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MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
April 07 2015 21:31 GMT
#1181
On April 08 2015 02:05 TheYango wrote:
D:OS actually had a larger budget than that IIRC, it's just that 3+ million came out of Larian's own pocket because they weren't financially screwed when they started the project like Obsidian was.

Yeah, according to wikipedia "the game's budget was around €4 million".

On April 08 2015 03:15 Yurie wrote:
Only downside is too little min/max due to them trying to balance the classes, items and stats instead of making them overpowered in different ways.

For me this is an upside rather than downside. Never liked overpowered or abusable mechanics/elements.
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Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
April 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#1182
On April 08 2015 05:30 Immersion_ wrote:
I just failed a PoTD Trial of Iron run in the first dungeon. I deactivated the flame traps but the path through is still only one tile wide. I just clicked the other side and thought yeah, they'll probably make it over. They didn't. I guess you need a better attitude for that mode .

Also to the above, this is the successor to Baldur's Gate for me, which is to this day my favourite game ever, and that's not a dig at the many other - although not enough - very good RPGs since (DA:O, DO:S hell even Morrowind to name a few).


Planescape: Torment is curiously absent from your list... my all-time favorite for sure. If you haven't played it... you need to
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
April 07 2015 23:36 GMT
#1183
On April 08 2015 05:30 Immersion_ wrote:
I just failed a PoTD Trial of Iron run in the first dungeon. I deactivated the flame traps but the path through is still only one tile wide. I just clicked the other side and thought yeah, they'll probably make it over. They didn't. I guess you need a better attitude for that mode .

Also to the above, this is the successor to Baldur's Gate for me, which is to this day my favourite game ever, and that's not a dig at the many other - although not enough - very good RPGs since (Morrowind).


yeah

no
knuckle
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
April 08 2015 00:08 GMT
#1184
On April 08 2015 06:31 MyrMindservant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 03:15 Yurie wrote:
Only downside is too little min/max due to them trying to balance the classes, items and stats instead of making them overpowered in different ways.

For me this is an upside rather than downside. Never liked overpowered or abusable mechanics/elements.
Definitely agree with this. I hate having to research a game before I can play it, or figuring out midway that one stat is godlike so my playthrough is screwed.

Sure, my team wasn't really good in PoE, but it got me through Hard, and I had fun figuring it out on my own.

GOTY 2015 so far. Best RPG I've played in ages, and I never really got into BG/Icewind Dale. But this one is way ahead of D:OS, DA, Wasteland 2, Shadowrun, or all the others I tried but quickly forgot about.
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
April 08 2015 08:38 GMT
#1185
Quick help with the Blade of the endless paths:

+ Show Spoiler +
I got all the pieces and from what I understood the forge guy in the crucible knights would be able to assemble them (maybe I got it wrong ?), but the city is not accessible now, and I'm wondering if there is another guy or if he is just gonna be accessible again later. Anyway, I just wanna know where and when to make the blade, spoiler away if necessary.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
April 08 2015 08:41 GMT
#1186
On April 08 2015 17:38 Souone wrote:
Quick help with the Blade of the endless paths:

+ Show Spoiler +
I got all the pieces and from what I understood the forge guy in the crucible knights would be able to assemble them (maybe I got it wrong ?), but the city is not accessible now, and I'm wondering if there is another guy or if he is just gonna be accessible again later. Anyway, I just wanna know where and when to make the blade, spoiler away if necessary.


+ Show Spoiler +
You got the right guy, but after the incidents in the city you can't come back there. Too soon. Wander about in the general east direction. At one point you should realize/learn you can go back to the city, then you can reforge the blade.


In short: don't worry, you have still plenty of time and opportunities to make it.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 10:15:25
April 08 2015 10:14 GMT
#1187
On April 08 2015 09:08 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 06:31 MyrMindservant wrote:
On April 08 2015 03:15 Yurie wrote:
Only downside is too little min/max due to them trying to balance the classes, items and stats instead of making them overpowered in different ways.

For me this is an upside rather than downside. Never liked overpowered or abusable mechanics/elements.
Definitely agree with this. I hate having to research a game before I can play it, or figuring out midway that one stat is godlike so my playthrough is screwed.

Sure, my team wasn't really good in PoE, but it got me through Hard, and I had fun figuring it out on my own.

GOTY 2015 so far. Best RPG I've played in ages, and I never really got into BG/Icewind Dale. But this one is way ahead of D:OS, DA, Wasteland 2, Shadowrun, or all the others I tried but quickly forgot about.


If you are really enjoying pillars this much you should give Baldurs gate another shot, at least baldurs gate 2. I enjoy both (PoE & BGII) but BGII is still a better game, the world is way bigger, more interesting class mechanics and a better story, most importantly, one of the best video game villains ever written imho.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4427 Posts
April 08 2015 10:40 GMT
#1188
On April 08 2015 17:38 Souone wrote:
Quick help with the Blade of the endless paths:

+ Show Spoiler +
I got all the pieces and from what I understood the forge guy in the crucible knights would be able to assemble them (maybe I got it wrong ?), but the city is not accessible now, and I'm wondering if there is another guy or if he is just gonna be accessible again later. Anyway, I just wanna know where and when to make the blade, spoiler away if necessary.

Might be too technical this question but
+ Show Spoiler +
If siding with the dozens against the knights how low can your reputation with the knights get and the guy will still create the sword?

Doesn't affect me this playthough just wondering for another time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
April 08 2015 12:11 GMT
#1189
On April 08 2015 07:29 Craze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 05:30 Immersion_ wrote:
I just failed a PoTD Trial of Iron run in the first dungeon. I deactivated the flame traps but the path through is still only one tile wide. I just clicked the other side and thought yeah, they'll probably make it over. They didn't. I guess you need a better attitude for that mode .

Also to the above, this is the successor to Baldur's Gate for me, which is to this day my favourite game ever, and that's not a dig at the many other - although not enough - very good RPGs since (DA:O, DO:S hell even Morrowind to name a few).


Planescape: Torment is curiously absent from your list... my all-time favorite for sure. If you haven't played it... you need to


Technically is PST 'since' Baldurs gate? :p. Although no, I haven't tried it. I'd like to but I'm worried the combat would be too crap, and I see combat as a big feature. Same reason I never got through nwn 2 interface and engine is so clunky. I admit I have issues completing games though, tend to play the first half like 20 times and never complete it.

Also don't knock morrowind it was a severely flawed gem but a gem all the same imo or at least it was when I was 15/16! Instead of building on it they went in a direction not to my taste.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 08 2015 12:33 GMT
#1190
On April 08 2015 21:11 Immersion_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 07:29 Craze wrote:
On April 08 2015 05:30 Immersion_ wrote:
I just failed a PoTD Trial of Iron run in the first dungeon. I deactivated the flame traps but the path through is still only one tile wide. I just clicked the other side and thought yeah, they'll probably make it over. They didn't. I guess you need a better attitude for that mode .

Also to the above, this is the successor to Baldur's Gate for me, which is to this day my favourite game ever, and that's not a dig at the many other - although not enough - very good RPGs since (DA:O, DO:S hell even Morrowind to name a few).


Planescape: Torment is curiously absent from your list... my all-time favorite for sure. If you haven't played it... you need to


Technically is PST 'since' Baldurs gate? :p. Although no, I haven't tried it. I'd like to but I'm worried the combat would be too crap, and I see combat as a big feature. Same reason I never got through nwn 2 interface and engine is so clunky. I admit I have issues completing games though, tend to play the first half like 20 times and never complete it.

Also don't knock morrowind it was a severely flawed gem but a gem all the same imo or at least it was when I was 15/16! Instead of building on it they went in a direction not to my taste.

In PS:T combat is kind of minor annoyance, not too frequent and rather easy so you click few times and get back to talking which is majority of the game.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
April 08 2015 17:13 GMT
#1191
The spells in PS:T are awesome though, at least the endgame ones.

They do get quite old fast, but still. Also, funny thing about PS:T was that the majority of items were some weird trinkets. I think there's like 0 swords in the game as well.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#1192
Can confirm, Planescape Torment is awesome. I probably prefered it over BG1 and BG2 although I played it much, much later (in fact, like 2 years ago). Sadly, I couldn't experience the last 10 minutes on my own because I had a graphics bug which I didn't manage to fix.

However, the game is hard to get into, some people will find it too obscure. But after the first few hours it gets more and more interesting.

I haven't played Pillars of Eternity yet, but I will probably do so at one point. As for Divinity:Original Sin, it wasn't that fun for me.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 08 2015 17:35 GMT
#1193
The other thing about PS:T is the heavy influence TNO's mental ability scores play on the availability of gameplay/story options, far more so than in pretty much any other D&D/Infinity Engine game. If you really wanted to explore the game to it's true depth, you kind of had to make a gimped character from a combat perspective in order to push all your mental ability scores as high as possible.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22452 Posts
April 08 2015 18:34 GMT
#1194
On April 09 2015 02:35 TheYango wrote:
The other thing about PS:T is the heavy influence TNO's mental ability scores play on the availability of gameplay/story options, far more so than in pretty much any other D&D/Infinity Engine game. If you really wanted to explore the game to it's true depth, you kind of had to make a gimped character from a combat perspective in order to push all your mental ability scores as high as possible.

yeah the "best" ending actually requires very high wis/int/cha and with 'wrong' conversation options you cant even get your stats high enough.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 08 2015 19:13 GMT
#1195
http://www.shacknews.com/article/89004/obsidian-ceo-discusses-pillars-of-eternity-its-early-success-and-its-first-expansion
Obsidian plan 2 part expansion, kickstarter supporters will get earlier both parts.
Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
April 08 2015 19:51 GMT
#1196
Anyone has some advice on what would be the most enjoyable difficulty for solo play without abusing traps or weapon swapping? I'm just looking for a challenge that would work on a roleplay style character.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22452 Posts
April 08 2015 19:55 GMT
#1197
On April 09 2015 04:51 Tilorn91 wrote:
Anyone has some advice on what would be the most enjoyable difficulty for solo play without abusing traps or weapon swapping? I'm just looking for a challenge that would work on a roleplay style character.

Should be fine on Hard
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
April 08 2015 20:24 GMT
#1198
Okay so I picked up Planescape Torment because some guys here recommended it and the dialogue is really great. Does take a while to get used to the interface though
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 21:10:30
April 08 2015 21:08 GMT
#1199
Planescape is great, and the spiritual sequel is coming out this year in Torment: Tides of Numenera

Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
April 08 2015 21:27 GMT
#1200
I'll give PST a go, I mean I like the stories and all but tactical combat is as if not more important for me overall so be interesting to see how I like it.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
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