokemons)"
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
October 13 2013 15:51 GMT
#719
Overall I feel like there isn't a lot of power creep this generation; although that might because of the nerfs to various moves, weather, Steel and the introduction of Fairy.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 13 2013 19:12 GMT
#720
I don't really understand the new exp share, why would I want everyone to get exp when im just trying to train 1 weak person 0o?
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