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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14157 Posts
May 31 2016 04:54 GMT
#3541
On May 31 2016 13:34 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 12:27 Salazarz wrote:
On May 31 2016 07:52 arb wrote:
On May 30 2016 22:53 jtype wrote:
On May 30 2016 12:18 arb wrote:
On May 30 2016 06:40 jtype wrote:
Well, I've since looked it up and that's clearly the case, but I was going off of this description: "As Byzantium, restore the Roman Empire", so it was still a little bit surprising not to see it work.

I always check before going for an achievement, as time consuming as EU can be i dont wanna mess up and fuck myself out of an achieve like, ever.


Yea I'll definitely start doing that from now on. Not that it really matters, but it's nice to know it's not bugged. I've only started paying attention to achievements recently and I'm not too fussed about whether I have them or not. It's just good to have a challenge to aim for.

Even though I've played ~350 hours in EU4 so far, I'd still consider myself a noob really. I've always set my own goals in these games and always felt like I was aiming either too high or too low. So knowing that there are difficult achievements that are possible to do, helps motivate me to keep trying. It forces me to learn a lot more about the mechanics of the game than I would just by playing casually, too.

My biggest weakness id think is how to play out wars really, and how people manage to get like 5000 development in 100 years
i dont get how you dont die to coalitions when you get that aggressive


You declare multiple wars at a time, and stagger the peace treaties with the countries who would be most important as part of a coalition; then you keep re-declaring war on any potential coalition member as soon as truces end, essentially keeping a bunch of truces rolling that prevent a strong coalition from forming. There are other tricks too but that's the most basic and the most important way to prevent big coalitions from forming. Gamey as fuck of course, like all of these 'impressive' world conquests etc are.

how do you not die cause of no manpower in situations where that happens?

Use just the base seige unit nessasary on each fort and have the rest of the army loot the countryside without attrition. that and mercenaries as the seige unit when you dominate a trade node or 2.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 05:06:02
May 31 2016 05:05 GMT
#3542
On May 31 2016 13:34 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 12:27 Salazarz wrote:
On May 31 2016 07:52 arb wrote:
On May 30 2016 22:53 jtype wrote:
On May 30 2016 12:18 arb wrote:
On May 30 2016 06:40 jtype wrote:
Well, I've since looked it up and that's clearly the case, but I was going off of this description: "As Byzantium, restore the Roman Empire", so it was still a little bit surprising not to see it work.

I always check before going for an achievement, as time consuming as EU can be i dont wanna mess up and fuck myself out of an achieve like, ever.


Yea I'll definitely start doing that from now on. Not that it really matters, but it's nice to know it's not bugged. I've only started paying attention to achievements recently and I'm not too fussed about whether I have them or not. It's just good to have a challenge to aim for.

Even though I've played ~350 hours in EU4 so far, I'd still consider myself a noob really. I've always set my own goals in these games and always felt like I was aiming either too high or too low. So knowing that there are difficult achievements that are possible to do, helps motivate me to keep trying. It forces me to learn a lot more about the mechanics of the game than I would just by playing casually, too.

My biggest weakness id think is how to play out wars really, and how people manage to get like 5000 development in 100 years
i dont get how you dont die to coalitions when you get that aggressive


You declare multiple wars at a time, and stagger the peace treaties with the countries who would be most important as part of a coalition; then you keep re-declaring war on any potential coalition member as soon as truces end, essentially keeping a bunch of truces rolling that prevent a strong coalition from forming. There are other tricks too but that's the most basic and the most important way to prevent big coalitions from forming. Gamey as fuck of course, like all of these 'impressive' world conquests etc are.

how do you not die cause of no manpower in situations where that happens?


Use mercenaries instead of your manpower :p
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 08:18:44
May 31 2016 08:18 GMT
#3543
Also improving realtions + declaring war in other part of the world helps. I dont know how exactly it is working but AI seems to think that when You DoW someone half the world away they are suddenly safe (how wrong it is).

On more funny note i recently noticed in the trust icon of other countries (i am playing Byzantium) it says:
"Byzantium is a Human player and should never be trusted" oh how right You are my gentle Ai how right You are....
Pathetic Greta hater.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 13:38:56
May 31 2016 13:37 GMT
#3544
I don't think you need to juggle coalitions to blob hard. I always watch my AE very carefully and just improve relations with a few key countries that would form a coalition against me. Also, when the coalition has less than 3 members, they will never declare, so you really don't need to improve relations with everyone. When I did my one-tag (with an admittedly easy country), I never had any coalition against me and that game was constant conquest.
I think it's easy to forget how much AE you save by using the reconquest CB of vassals. This is really essential for blobbing super hard.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 15:23:10
May 31 2016 15:18 GMT
#3545
Conserving manpower has been one of the biggest things I've had to learn (semi-)recently. Really paying attention to supply limits and terrain types (not attacking into mountains, etc.) has helped a lot, but also using way more mercs than I used to.

When I was brand new to the game I would only ever use mercs in an emergency, like reinforcing a tough battle. Now I use them a lot more. I aim to use domestic cavalry and cannons and use mainly merc infantry. I don't know how good/cost-efficient that is, but it definitely saves manpower.

edit - on a related note: does anyone do the army-cycling technique from Vic 2 in EU4? Does it actually work in this game?
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6293 Posts
May 31 2016 17:05 GMT
#3546
Yeah it works in the endgame when battles are large and can take months.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14157 Posts
May 31 2016 21:19 GMT
#3547
or with primatives early game when you don't have enough combat width to make a full army worth it.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-02 14:19:42
June 02 2016 14:18 GMT
#3548
On May 31 2016 22:37 nimbim wrote:
I don't think you need to juggle coalitions to blob hard. I always watch my AE very carefully and just improve relations with a few key countries that would form a coalition against me. Also, when the coalition has less than 3 members, they will never declare, so you really don't need to improve relations with everyone. When I did my one-tag (with an admittedly easy country), I never had any coalition against me and that game was constant conquest.
I think it's easy to forget how much AE you save by using the reconquest CB of vassals. This is really essential for blobbing super hard.

I can't think of that many good reconquest vassals - Novgorod / Persia / Aragon / Naples / Byzantium / Mamluks / Guyenne / Burgundy / Kazakh (lol steppelands who cares) are the only guys off the top of my head who consistently top 100 dev and either dont exist in 1444 or highly likely die in a fire.

I guess you got exploded Ming but do you really want Ming as a vassal.
?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
June 02 2016 14:51 GMT
#3549
stellaris disappointment makes me want to play this game again
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 02 2016 15:04 GMT
#3550
On June 02 2016 23:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
stellaris disappointment makes me want to play this game again

i actually got a refund on stellaris tbh
made me sad it didnt live up to my expectations at all.

only achievement i really want atm is draculas revenge but as usual almost impossible ive noticed
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-02 17:38:35
June 02 2016 17:29 GMT
#3551
On June 02 2016 23:18 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 22:37 nimbim wrote:
I don't think you need to juggle coalitions to blob hard. I always watch my AE very carefully and just improve relations with a few key countries that would form a coalition against me. Also, when the coalition has less than 3 members, they will never declare, so you really don't need to improve relations with everyone. When I did my one-tag (with an admittedly easy country), I never had any coalition against me and that game was constant conquest.
I think it's easy to forget how much AE you save by using the reconquest CB of vassals. This is really essential for blobbing super hard.

I can't think of that many good reconquest vassals - Novgorod / Persia / Aragon / Naples / Byzantium / Mamluks / Guyenne / Burgundy / Kazakh (lol steppelands who cares) are the only guys off the top of my head who consistently top 100 dev and either dont exist in 1444 or highly likely die in a fire.

I guess you got exploded Ming but do you really want Ming as a vassal.


TO is pretty big too and Styria is awesome to get into Vienna, but even with smaller vassals you can save AE on at least a couple of provinces and you're getting a vassal to feed in general at the same time. Of course, it can come down to sheer luck if there's nothing appropriate. The Indian region is pretty violent, so there's often something you can pick up to feed, but in Central/Eastern Africa it could be hard to find one with more than 2 provinces.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-02 21:59:17
June 02 2016 20:21 GMT
#3552
Outside of Europe AE is usually a lot more easy to manage.

Edit: Stellaris unfortunately was just another MOO clone, and didn't really have that paradox magic at all. That said, I don't think paradox will top EU4 until EU5. I think HOI 4 will be fun, but I'll be really surprised if it's better than EU4, given the shorter time frame it has, and the fact that it'll most likely have much stronger 'railroading'.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6293 Posts
June 14 2016 17:02 GMT
#3553
Victoria 3 maybe if they ever develop it.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 16 2016 16:57 GMT
#3554
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-16th-of-june-2016.948773/

1.18 is certainly approaching Art of War level of an expansion if you ask me. Personalities sound likes an awesome addition to me, and it is also a buff to monarchies.
EZ4ENCE
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 01:43:43
June 17 2016 01:33 GMT
#3555
if you want to see me scrub it up, I now occasionally stream some low quality (in multiple ways) EU4 at: https://www.twitch.tv/bbqftw_

current campaign is Pate Third Way (eliminate all Sunnis and Shias as Ibadi) on Very Hard difficulty. Featuring 320 regiments Russia, 280 regiments HREmperor Brandenburg, super Austria, and a 20 year war with Ottomans that went down to -50% warscore before I brought it back.
?
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 18 2016 11:02 GMT
#3556
gave you a follow

dat framerate though
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 20 2016 06:23 GMT
#3557
my laptop even freezes while writing a thesis in microsoft word so its not surprising it dies in a fire while playing / streaming EU4
?
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
July 30 2016 07:52 GMT
#3558
cant wait for eu4 2.0

im trying out states&territories patch, playing ming, and basically going for that tentacle of knowledge strat, so i can westernize early. but knowing what new patch is bringing, its really hard to motivate myself, even tho i already decided i want to play a game where im completely OP, so i can finally reach the end date. whenever i get too big, i just start new game, so i thought i could help myself by starting too big xD not sure its working tho...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
July 30 2016 09:19 GMT
#3559
I've found that setting challenging goals is more likely to make me play until 1821. You just started in the position that you don't enjoy to be in. Maybe you would enjoy doing the Ming achievements without westernization or another arbitrary handicap?
If you're just looking to do the 1821 achievement, you could do a Poland run. Timewarp into space.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 30 2016 09:54 GMT
#3560
On July 30 2016 16:52 snailz wrote:
cant wait for eu4 2.0

im trying out states&territories patch, playing ming, and basically going for that tentacle of knowledge strat, so i can westernize early. but knowing what new patch is bringing, its really hard to motivate myself, even tho i already decided i want to play a game where im completely OP, so i can finally reach the end date. whenever i get too big, i just start new game, so i thought i could help myself by starting too big xD not sure its working tho...

if you want a point to steamroll, muscovy/ottomans can quickly reach the a click stacks and destroy 10+ countries at once mode.

if you can revoke privlegia at a decent time you can laugh like fuck as even the ottomans are ran over by 1mil+ man armies with no hope of survival. that shit is pure gold
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