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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 06:39:23
December 23 2015 06:37 GMT
#3121
Mzab / Pate both have super dicey starts and they have an achievement (stay Ibadi, remove all other Islamic heresies).

Mzab has superior government, worse location (theocracies are the best government type now imo). Pate has jank tribal government but richer lands around in general, and can generally ally Kilwa so their diplomatic situation is better.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6271 Posts
December 23 2015 09:42 GMT
#3122
On December 23 2015 12:57 Blackfeather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2015 03:58 RvB wrote:
Any tips of a nation I should play as to start coming back into it?

Depends on how good you were and when you played

I think most medium HRE-states (Bohemia, Brandenburg, Bavaria, Holland) are ok for starters. If you just want to try out mechanics with as little stress as possible I'd play something like England. Sweden is also still a good one, although Muscovy might stress in the far future.

Castile, Muscovy, Ottomans and Poland are still easy games 90% of the time (ordered from weak to strong). Haven't played France recently, but it seems a lot weaker than before. Still a great nation. Austria when you want to try out the emperor-mechanics.

Northern Italy is somewhat more advanced but fun to play. Venice is surprisingly strong but gets hate from kebab, Milan is pretty decent, Papal state is not bad.
Asia:
India's muslim states are really strong regionally and timmy still has the potential to become really strong.
Ming is the odd superpower and a lot of gambling. Imo less interesting. But if you don't break down you can throw hundreds of mercs at everyone.
Anything in Japan is also a cool start, but you might loose.

Outside of that hordes are freaking crazy atm. The easiest right now is probably Uzbek.

Those are too easy but thanks for the advice anyway.

On December 23 2015 15:37 419 wrote:
Mzab / Pate both have super dicey starts and they have an achievement (stay Ibadi, remove all other Islamic heresies).

Mzab has superior government, worse location (theocracies are the best government type now imo). Pate has jank tribal government but richer lands around in general, and can generally ally Kilwa so their diplomatic situation is better.

Thanks, I'll try them both out and see which one I like more.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 23 2015 13:53 GMT
#3123
Mzab was a lot of fun for me. I'm just super annoyed that they added the Ibadi achievement after I had already done it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 23 2015 23:14 GMT
#3124
[image loading]

i dunno almost done with my first full run, didnt get as much territory as i hoped, maybe i can finish the commonwealth or the rest of SE Asia off before 1820 though
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 10:46:14
December 24 2015 10:44 GMT
#3125
Question: What is this owing favors about? Didnt play in a long time.

Was playing as Tunis and helped the Ottomans in their war agains the Mams. I had some provinces of them claimed myself and occupied them, but they didnt give me shit. Instead all I get was "They now owe us 40 favors" (Or sth. like that, I play with german language, dont know the english wording). How does that help me exactly?
Respect my authoritah!!
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 10:45:41
December 24 2015 10:45 GMT
#3126
double post
Respect my authoritah!!
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 24 2015 10:54 GMT
#3127
You can use those favors to increase trust and call them into offensive wars without promising anything. If you want AI to give you provinces you need to mark them as provinces of interest before accepting the cta.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
December 24 2015 11:20 GMT
#3128
On December 24 2015 19:54 nimbim wrote:
You can use those favors to increase trust and call them into offensive wars without promising anything. If you want AI to give you provinces you need to mark them as provinces of interest before accepting the cta.


Thanks, so that's a new thing aswell. They just used to give me provinces I claimed and occupied. Does that mean I don't have to occupy the provinces anymore, just mark them as important to me?
When being the war leader myself, do I have to pay attention only to the provinces my ally marked as important in order to please him?
Respect my authoritah!!
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 24 2015 12:39 GMT
#3129
I just occupy everything im interested in, I don't trust the AI to transfer occupation. You will see in the peacedeal if your allies will be upset and why.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
December 25 2015 00:26 GMT
#3130
[image loading]
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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
December 25 2015 02:22 GMT
#3131
On December 25 2015 09:26 419 wrote:
[image loading]


congratulations, I just can't imagine how anyone can achieve that achiement. Any tricks?
Do you record your games? It would be really interesting to watch.
Respect my authoritah!!
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
December 25 2015 02:40 GMT
#3132
The game is in discount on steam now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/
Is there a huge difference between the standart version and the collection version? Because the price of the collection is too damn high
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 05:26:25
December 25 2015 05:26 GMT
#3133
On December 25 2015 11:22 TerransHill wrote:
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On December 25 2015 09:26 419 wrote:
[image loading]


congratulations, I just can't imagine how anyone can achieve that achiement. Any tricks?
Do you record your games? It would be really interesting to watch.

there's an infinite manpower exploit but you still have to win the first wars "legitimately" without help of the exploit which were the hardest wars in the campaign.

my laptop is miles too crappy to stream unfortunately.
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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 11:58:11
December 25 2015 07:44 GMT
#3134
oops, doublepost
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 09:02:38
December 25 2015 07:47 GMT
#3135
On December 25 2015 11:40 Aegwynn wrote:
The game is in discount on steam now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/
Is there a huge difference between the standart version and the collection version? Because the price of the collection is too damn high


The collection just contains a lot of cosmetic stuff, I have some unit packs from EU4 bundles and I have never noticed them.
The "extreme" edition contains some events for Byzantium and Muslim countries. They are certainly nice to have, but if you don't have it, you won't know the difference.


Congrats, 419. Two WC since Cossacks, how can you endure that?^^
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6271 Posts
December 25 2015 08:59 GMT
#3136
Gz 419. TTM is pretty sick.
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
December 25 2015 15:13 GMT
#3137
On December 25 2015 16:47 nimbim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 11:40 Aegwynn wrote:
The game is in discount on steam now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/
Is there a huge difference between the standart version and the collection version? Because the price of the collection is too damn high


The collection just contains a lot of cosmetic stuff, I have some unit packs from EU4 bundles and I have never noticed them.
The "extreme" edition contains some events for Byzantium and Muslim countries. They are certainly nice to have, but if you don't have it, you won't know the difference.


Congrats, 419. Two WC since Cossacks, how can you endure that?^^


Thanks, so there isn't any gameplay change between the standart and collection?
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 17:18:35
December 25 2015 17:09 GMT
#3138
On December 26 2015 00:13 Aegwynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 16:47 nimbim wrote:
On December 25 2015 11:40 Aegwynn wrote:
The game is in discount on steam now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/
Is there a huge difference between the standart version and the collection version? Because the price of the collection is too damn high


The collection just contains a lot of cosmetic stuff, I have some unit packs from EU4 bundles and I have never noticed them.
The "extreme" edition contains some events for Byzantium and Muslim countries. They are certainly nice to have, but if you don't have it, you won't know the difference.


Congrats, 419. Two WC since Cossacks, how can you endure that?^^


Thanks, so there isn't any gameplay change between the standart and collection?


Apparently it contains the following DLC with gameplay changes: Res Publica, Wealth of Nations and Conquest of Paradise. Additionally there is The Stars and Crescent Pack, which adds some events for Muslim countries. The rest is just cosmetics.

If you just want to get started with EU4, you certainly don't need the expansion DLCs and the 3 in that collection version are the least important of all expansions. Conquest of Paradise had its random new world feature improved recently, but it's still a minor expansion in my opinion.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 25 2015 19:33 GMT
#3139
On December 26 2015 02:09 nimbim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2015 00:13 Aegwynn wrote:
On December 25 2015 16:47 nimbim wrote:
On December 25 2015 11:40 Aegwynn wrote:
The game is in discount on steam now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/
Is there a huge difference between the standart version and the collection version? Because the price of the collection is too damn high


The collection just contains a lot of cosmetic stuff, I have some unit packs from EU4 bundles and I have never noticed them.
The "extreme" edition contains some events for Byzantium and Muslim countries. They are certainly nice to have, but if you don't have it, you won't know the difference.


Congrats, 419. Two WC since Cossacks, how can you endure that?^^


Thanks, so there isn't any gameplay change between the standart and collection?


Apparently it contains the following DLC with gameplay changes: Res Publica, Wealth of Nations and Conquest of Paradise. Additionally there is The Stars and Crescent Pack, which adds some events for Muslim countries. The rest is just cosmetics.

If you just want to get started with EU4, you certainly don't need the expansion DLCs and the 3 in that collection version are the least important of all expansions. Conquest of Paradise had its random new world feature improved recently, but it's still a minor expansion in my opinion.

I think Art of war/Common sense are pretty required tho
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
December 26 2015 05:58 GMT
#3140
Marco's one-tag WC record has fallen, if this is legit:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/is-it-fastest-onetag-wc.899382/
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