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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 23 2014 06:09 GMT
#1161
They removed coring time scaling with number of provinces.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 23 2014 06:51 GMT
#1162
Is this patch coming out with Wealth of Nations? If so when?
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 08:17:52
May 23 2014 08:16 GMT
#1163
Next week afaik.
Here's the Ironman fix in case any of you were suffering as well.

(Go to steam>eu iv>properties>betas>ironman hotfix)
11 years and counting- TL #680
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
May 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#1164
WoN is supposed to go live on 29th May, 1.6 with it.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 15:20:15
May 23 2014 15:11 GMT
#1165
I feel like I should get a minghal world conquest + Show Spoiler +
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?770330-DDRJake-at-it-again-world-conquest-with-the-Minghals
before 1.6 comes out. You know, just to be able to say I've done it.

On May 23 2014 15:09 419 wrote:
They removed coring time scaling with number of provinces.

If this is happening I am perfectly fine with vassals annexing being nerfed. It will make removing huge countries a lot easier. It's not like you really need diplo tech :D

I'm glad trucebreaking got nerfed. I always thought it was extraordinarily OP if done right.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1950 Posts
May 29 2014 18:43 GMT
#1166
Hey guys, help me out here quick, please. I am playing as Cherokee and want to westernize. The web said i need to be 8 tech-levels behind my neighbour, what is manageable although i just reformed my government. However, the tooltip in game says i need to be 24 levels behind england. wtf? Is this a tooltip bug or did they make me wait for like 1700 before i could westernize without ever investing points in tech again?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 29 2014 18:49 GMT
#1167
patch day blues sup
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1950 Posts
May 29 2014 19:31 GMT
#1168
Is that an answer to my question? if yes, what does it mean?
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 19:50:51
May 29 2014 19:47 GMT
#1169
On May 30 2014 04:31 Broetchenholer wrote:
Is that an answer to my question? if yes, what does it mean?

Should be 8 levels as far as I'm aware. I did the Cherokee achievement, and remember Westernizing at 8.

Expansion and patch just released today, so it's possible that it might be a bug, maybe?

Anyone playing the expansion? How's the new trade system?
Big water
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2014 19:51 GMT
#1170
REBELS REBELS EVERYWHERE
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1950 Posts
May 29 2014 22:08 GMT
#1171
Okay, it still says, you need to be 24 tech levels behind the western nation. You are only 8 levels behind. All other known requirements for westernisation are met, i'd say they ninja patched it or it's a bug. No reason to play this until it is fixed, waiting till Newfoundland has teched up 16 levels is not gonna play.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 30 2014 00:22 GMT
#1172
dling expansion right now, gonna try a new game with england!
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
May 30 2014 00:27 GMT
#1173
On May 30 2014 09:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dling expansion right now, gonna try a new game with england!

That's what I did too. They changed annexing though... it was a major drain on diplo points to annex Scotland (15 per month for two years). It's been 20 years and I have only teched up in military... thank you Henry VI.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 30 2014 00:43 GMT
#1174
I used to reject all royal marriages and send Henry to battle until low fertility, don't think neither of those do much but out of 4 England games I've gotten war of the roses in 3.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 12:01:17
May 30 2014 08:02 GMT
#1175
The base game is on steam sale for 10€ now that WoN is out.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 10:05:48
May 30 2014 10:04 GMT
#1176
the new add on is rly rly nice

also the mod VERITAS ET FORTITUDO is like playing a WHOLE NEW GAME ^^ it made me extend my eu4 playtime from 300 to nearly 500 hours now

On May 30 2014 09:27 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 09:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dling expansion right now, gonna try a new game with england!

That's what I did too. They changed annexing though... it was a major drain on diplo points to annex Scotland (15 per month for two years). It's been 20 years and I have only teched up in military... thank you Henry VI.


well i did always the vassel + integrate stuff, which now costs a LOT of diplo points ... harsh
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 30 2014 16:52 GMT
#1177
Well admittedly beating huge vassal territories out of major powers (persia, byzantium, novgorod and guyenne come to mind) and getting all those cores for free some years later was way too strong. I suspect they overnerfed it a bit though.
11 years and counting- TL #680
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 17:53:49
May 30 2014 17:53 GMT
#1178
I agree that there are some cases where vassal feeding is degenerate, but tacking on another diplo point cost when vassals already cost 240 dip flat (since they do cost a diplo relation) also discourages small-state vassalization.

Good thing diplo tech doesn't really mean anything so sitting on diplo tech 3 until 1800s is completely viable.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 30 2014 19:01 GMT
#1179
[image loading]
patch day 0 working as intended
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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 19:16:55
May 30 2014 19:12 GMT
#1180
On May 31 2014 01:52 Monsen wrote:
Well admittedly beating huge vassal territories out of major powers (persia, byzantium, novgorod and guyenne come to mind) and getting all those cores for free some years later was way too strong. I suspect they overnerfed it a bit though.

Yeah, but I liked it because it still let you actually grow, and there weren't a TON of places were you could truly abuse it to the maximum (though persia, ukraine, etc. were a bit abusive). I don't really understand Paradox's inherent hatred for the player being able to make significant expansions in reasonable amounts of time. It's not very fun to not be able to expand.
On May 31 2014 02:53 419 wrote:
I agree that there are some cases where vassal feeding is degenerate, but tacking on another diplo point cost when vassals already cost 240 dip flat (since they do cost a diplo relation) also discourages small-state vassalization.

Good thing diplo tech doesn't really mean anything so sitting on diplo tech 3 until 1800s is completely viable.

Diplo tech seems kind of important if you plan on colonizing or getting involved in international trade, though. Probably not important if you are planning on just going for European conquest, though.
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