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Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 11 2013 21:28 GMT
#141
There is a mod for the demo that can unlock them, with the same constraints as the first 4 have (no savegame, time limit, etc.).

Doubt I should post it here though.
"Yeah buddy"
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 12 2013 06:36 GMT
#142
Started playing the demo yesterday evening as Ottomans and surprised myself by actually getting through the whole time limit and "beating" the demo at rank 1. I've "played" paradox games since EU2, and what I mean is that I've planned to play them but only actively for a few hours... loved the concept, never really learned to play them well enough to be comfortable. I feel like EU4 just hits the spot, it finally makes sense to me. It feels from my perspective like they have removed a lot of the ambigious stuff where I couldn't properly measure the pro's and con's, without removing options.

Going to pre-purchase it this afternoon, can't wait for release. For anyone out there who is on the fence on trying a paradox game, this is the time to try and this is the game to go for.
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
August 12 2013 10:54 GMT
#143
Played demo alot and Im very impressed. Key features (Monarch Points, Trade) are easy to understand but with deep possibilities, modifieres are visible most of the time and while there are still complex and random based things, you can just let them flow while learning.

Want tech? Invest. Want Culture? Invest. Want Idea? Invest. Want trade? Send Merchant, receive Bonus. You have close, achieveable goals which anyone can get and fiddle around with for starters.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 12 2013 11:09 GMT
#144
On August 12 2013 19:54 mTwRINE wrote:
Played demo alot and Im very impressed. Key features (Monarch Points, Trade) are easy to understand but with deep possibilities, modifieres are visible most of the time and while there are still complex and random based things, you can just let them flow while learning.

Want tech? Invest. Want Culture? Invest. Want Idea? Invest. Want trade? Send Merchant, receive Bonus. You have close, achieveable goals which anyone can get and fiddle around with for starters.

One of the big things I took away from my demo play was that the randomness has actually been severely limited, at least in the long term... The stuff that happens under siege is still random for example, but it's random in a fairly predictable way. Another huge deal is diplo-annexation. If I don't remember incorrectly, it used to be that you had to have a vassal with insanely good relations, then it was just a dicethrow every time you asked for diplo-annexation... the vast majority of the time they declined and you had to rebuild the relation and try again. Now, it's still "costly" since you lose a diplomat for many years, but it's at least guaranteed if you want it, which puts you in control of your strategy. Awesome improvement.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 12 2013 11:42 GMT
#145
So my Diplomacy page as Portugal says I have a Conquest CB on Morocco. When I try to declare war, it says I have no valid CB.

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Is this some kind of a demo bug or am I missing something obvious?
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
August 12 2013 12:11 GMT
#146
Anyone want to make a EU4 TL group? I can go ahead and set everything up on steam and request us a sub-channel in the TL teamspeak. Would really like to get a community going so we can have multilayer games.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 12 2013 13:22 GMT
#147
On August 12 2013 06:28 Ramong wrote:
There is a mod for the demo that can unlock them, with the same constraints as the first 4 have (no savegame, time limit, etc.).

Doubt I should post it here though.


PM me it please. Googling didn't help.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 13:41:33
August 12 2013 13:36 GMT
#148
You can find it on reddit. And that CB issues definitely looks like a bug.
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Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
August 12 2013 15:42 GMT
#149
TOMORROW! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
August 12 2013 16:29 GMT
#150
Just played the demo and I must say that it finally feels like they might have nailed it. I hate to pre-order stuff and have never done it before but I guess there is a first time for everything .
I'm a mother******* lyrical wordsmith, mother******* genius
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 17:38:05
August 12 2013 16:47 GMT
#151
Very convinced by the demo. Looks great.

Love the trade remake, was terribly boring to manage merchants in EU3. Also love the auto diplomatic improve from diplomats. Looks like a lot of stuff were smoothed without (seemingly) lose the depth of EU3, I like that.
Really the fact that they removed the system of "spending" agents and instead opted for a fix amount that perform a task until relocated, will just make the game a lot better for me.

Too bad tomorrow I have to go to the hospital for an exam
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 18:37:42
August 12 2013 18:37 GMT
#152
On August 12 2013 21:11 bK- wrote:
Anyone want to make a EU4 TL group? I can go ahead and set everything up on steam and request us a sub-channel in the TL teamspeak. Would really like to get a community going so we can have multilayer games.

Would love to play multiplayer with some TL people.

We had quite a few games going in EU3 a couple of years back, was fun !
Though knowing Paradox, MP will be bugged for a month...
"Yeah buddy"
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 12 2013 18:44 GMT
#153
I am in for multiplayer.

I shall lead Prussia to glory :D
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 12 2013 18:52 GMT
#154
So close!

Should I started my first game as England or Castille?
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
August 12 2013 19:20 GMT
#155
I'd also be up for some multiplayer games. And since they're using Steam for networking it should actually work.

On August 13 2013 03:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So close!

Should I started my first game as England or Castille?

I'd go with England myself, but really they're both quite similar being colonial powers that are right next to France and form geographical unions. I think my first game is going to be north German country like Brandenburg.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 19:58:02
August 12 2013 19:49 GMT
#156
Has anyone played enough Austria in the demo to know if the HRE unlawful territory mechanics are the same as they were in EU3?

It was pretty impossible to expand as a HRE member into the HRE if you didn't have cores because the penalty was so harsh.

You had to either claim throne expand or get lucky missions with cores.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 22:02:03
August 12 2013 21:10 GMT
#157
Damn, small nations seem straight up impossible in 4. If a big blob wants you, there's like no way to keep them placated with gifts and military access deals. No Ireland or Montenegro empires this time around.

Also, where did culture go?

Edit: AI seems very problematic as well. In my current game, Spain has a 22 size stack stuck in Cornwall since the war vs England that happened ages ago while Austria is walking all over them. -_-
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
August 12 2013 21:35 GMT
#158
TL group up? :D Would join.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 12 2013 22:09 GMT
#159
As a newbie EU player, I would love some advice from more experienced players. Tried my hand at Austria in the demo, felt like it was going great until France decided to do some reconquesting and I couldn't do shit, their armies wiped me out immediately and I had to give them a very favorable peace treaty.

How does one best prepare for something like that? Is it possible to get a warning when a country that can kick your ass gets a CB on you, is it enough to try to improve relations, other ways to deter them?

As for HRE, what's the best way to get people voting yes on your reformations? I never actually got to 50%, but I was very close and yet the majority of princes would have voted no. I know you can check why they would vote no, but I found it unclear how to effectively change their mind, one obviously doesn't have enough diplomats to keep improving relations with every darn prince in the HRE, and relations seem to have quite a minor impact on their voting.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 23:07:15
August 12 2013 23:06 GMT
#160
On August 13 2013 07:09 Tobberoth wrote:
How does one best prepare for something like that? Is it possible to get a warning when a country that can kick your ass gets a CB on you, is it enough to try to improve relations, other ways to deter them?


You do get a warning when the CB is created, but France might be having a CB from the very start of the game because of Sundgau (that little piece of land just next to them). You can see it in their diplomacy options.

You usually need to deal with the political situation proactively instead of reactively. With or without an immediate CB or war interest on you, France is always going to be your natural rival for the continental superpower, whereas for example England is not going to bother you in centuries to come. Getting in on the England/Portugal block will keep France in check. If they enter a war with either side, the other can just backstab them and they can't withstand the war on two fronts against two major powers.
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