EPTWhat affects trade protect range? My range just increased to 300 but I still can't protect Genoa as England.
For the techs, should I rush the 3rd idea in exploration or rush diplo 7?
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
What affects trade protect range? My range just increased to 300 but I still can't protect Genoa as England. For the techs, should I rush the 3rd idea in exploration or rush diplo 7? | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
How should set up my trade nodes? typically you want to protect nodes that you have trade power in AND that flow towards your home node. So in your case that means you want a merchant in North Sea forwarding to London (because you control Scotland so you have a lot of trade power in North Sea, and North Sea can either flow to London or Lubeck, you need a merchant there or else it will most likely go to Lubeck). Later on when you have colonial nations you either want to have a merchant in Western Europe, or if you prefer to only colonize Canada and North America, you can eventually set up Chespeake -> St. Lawrence -> North Sea -> London. Western Europe is a heavily competed node so the latter option might be attractive. Do I need a merchant in london to collect? You always auto-collect from your capital node, in your case that is London. If you put a merchant there you will collect 10% more, but often the merchant is better used elsewhere. Where should assign my light ships? London, North Sea, when you have colonies, either Western Europe or St. Lawrence depending on where you send your merchant to forward from. London sometimes needs to be protected from Burgundy / Netherlands as they will often send light ships to London and siphon trade from London->Antwerp What affects trade protect range? My range just increased to 300 but I still can't protect Genoa as England. no point protecting Genoa. You won't have much, if any trade power there. If you want, you can send a merchant to Bordeaux and protect there to steal trade from the French. For the techs, should I rush the 3rd idea in exploration or rush diplo 7? I'd say go for 3rd idea and then diplo 7 if its insufficient to reach Greenland. You'll have a good headstart in colonizing North America as Portugal / Spain tend to colonize Brazil first. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ar3K6dc.jpg) "play time is over", hopefully I expanded fast enough. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SvhzbLf.jpg) Hopefully selling my border province with Ottomans should buy me some time to Westernize | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
So there are long periods in the game when after I have vassalized and annexed Scotland and Ireland, and when I haven't gotten the necessary techs to go to the new world yet, that there's nothing for me to do but fast forward on max speed and vote for cardinals. I also built some temples and trade ships. What else should I be doing? Are there more ways besides advisors to increase your points gain? My 0/0/0 ruler didn't die for a long time and I didn't get the war of the roses event in my game. I played the England game all the way up to a point where I founded two colonies, one in Arcadia and one in Connecticut. I also fabricated claims and took Manhattan. I'm out of colonists, should I be taking over more land? I have three merchants and placed them at Chesapeake Bay, Gulf of St. Lawrence, and North Sea, all transferring trade power. But I seem to be making less than when I had them at Bordeaux. I maxed out the naval limit with mostly trade ships. What should I be doing at this point? How do I increase trade? Should I be going to war in Europe? I got a 1/1/6 ruler after Henry died and my military tech is really far ahead. What constitutes as winning the game? Also, should I be keeping both army and navy maintenance at zero when at war? I keep the army maintenance down but keep up the navy maintenance for trade ships. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11906 Posts
You could fight other powers over colonial supremacy. You could try to gain back what france took from you. You could try to take over Spain and Portugal to become the supreme atlantic power. Become a crusader and crush filthy turks for the glory of the holy roman church. Suppress the protestant revolution. Convert to protestant and fight the catholic establishment. Become the Holy Roman Emperor. Invade China and India. Basically, just set a goal that sounds cool, and then try to figure out how you can accomplish it. Built alliances, fight wars, etc. If you just built 2 colonies in the americas, there is probably not yet a lot of goods coming over from there. Over the next centuries, the area will develop and there will be shitloads of money streaming towards europe. | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
I have three merchants and placed them at Chesapeake Bay, Gulf of St. Lawrence, and North Sea, all transferring trade power. Are you transferring the trade power to the right nodes? Chesapeake should flow to Gulf, Gulf to North Sea, North Sea to London If you just built 2 colonies in the americas, there is probably not yet a lot of goods coming over from there. Over the next centuries, the area will develop and there will be shitloads of money streaming towards europe. you can beat up the natives too, once you have a colonial nation you can send them military governors and they are very likely to also attack the natives | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
edit: I was transferring correctly, just checked. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11906 Posts
Not doing too much for 10-20 years can happen, as you sometimes just need to replenish manpower from a major war or bleed off aggressive expansion. You could secure some alliances, or do other stuff. Sometimes just not being too active for a while is the best thing to do, you can use up your political and military capital a lot faster then you can replenish it. If you want Brittany, take it. Maybe you could set the goal of dismantling the filthy french, if you don't know what you want to do. Getting alliances with Burgundy, Castille, Aragon, or Austria would help with this. Getting Brittany would also help. You seem to be stuck in trying to figure out what the game wants you to do or what you should do, but what you should really look at is what you want to do, and then see how you can do it. Then you learn what works or doesn't work, and what could be a danger in future attempts. Eu4 is a lot better at communicating the consequences of actions beforehand when compared to EU3, but it is still not always obvious. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HF0bddu.jpg) just another day in glorious omani empire. Also Indian troops are better than Muslim troops around tech 10~, wtf | ||
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Anesthetic
United States225 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On another note EU4/Steam are fucking me over badly atm- continued my Granada campaing last night, lost internet connection and decided to go to bed due to no more ironman. And today EU4 is like "you can't activate ironman because your game needs to be unmodded and verified. What? It certainly was unmodded and verified a few hours ago when I went to sleep you dumb game >< . (Steam is online and cloud saves are on, I checked) | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
So in my Granada campaign that paradox (steam?) so rudely interrupted I have relocated to the balkans. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jvj9fwt.jpg?1) (I apologize for the screenshot, can't load the ironman save atm, for obvious reasons.) Vassalised Serbia, annexed and sold Wallachia to Serbia, vassalized and integrated Bosnia, vassalized Byzantium (they own archea, naxos, crete, rhodos and i got athens for them as well), beat Croatia out of Hungary as my vassal and sold them my iberian lands to keep Castille off my back. I think my alliance with the Ottomans is still holding for the moment, but since I have so much pondering time on my hands and can't play I'm wondering where to go next. Getting the Byzantium cores back from Otto seems so very tempting, but they are my strongest (only atm.) ally, and singlehandedly destroyed the coalition of austria&friends + hungary + poland/lithuania that I had against me after all those vassalisations/annexations. Odds were ~3:1 against us (like I did anything noteworthy in that war) but Otto was like npnpnpnp and walked over everyone. They're also allied to QQ who control most of Arabia. Me so scurred, poopy in my pants. Italy might be a good option if Otto stays faithful to me, even though the Christians are quite pissed at me already. At least it's the right direction (long time goal is Iberia, obviously). Going through Hungary might also work, but they tend to have ridiculous allies and I'm somewhat put off by their +100% coring costs. Ideas? | ||
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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Anesthetic
United States225 Posts
On May 21 2014 13:54 Monsen wrote: Hmm 1444 Byzantium is not really luck based I feel. Take loans, buy galleys way over your force limit, blockade straight, wait until Otto armies are on the asian side, declare war, wait for war exaustion to spawn all them greek patriots, win. Seems to be very consistent. They patched the AI so that it just straight up walks all the way around through crimea and moldavia, also if they declare on you right after Albania your screwed anyways no matter what size fleet you have (unless you abuse the scorched earth thing). Before 1.5 It used to take me like 2-3 restarts to get a game where I survived but my recent game took like 5 tries. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
On May 22 2014 19:30 Monsen wrote: It appears this is a problem that many people are currently having. Maybe this helps some of you to see if/when it's fixed and at the very least saves you from mindless reinstalling and whatnot. So in my Granada campaign that paradox (steam?) so rudely interrupted I have relocated to the balkans. (I apologize for the screenshot, can't load the ironman save atm, for obvious reasons.) Vassalised Serbia, annexed and sold Wallachia to Serbia, vassalized and integrated Bosnia, vassalized Byzantium (they own archea, naxos, crete, rhodos and i got athens for them as well), beat Croatia out of Hungary as my vassal and sold them my iberian lands to keep Castille off my back. I think my alliance with the Ottomans is still holding for the moment, but since I have so much pondering time on my hands and can't play I'm wondering where to go next. Getting the Byzantium cores back from Otto seems so very tempting, but they are my strongest (only atm.) ally, and singlehandedly destroyed the coalition of austria&friends + hungary + poland/lithuania that I had against me after all those vassalisations/annexations. Odds were ~3:1 against us (like I did anything noteworthy in that war) but Otto was like npnpnpnp and walked over everyone. They're also allied to QQ who control most of Arabia. Me so scurred, poopy in my pants. Italy might be a good option if Otto stays faithful to me, even though the Christians are quite pissed at me already. At least it's the right direction (long time goal is Iberia, obviously). Going through Hungary might also work, but they tend to have ridiculous allies and I'm somewhat put off by their +100% coring costs. Ideas? finish quickly, because Paradox is eviscerating vassal-expand strategies in 1.6. They gave it three separate nerfs: -AE for vassalization scales on number of vassal provinces -nerf to neighbor bonuses (as vassal strategies will tend to leave you behind on diplotech) -the big one - it now costs 15 diplo points per vassal base tax to annex | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6288 Posts
On May 23 2014 01:38 419 wrote: finish quickly, because Paradox is eviscerating vassal-expand strategies in 1.6. They gave it three separate nerfs: -AE for vassalization scales on number of vassal provinces -nerf to neighbor bonuses (as vassal strategies will tend to leave you behind on diplotech) -the big one - it now costs 15 diplo points per vassal base tax to annex Did they also change coring cost and time then otherwise it's getting ridiculously tough to expand. | ||
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