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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 11:05:46
May 09 2017 11:04 GMT
#3901
On May 08 2017 23:22 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2017 05:03 Scip wrote:
After you get your first 2 alliances I imagine it should be pretty consistent though
well as consistent as it gets. You should survive anyhow, I think.

After that yeah, usually takes about 5-6 months though, and sometimes you get instant wars in the first 2 and no way to win those

Errr I think it takes maybe 2-4 years on VH
it's hard to get over the -20 penalty
unless you are converting to orthodox and allying stuff like Wallachia and Bosnia, but I don't think these help vs. Ottomans much.
Or unless there is some epic secret tech I'm not aware of
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 09 2017 13:13 GMT
#3902
On May 09 2017 20:04 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2017 23:22 arb wrote:
On May 08 2017 05:03 Scip wrote:
After you get your first 2 alliances I imagine it should be pretty consistent though
well as consistent as it gets. You should survive anyhow, I think.

After that yeah, usually takes about 5-6 months though, and sometimes you get instant wars in the first 2 and no way to win those

Errr I think it takes maybe 2-4 years on VH
it's hard to get over the -20 penalty
unless you are converting to orthodox and allying stuff like Wallachia and Bosnia, but I don't think these help vs. Ottomans much.
Or unless there is some epic secret tech I'm not aware of

i usually just play on normal but idk. you can get Austria early well, within the first year or so if you play it smart but Ottomans usually wont attack you, and if you get lucky and somehow get Austria/Hungary/Poland which i managed once you can roll through them pretty easy though in practice. Unless Ottomans ally France or something
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 13:26:20
May 09 2017 13:24 GMT
#3903
I've seen Austria+Hungary+Poland get absolutely smashed by Ottomans alone in the early game. The problem is that Ottomans have a ruler with 6 in mil, while Austria and Hungary both have 0 mil leaders iirc. Ottomans tend to get Mil5 before Austria gets mil3... Austria can get stackwiped in even number fights, it's absolutely brutal. It's not until about tech 7 that the western powers catch up in mil tech. Allying all of Austria/Hungary/Poland is pretty hard, as either Austria or Hungary is likely to rival Poland, unless they all collectively agree to hate on Bohemia.

You need those alliances more for deterrance than actually fighting the Ottomans. Maybe with good leadership you can fight them to a white peace with a strong web of alliances early, but getting any reasonable amount of land out of them doesn't seem very realistic.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 09 2017 15:56 GMT
#3904
On May 09 2017 22:24 Scip wrote:
I've seen Austria+Hungary+Poland get absolutely smashed by Ottomans alone in the early game. The problem is that Ottomans have a ruler with 6 in mil, while Austria and Hungary both have 0 mil leaders iirc. Ottomans tend to get Mil5 before Austria gets mil3... Austria can get stackwiped in even number fights, it's absolutely brutal. It's not until about tech 7 that the western powers catch up in mil tech. Allying all of Austria/Hungary/Poland is pretty hard, as either Austria or Hungary is likely to rival Poland, unless they all collectively agree to hate on Bohemia.

You need those alliances more for deterrance than actually fighting the Ottomans. Maybe with good leadership you can fight them to a white peace with a strong web of alliances early, but getting any reasonable amount of land out of them doesn't seem very realistic.

I think Austria is 1-5-2 if i recall and hungary if they take the decision should be 4-4-5 poland is almost 100% 4-4-1 though, I've noticed Austria/Poland is possible but Austria wont help vs kebabs unless they have them rivaled, hungary is usually not possible though, it'll always be poland/austria or austria/hungary 99% of the time
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
May 09 2017 16:17 GMT
#3905
Marco did it on stream, but it took several attempts until Otto gave him enough time to eat the balkan. Also he switched to Orthodox and back to Catholic to convert all that land via rebels. With the balkans cored and converted he had enough strength to get Austria+-plc. With that it was just a matter of waiting for the right time.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7747 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-15 13:18:51
June 15 2017 12:50 GMT
#3906
I've just started a colonization game and I need some insight, as I've never colonised before in EU4. I know colonial nations form once there are 5 colonies in a region, that they give you tarrifs and trade power and that they should field their own armies and colonise lands around them on their own. Are there any traps/tips/problems I should know of? I searched a bit on the web and people were taking about things like CN not colonizing at all or not building armies. Any info you can give me guys will be appreciated
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-15 17:28:16
June 15 2017 17:03 GMT
#3907
On June 15 2017 21:50 PoulsenB wrote:
I've just started a colonization game and I need some insight, as I've never colonised before in EU4. I know colonial nations form once there are 5 colonies in a region, that they give you tarrifs and trade power and that they should field their own armies and colonise lands around them on their own. Are there any traps/tips/problems I should know of? I searched a bit on the web and people were taking about things like CN not colonizing at all or not building armies. Any info you can give me guys will be appreciated

I've never properly colonized, but if you want the easiest playthrough ever, move your capital to America. In order to do that, you need your capital to be the only province you own in that continent. For example, Portugal can move to Ceuta, then to America. Or if you're playing as one of the SE Asian OPMs, you can just move to America without any problems.

OH DAMN NEW PATCH
Aristocratic is the best idea group now guys. Heard it here first.
And Innovative 2nd best. Hell yeah. Where's my espionage buff?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
ArchmageKruzer
Profile Joined August 2013
64 Posts
June 15 2017 17:09 GMT
#3908
I was in the middle of my first world conquest try (ottomans), when the new patch came in. I loaded it, saved it, and it converted to the new patch, but for some reason my economy went from +17 ducats a month to -51. I didn't see anything in the patch notes that would suggest such a change. Any ideas?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 15 2017 17:45 GMT
#3909
I just saw the changes to Aristocratic ideas and yeah, they are really strong.

Will probably wait to try the new patch until the SuperStates mod is compatible with 1.22 though
EZ4ENCE
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
June 16 2017 16:52 GMT
#3910
Does anyone know how to use Syberian frontier now? I am playing Muscovy, just integreted Perm and i border uncolonized land, i dont get any options or new buttons...
What are reqirements (or where should the button be?)
Pathetic Greta hater.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 16 2017 18:28 GMT
#3911
On June 17 2017 01:52 Silvanel wrote:
Does anyone know how to use Syberian frontier now? I am playing Muscovy, just integreted Perm and i border uncolonized land, i dont get any options or new buttons...
What are reqirements (or where should the button be?)

be russia
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
June 22 2017 06:44 GMT
#3912
Thx. One more question. When at latest did Colonialism spawn in Your games? Its 1527 no Colonialism in my game.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Sheepshaman
Profile Joined April 2015
Colombia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-22 06:54:15
June 22 2017 06:53 GMT
#3913
On June 22 2017 15:44 Silvanel wrote:
Thx. One more question. When at latest did Colonialism spawn in Your games? Its 1527 no Colonialism in my game.


Normally means none of the colonizers have actually discovered America, I've seen it go up to I believe it was around the 1550's before it spawned. I was under the impression its forced spawned at that point.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 26 2017 00:15 GMT
#3914
On June 22 2017 15:44 Silvanel wrote:
Thx. One more question. When at latest did Colonialism spawn in Your games? Its 1527 no Colonialism in my game.

Id say quite late if you can somehow manage to cripple England/Portugal/Castile/France kinda early.
Best done as France obviously. In my last game as France id managed to defeat Castile/Portugal and Union Aragon before 1500so id say its possible then, it depends also on what ideas England decides to take, odds being they start with Maritime or something stupid usually you can delay it for a long time. but like said above i think it has to spawn by a certain point to make way for the next thing
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
June 26 2017 01:24 GMT
#3915
MEIOU and taxes 2.0 should be dropping tomorrow at noonish EST. Super hype for the monolith of a mod to formaly launch itself.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 26 2017 04:46 GMT
#3916
On June 26 2017 10:24 Sermokala wrote:
MEIOU and taxes 2.0 should be dropping tomorrow at noonish EST. Super hype for the monolith of a mod to formaly launch itself.

What exactly is that?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
June 26 2017 15:25 GMT
#3917
On June 26 2017 13:46 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 10:24 Sermokala wrote:
MEIOU and taxes 2.0 should be dropping tomorrow at noonish EST. Super hype for the monolith of a mod to formaly launch itself.

What exactly is that?


A mod that adds a lot of features to the game. Reman made an interesting video about it explaining the new features:

If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
June 26 2017 19:43 GMT
#3918
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/m-t-download-thread-version-2-00-post-bug-reports-here.1032433/

And shes loose.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7747 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-27 11:18:48
June 27 2017 11:17 GMT
#3919
If I declare war on another country's colonial nation, does the country get to call all their allies to the war, or just their other subjects? Spain is starting to eat into my (potential) north American territory and I wonder how should I go about taking over their colonies there without a long, exhaustive war.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 27 2017 18:27 GMT
#3920
On June 27 2017 20:17 PoulsenB wrote:
If I declare war on another country's colonial nation, does the country get to call all their allies to the war, or just their other subjects? Spain is starting to eat into my (potential) north American territory and I wonder how should I go about taking over their colonies there without a long, exhaustive war.

They call all alllies, but if you can beat most of the mother country you're fine. Colonies cost an absurdly low amount of war score so you can take them as you please
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