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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OkGMD9H.jpg) Ugh. France, Tunis and Aquileia are allied with each other, and Milan is allied with Russia, which means I can't go west anytime soon. I'm probably going to colonize all that gray area all the way to Algeria, and then blitzkrieg Tunis so France doesn't have enough time to beat the shit out of me. Either that or just keep going south until I see penguins. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6261 Posts
On February 02 2015 05:36 ShiaoPi wrote: managed to stay on prussia's good side so far, if not then I am dead since France wants to kill me soooo badly Can't you kill France with Prussian help? I see they have 3 3star generals. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On February 02 2015 06:46 RvB wrote: Can't you kill France with Prussian help? I see they have 3 3star generals. It would work in theory, but the last couple of wars against france were just them besieging half of my provinces, while I try to whittle down the doomstacks. Instead of helping me out Prussia goes and kills french ally Lithuania. The warscore he gets is barely enough to get me a whitepeace before I am overrun by french manpower. With this amazing 0 0 0 regency I can't do jack shit for 13 years anyway and will get so behind in tech/ideas :/ | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On February 02 2015 07:00 ShiaoPi wrote: It would work in theory, but the last couple of wars against france were just them besieging half of my provinces, while I try to whittle down the doomstacks. Instead of helping me out Prussia goes and kills french ally Lithuania. The warscore he gets is barely enough to get me a whitepeace before I am overrun by french manpower. With this amazing 0 0 0 regency I can't do jack shit for 13 years anyway and will get so behind in tech/ideas :/ What's your income like? Could you drop your army maintenance since you can't declare anyway and keep your armies away from France, and use the surplus to temporarily get better advisors? | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6261 Posts
On February 02 2015 07:00 ShiaoPi wrote: It would work in theory, but the last couple of wars against france were just them besieging half of my provinces, while I try to whittle down the doomstacks. Instead of helping me out Prussia goes and kills french ally Lithuania. The warscore he gets is barely enough to get me a whitepeace before I am overrun by french manpower. With this amazing 0 0 0 regency I can't do jack shit for 13 years anyway and will get so behind in tech/ideas :/ Have you tried attacking Lithuania first and getting them out of the war fast? Then you can focus on France after that. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11718 Posts
On February 02 2015 06:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Ugh. France, Tunis and Aquileia are allied with each other, and Milan is allied with Russia, which means I can't go west anytime soon. I'm probably going to colonize all that gray area all the way to Algeria, and then blitzkrieg Tunis so France doesn't have enough time to beat the shit out of me. Either that or just keep going south until I see penguins. You should be able to destroy them, though. You are gigantic. Crush Tunis with 2 of your armies, send the rest north. Maybe you can destroy aquileia before france does anything, but don't get caught and wiped. Once you are done with Tunis, you have 150k man against france + whatever is left of aquileia. You could even spend some of your absurd amounts of money to hire at least one other army, maybe two (Are you at the force limit yet? If not, you should be. And if yes, you can afford to be a bit above it, but you might want to build some level 5+6 mil buildings). If you are scared of running out of manpower, hire an army of mercs. You might want to build a few more ships to make certain you have naval superiority in the mediteranean, though. It would really suck if you can't carry your troops around. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On February 02 2015 09:15 Simberto wrote: You should be able to destroy them, though. You are gigantic. Crush Tunis with 2 of your armies, send the rest north. Maybe you can destroy aquileia before france does anything, but don't get caught and wiped. Once you are done with Tunis, you have 150k man against france + whatever is left of aquileia. You could even spend some of your absurd amounts of money to hire at least one other army, maybe two (Are you at the force limit yet? If not, you should be. And if yes, you can afford to be a bit above it, but you might want to build some level 5+6 mil buildings). If you are scared of running out of manpower, hire an army of mercs. You might want to build a few more ships to make certain you have naval superiority in the mediteranean, though. It would really suck if you can't carry your troops around. I saved up to build the Suez Canal and that should be done in three years. In the meantime, I upgraded my navy (I obliterated the Hansa in a fight but lost a bunch of my older boats) and now have 64 transports for carrying across 2 of my stacks at a time. My current plan for the west is now to attack Tunis for just enough warscore to make them annul their alliance with France, and then attack them a second time ASAP. They have a few African allies but I've been cutting through those like hot butter. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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HiIamBrett
56 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/h30AxAc.png) 11th try is the charm apparently. Number 8 ended with me owning all of the Mamluks lands forming Jerusalem then having my alliance of Austria, Venice, Commonwealth, Ethiopia, and the papal states completely crushed by the turkish scum forcing me to release/surrender most of my land ultimately costing the game. After that I decided the best approach would be to cut the head off the snake this is what happens when you become papal controller enough times to keep a crusade going against the Ottomans managed to fight 4 crusades against them now shouldn't need a 5th  .Protestants won the holy war in the HRE so pretty sure europe is going to be problematic very soon Austria just converted and I think France might even convert. | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
On February 02 2015 03:52 HiIamBrett wrote: How did you PU the Commonwealth I've been under the impression they were immune to becoming junior partners because of the elective monarchy nonsense. I've never seen the AI change that form of government as far as I'm aware. they have an event chain in the 1600s which converts them to Absolue Monarchy. You can immediately throne claim and PU them right after. | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s3bOWDK.png) Silesia, Aq Qoyunlu, and Wurzburg are my vassals. Can't see much of it in the pic but most of Norway is controlled by Brazil. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U8jCg7I.jpg?1) Currently fighting round 2 of the Battle of Britain. Since the AI cannot into naval warfare and invasions, the war cannot be lost. However I reallied the French after they pussied out of the first war, the coalition collectively beat the French up, which created -34% warscore. Warscore does not gradually move back to 0% when nothing is occupied, since it's a "Show superiority" war. Will Denmark ever get a Call for Peace modifier, or do I have to take the initiative? This is a really stupid situation. I'm just chilling on my islands, colonising a bit, while they are supposedly "winning" a war versus me. Just took the Norwegian islands and sunk like 50 ships total, with a lot of men on board. Still quite a few dropships managed to land in Iceland, those men will stay there for the rest of the war in a cold vacation. Naval battles or sunken dropships full with troops don't count for the superiority wargoal. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
On February 02 2015 16:50 ZeroChrome wrote: Just finished my first EU4 game. Silesia, Aq Qoyunlu, and Wurzburg are my vassals. Can't see much of it in the pic but most of Norway is controlled by Brazil. This is the weirdest screenshot i ever saw... | ||
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Simberto
Germany11718 Posts
On February 02 2015 21:01 Bojas wrote: I've got a question about my Scotland game. Currently fighting round 2 of the Battle of Britain. Since the AI cannot into naval warfare and invasions, the war cannot be lost. However I reallied the French after they pussied out of the first war, the coalition collectively beat the French up, which created -34% warscore. Warscore does not gradually move back to 0% when nothing is occupied, since it's a "Show superiority" war. Will Denmark ever get a Call for Peace modifier, or do I have to take the initiative? This is a really stupid situation. I'm just chilling on my islands, colonising a bit, while they are supposedly "winning" a war versus me. Just took the Norwegian islands and sunk like 50 ships total, with a lot of men on board. Still quite a few dropships managed to land in Iceland, those men will stay there for the rest of the war in a cold vacation. Naval battles or sunken dropships full with troops don't count for the superiority wargoal. You could try invading Norway while blocking the land route via denmark. Depending on who is against you most of them are probably not gonna be able to do something about that. Or just ignore the whole situation and do other stuff until they want a white peace. The "length of war" effect on whether or not they want a peace should keep on ticking. | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On February 02 2015 22:05 Simberto wrote: You could try invading Norway while blocking the land route via denmark. Depending on who is against you most of them are probably not gonna be able to do something about that. Or just ignore the whole situation and do other stuff until they want a white peace. The "length of war" effect on whether or not they want a peace should keep on ticking. The length of war factor has been maxed out for a while. I'm hoping there is some mechanic out there that would reset the war if a stalemate continues long enough. Something like "call for peace". I already invaded the Norwegian islands and it gave me like 5% warscore total. I think I will have to muster up as much as I can, then block and occupy Copenhagen. But that shouldn't be neccesary. They have NOTHING. I have taken a couple of islands from them, their boats keep sinking which costs them money. Why does the AI continue this war? Seperate peaces should be possible at least, there is no way Denmark's allies wouldn't white peace with me if they could. Ridiculous coalition mechanic once again. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4741 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On February 02 2015 22:44 Silvanel wrote: Some patches ago after 5 years of stalemate You would get whitepeace proposition regardless of warscore. Dunno if its still there after all recent changes. I only get propositions worth ~25-35% warscore (something like release Irish minor and Wales), which we use as toilet paper. An absolute stalemate won't happen anyway, as fighting over worthless barely 1 base tax islands will continue, | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
I haven't had the issue myself but i have seen AI's in a "war deadlock" for over 50 years. It seems only to happen when an AI can't reach an Island due to the opponentblocking acces with a fleet. I've seen Hedjaz trying to 100% Nadj for over 50 years but it couldn't cause it wasn't able to reach bachrain due to Nadj having 5 Ships and Hedjaz wouldn't build any ships itself.... | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On February 02 2015 23:26 Velr wrote: I haven't had the issue myself but i have seen AI's in a "war deadlock" for over 50 years. It seems only to happen when an AI can't reach an Island due to the opponentblocking acces with a fleet. The issue is that AI Denmark thinks he has a large part of the war won, since the warscore decides that. The warscore is based on battles that aren't remotely relevevant 10 years later. Meanwhile the actual enemy is unscratched and has actually occupied provinces from the coalition. But Denmark thinks that doesn't matter. He has 34% warscore, and won't settle for anything less considering their alliance fields an army that dwarfs mine. In your case the defending AI will look at the 34% warscore and the strength of the alliances on paper, and happily settle with freeing Tyrone and Wales. Whereas in this case I have no reason to do that, continuation of the war hurts me less than it does them. The only sensible thing, is for warscore gained from winning battles to diminish over time, even with superiority based wargoals. It greatly annoys me that that doesn't happen. Edit: or white peaces being possible with coalition members. (so no peaces featuring anything else but a pure white peace, otherwise you could obviously exploit it) | ||
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