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TheManInBlack
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Nigeria266 Posts
December 12 2013 09:27 GMT
#1941
Is there a Total War with just the Greek/Macedonian/Persian nations? I want to be able to fight as Thebes, or Sparta or even Macedonia and take control of the greek region then eventually conquer Persia for instance.

What is the best Total War?
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
December 12 2013 10:47 GMT
#1942
On December 12 2013 18:27 TheManInBlack wrote:
Is there a Total War with just the Greek/Macedonian/Persian nations? I want to be able to fight as Thebes, or Sparta or even Macedonia and take control of the greek region then eventually conquer Persia for instance.

What is the best Total War?


I haven't played RTW2, but you might find what you are looking for in the modding community of RTW1. You can start here
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
December 12 2013 12:43 GMT
#1943
On December 12 2013 18:27 TheManInBlack wrote:
Is there a Total War with just the Greek/Macedonian/Persian nations? I want to be able to fight as Thebes, or Sparta or even Macedonia and take control of the greek region then eventually conquer Persia for instance.

What is the best Total War?


If you want to play a game that's perfect as it is, without mods, go for Medieval 1 Total War. I myself have not been able to run that on modern windows though.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 00:11:49
December 13 2013 00:11 GMT
#1944
On December 12 2013 18:27 TheManInBlack wrote:
Is there a Total War with just the Greek/Macedonian/Persian nations? I want to be able to fight as Thebes, or Sparta or even Macedonia and take control of the greek region then eventually conquer Persia for instance.

What is the best Total War?


Shogun 2 is my favorite for Vanilla experience or Vanilla aesthetics/balance mod.

It's heavily criticized for it's narrow scope (every clan using the same units and the map being only Japan) but in my opinion it's by far my favorite in terms of quality (gameplay, visuals, UI, atmosphere, polishing).

Even if it's my favorite, it still has issues though (especially naval battles and AI).

I thought Rome 2 was going to be mostly Shogun 2 with different models and a bigger scope and then just try to improve some elements. What a disappointment. Been a while I haven't tried Rome 2 again though, maybe patches help.

Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 13 2013 01:07 GMT
#1945
Shogun 2 was optimized like no other TW. Dislike the aesthetics and/or accuracy, but it ran darn well on almost any computer. Can't believe they botched that aspect in Rome II entirely.
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Shigure
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States215 Posts
December 13 2013 20:22 GMT
#1946
I think its because Shogun 2 was a smaller scope vs looking at something like RTW2 which is a way bigger map, not only that a ton of different models.
I think they just did too much at once but as with most games from this series the developers will keep patching it and the modding community will make this game way better.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 13 2013 21:40 GMT
#1947
So with the Steam sale coming up next week I was looking into buying RTW2 as I loved the first.

I heard it was a bug-riddled mess at launch, thats why I didnt get it at first, so is the game "fixed" or is it still broken?
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
December 13 2013 22:04 GMT
#1948
On December 14 2013 06:40 NovaMB wrote:
So with the Steam sale coming up next week I was looking into buying RTW2 as I loved the first.

I heard it was a bug-riddled mess at launch, thats why I didnt get it at first, so is the game "fixed" or is it still broken?

It's much better than at launch, but it's not the game that many of the more fanatic fans wanted it to be.
I think it's a good game, it can be entertaining for quite some time if you don't play to deeply. And always play with Radious Mods enabled, you should never try vanilla. I'd give it around 100 fun hours before the flaws become to obvious (and that's likely not going to be enough to finish your first campaign)
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 22:15:52
December 13 2013 22:12 GMT
#1949
100 hours would be a great amount of time to get out of this. The last TW games have disappointed me (mostly Napoleon, Empire was a lot of fun for me).
I guess I'll check some gameplay videos first, thanks for the response. (just realised its 55€ on steam, if the sale isnt by like 80% it wont fit in my budged anyways, so I might get RTW1+Expansion again, since I lost my disc >_>)
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
December 13 2013 22:13 GMT
#1950
On December 12 2013 18:27 TheManInBlack wrote:
Is there a Total War with just the Greek/Macedonian/Persian nations? I want to be able to fight as Thebes, or Sparta or even Macedonia and take control of the greek region then eventually conquer Persia for instance.

What is the best Total War?

if you want a slow game and are interested in historical accuracy, RTW - Europa Barbarorum

if you like a faster game I suggest M2TW - Stainless Steel
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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
December 13 2013 22:24 GMT
#1951
So I'm willing to try this one again for real. Is vanilla suffitiently enjoyable or are there "must have" mods according to you guys ?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21685 Posts
December 13 2013 22:33 GMT
#1952
On December 14 2013 07:24 rezoacken wrote:
So I'm willing to try this one again for real. Is vanilla sufficiently enjoyable or are there "must have" mods according to you guys ?

vanilla is fine. People like to make a fuss but the game is still pretty good on its own legs.
Id play vanilla and only mod if there are things you truely cannot stand.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 14 2013 00:28 GMT
#1953
I admit I haven't touched it for some time. That's literally how frustrated I've been with it. I'll get on and test it out and report back by the end of Sunday, with specific regards to the game's functionality. Fans are still complaining to CA's daily updates and news.
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qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
December 14 2013 00:44 GMT
#1954
i've not been playing for some time either, since i was kinda busy or playing other games, i found the campaigns massively enjoyable until your realm reaches a certain size. it gets rather daft. also the tech trees are a bit small lategame wise for some factions. for example pontus have their best swordsmen and second best hoplites after about 5 turns, and then no interesting infantry until the highest tier with bronze shield pikemen. lategame is not equally rewarding with all factions.
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URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
December 14 2013 00:56 GMT
#1955
The only mod that I have used was to get rid of agents. They get pretty annoying after about 100 turns or so.
NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
December 15 2013 16:31 GMT
#1956
If anyone is interested, the 3rd place and finals of the Rome 2 Christmas Tournament are coming up in few minutes on ReadyUpTV on Twitch.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 18 2013 22:57 GMT
#1957
So they just released a campaign pack (Caesar in Gaul) for ~15€. Can't believe that they'd release such major pay2play download so short after release. I feel pretty ripped off by this game, I can't stand so many DLCs that should've been part of the game right from the get go plus I still remember the many bugs at release. Will probably have been the last Total War game I play.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 20 2013 17:15 GMT
#1958
what are your experiences with the siege AI patch? is it time for me to start playing again?? or should I continue to wait???
KTY
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 00:24:37
December 21 2013 00:24 GMT
#1959
From the last time I played the game (in spetember) I felt the game has improved a lot. Minor settlement and open battles felt okay this afternoon. However the siege battle at Rome (walls) I played was still terrible, AI sent 2 units with Ladder which I killed and then proceded to turn in circles at their starting position. I just waited the timer to run off.

Mind you, this is only one siege so far for me but man that was disapointing.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#1960
On December 21 2013 09:24 rezoacken wrote:
From the last time I played the game (in spetember) I felt the game has improved a lot. Minor settlement and open battles felt okay this afternoon. However the siege battle at Rome (walls) I played was still terrible, AI sent 2 units with Ladder which I killed and then proceded to turn in circles at their starting position. I just waited the timer to run off.

Mind you, this is only one siege so far for me but man that was disapointing.


Reminds me of Rome 1 AI, "plants units on wall, sees player running units to other wall, keeps unit in original position". Or my personal favorite "player has captured all archer towers, proceed to run unit up and down walls losing 1/3-1/2 to newly captured archer towers"

I think Im just gonna stick with Rome 1, which is a shame, I was very happy to see the way Shogun 2 really improved on Shogun 1(lol archers being useless in Shogun 1 after having no ammo, even though its more a generic total war update rather then specifically the shogun flavor). But I really don't like the way this one is turning out to be. Damn shame, I usually pay no attention to pre-release info because its normally cut/changed/not at all how they portray it.I did pay attention to this and got my hopes up, but after seeing the direction they're going with the "enhancements" Ill just stick to Shogun 2/Rome 1.

To the other poster who asked which one was best:
IMO!!!
Rome 1/Shogun 2 are tied as my favorite Total War games. Rome 1 for its huge conquerable map/unit visuals depending on the country the soldiers were from and Shogun 2 for the modern visuals like the motion capture they used for the unit attacks/UI fixes & updates.
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