• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:42
CEST 06:42
KST 13:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon205.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes28Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Is the larve respawn broken? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9>
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ProGamer Paychecks Story
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
[94721]Better Good-Health Signs Than 3-15 Bans/Yea TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4687 users

Europa Universalis IV - Page 59

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 209 Next
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 23 2014 06:09 GMT
#1161
They removed coring time scaling with number of provinces.
?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 23 2014 06:51 GMT
#1162
Is this patch coming out with Wealth of Nations? If so when?
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 08:17:52
May 23 2014 08:16 GMT
#1163
Next week afaik.
Here's the Ironman fix in case any of you were suffering as well.

(Go to steam>eu iv>properties>betas>ironman hotfix)
11 years and counting- TL #680
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
May 23 2014 12:57 GMT
#1164
WoN is supposed to go live on 29th May, 1.6 with it.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 15:20:15
May 23 2014 15:11 GMT
#1165
I feel like I should get a minghal world conquest + Show Spoiler +
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?770330-DDRJake-at-it-again-world-conquest-with-the-Minghals
before 1.6 comes out. You know, just to be able to say I've done it.

On May 23 2014 15:09 419 wrote:
They removed coring time scaling with number of provinces.

If this is happening I am perfectly fine with vassals annexing being nerfed. It will make removing huge countries a lot easier. It's not like you really need diplo tech :D

I'm glad trucebreaking got nerfed. I always thought it was extraordinarily OP if done right.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1963 Posts
May 29 2014 18:43 GMT
#1166
Hey guys, help me out here quick, please. I am playing as Cherokee and want to westernize. The web said i need to be 8 tech-levels behind my neighbour, what is manageable although i just reformed my government. However, the tooltip in game says i need to be 24 levels behind england. wtf? Is this a tooltip bug or did they make me wait for like 1700 before i could westernize without ever investing points in tech again?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 29 2014 18:49 GMT
#1167
patch day blues sup
?
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1963 Posts
May 29 2014 19:31 GMT
#1168
Is that an answer to my question? if yes, what does it mean?
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 19:50:51
May 29 2014 19:47 GMT
#1169
On May 30 2014 04:31 Broetchenholer wrote:
Is that an answer to my question? if yes, what does it mean?

Should be 8 levels as far as I'm aware. I did the Cherokee achievement, and remember Westernizing at 8.

Expansion and patch just released today, so it's possible that it might be a bug, maybe?

Anyone playing the expansion? How's the new trade system?
Big water
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 29 2014 19:51 GMT
#1170
REBELS REBELS EVERYWHERE
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1963 Posts
May 29 2014 22:08 GMT
#1171
Okay, it still says, you need to be 24 tech levels behind the western nation. You are only 8 levels behind. All other known requirements for westernisation are met, i'd say they ninja patched it or it's a bug. No reason to play this until it is fixed, waiting till Newfoundland has teched up 16 levels is not gonna play.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 30 2014 00:22 GMT
#1172
dling expansion right now, gonna try a new game with england!
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
May 30 2014 00:27 GMT
#1173
On May 30 2014 09:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dling expansion right now, gonna try a new game with england!

That's what I did too. They changed annexing though... it was a major drain on diplo points to annex Scotland (15 per month for two years). It's been 20 years and I have only teched up in military... thank you Henry VI.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 30 2014 00:43 GMT
#1174
I used to reject all royal marriages and send Henry to battle until low fertility, don't think neither of those do much but out of 4 England games I've gotten war of the roses in 3.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 12:01:17
May 30 2014 08:02 GMT
#1175
The base game is on steam sale for 10€ now that WoN is out.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 10:05:48
May 30 2014 10:04 GMT
#1176
the new add on is rly rly nice

also the mod VERITAS ET FORTITUDO is like playing a WHOLE NEW GAME ^^ it made me extend my eu4 playtime from 300 to nearly 500 hours now

On May 30 2014 09:27 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 09:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dling expansion right now, gonna try a new game with england!

That's what I did too. They changed annexing though... it was a major drain on diplo points to annex Scotland (15 per month for two years). It's been 20 years and I have only teched up in military... thank you Henry VI.


well i did always the vassel + integrate stuff, which now costs a LOT of diplo points ... harsh
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 30 2014 16:52 GMT
#1177
Well admittedly beating huge vassal territories out of major powers (persia, byzantium, novgorod and guyenne come to mind) and getting all those cores for free some years later was way too strong. I suspect they overnerfed it a bit though.
11 years and counting- TL #680
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 17:53:49
May 30 2014 17:53 GMT
#1178
I agree that there are some cases where vassal feeding is degenerate, but tacking on another diplo point cost when vassals already cost 240 dip flat (since they do cost a diplo relation) also discourages small-state vassalization.

Good thing diplo tech doesn't really mean anything so sitting on diplo tech 3 until 1800s is completely viable.
?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
May 30 2014 19:01 GMT
#1179
[image loading]
patch day 0 working as intended
?
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-30 19:16:55
May 30 2014 19:12 GMT
#1180
On May 31 2014 01:52 Monsen wrote:
Well admittedly beating huge vassal territories out of major powers (persia, byzantium, novgorod and guyenne come to mind) and getting all those cores for free some years later was way too strong. I suspect they overnerfed it a bit though.

Yeah, but I liked it because it still let you actually grow, and there weren't a TON of places were you could truly abuse it to the maximum (though persia, ukraine, etc. were a bit abusive). I don't really understand Paradox's inherent hatred for the player being able to make significant expansions in reasonable amounts of time. It's not very fun to not be able to expand.
On May 31 2014 02:53 419 wrote:
I agree that there are some cases where vassal feeding is degenerate, but tacking on another diplo point cost when vassals already cost 240 dip flat (since they do cost a diplo relation) also discourages small-state vassalization.

Good thing diplo tech doesn't really mean anything so sitting on diplo tech 3 until 1800s is completely viable.

Diplo tech seems kind of important if you plan on colonizing or getting involved in international trade, though. Probably not important if you are planning on just going for European conquest, though.
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 209 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL Masters #7 - Day 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft651
Nina 159
RuFF_SC2 138
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4094
GuemChi 3123
Free 148
Mind 132
Shuttle 90
Noble 63
HiyA 44
yabsab 35
Bale 29
ZergMaN 22
[ Show more ]
Purpose 9
Icarus 8
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm135
League of Legends
Doublelift2361
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox973
Other Games
summit1g7915
C9.Mang0562
PiGStarcraft287
ViBE181
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1114
BasetradeTV293
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream173
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 93
• practicex 17
• mYiSmile112
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1493
• Lourlo1124
• Stunt440
Upcoming Events
CrankTV Team League
6h 18m
Bombastic Starleague
15h 18m
The PondCast
1d 5h
HomeStory Cup
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W1
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.